<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1 Gaby Giner<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Elvis. </div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 8, 2020, at 22:49, Gaby Giner <<a href="mailto:gabyginernetwork@gmail.com" class="">gabyginernetwork@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Dear community,<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">I agree with Lucilla but only wish to add 1 point.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I think everyone has overlooked one huge matter.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">It is true that by section 3.5(1) of the CPM “A person who disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s) shall discuss the matter with the PDWG Chair(s) or with the PDWG”. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">However, I wish to remind everyone that by section 3.5(2) of the CPM, “The appeal must be submitted within two weeks of the public knowledge of the decision”. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Applying this into the current facts, the Chair has publicly announced its decision on 17th September 2020 through the online PPM, whereas, the disagreement/appeal is only made on 2nd October 2020 onward, which is factually beyond the 14 days period to appeal. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Therefore, the disagreements/appeal made in this email thread/mailing list must be deemed invalid and be disregarded.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Thanks,</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Gaby</div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 9:05 PM lucilla fornaro, <<a href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com" class="">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Sami, dear all,</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Most of the arguments supporting the policy were not mere "opinions". </div><div dir="ltr" class="">A quick reminder, the policy reached a rough consensus during the PPM and went to the last call for some editorial changes. The authors, Taiwo and Anthony, proved to be remarkably active to manage minor issues and solicitudes from the community. The resource transfer policy aims to build a stable and efficient resources management system for the Afrinic service region.</div><div dir="ltr" class="">The overall discussion has been full of controversies undermining the work of the co-chairs, an unfair behavior in my opinion. Also, the arguments against the policy have been strongly taken apart. </div><div dir="ltr" class="">We have been debating this policy for weeks, it is now time to move it to the board for ratification. </div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Lucilla </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno gio 8 ott 2020 alle ore 21:09 Sami Ait Ali Oulahcen via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> ha scritto:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br class="">
<br class="">
I can't see how the "Resource Transfer Policy" could have reached consensus.<br class="">
I think the co-chairs' prerogative is to declare consensus on policies, <br class="">
not general opinions. And "we need an inter-RIR transfer policy" is a <br class="">
general opinion, not a policy.<br class="">
The policy in question still had objections (non-editorial) before last <br class="">
call. And it received significant changes during the last call period <br class="">
(it is not what last call is meant for).<br class="">
<br class="">
Not that I have any interest in the policy itself being ratified or not. <br class="">
It shouldn't be done this way.<br class="">
<br class="">
Just my 2c.<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Sami<br class="">
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On 10/8/20 12:30 AM, Moses Serugo wrote:<br class="">
> Hello PDWG members,<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Following the last online PPM held on 16^th -17^th September 2020. Last <br class="">
> call was announced on 21^st September 2020 for the following policy <br class="">
> proposals.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> * Board Prerogatives on the PDP<br class="">
> * Resource Transfer Policy<br class="">
> <br class="">
> This is to further announce that the last call period for the above <br class="">
> proposals has ended, based on feedback received from the community and <br class="">
> the editorial changes made by authors to address community concerns, the <br class="">
> consensus decision from AFRINIC32 is still maintained.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Co-Chairs will now send a report to the Board recommending ratification <br class="">
> of the two above proposals in line with CPM 3.0.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Regards,<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Co-Chairs<br class="">
> <br class="">
> <br class="">
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