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    <p>It seems that you are more interested in having this policy
      passed at any cost than in putting consistent arguments in line
      with the PDP. I prefer to discuss with arguments not with fans.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/10/2020 11:14, Ibeanusi Elvis
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      Dear Fernando, 
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      <div class="">There is no confusion here, Section 3.5.1 of the CPM
        indeed said “disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s)”
         and the actions bound to taken by the chairs is to make
        declarations on behalf of the Board and the community.
        Similarly, the decision of course can be appealed but according
        to the CPM there is a time period to submit the appeal (Check
        Section 3.5.2 of the CPM). Nonetheless, you have not answered my
        pervious questions. Here is another one, Why should the Chairs
        “have changed their decision?”. Remember, they made the decision
        on behalf of the Board and the AFRINIC Community. Thanks. </div>
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      <div class="">ELVIS. </div>
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            <div class="">On Oct 8, 2020, at 23:03, Fernando Frediani
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                <p class="">Gaby please read the PDP correctly and do
                  not confuse people.<br class="">
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                <p class="">The section 3.5.1 of the CPM says "disagrees
                  with the actions taken by the Chair(s)" not just with
                  declarations made during the PPM. The Chairs could
                  have changed their decision meanwhile but
                  unfortunately they haven't done. They have just
                  decided to keep it and it is "a decision" which by the
                  CPM bound to appeal.<br class="">
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                <p class="">Fernando<br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/10/2020 10:49, Gaby
                  Giner wrote:<br class="">
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                  <div dir="auto" class="">Dear community,
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                      <div dir="auto" class="">I agree with Lucilla but
                        only wish to add 1 point.</div>
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                      <div dir="auto" class="">I think everyone has
                        overlooked one huge matter.</div>
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                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto" class="">It is true that by
                        section 3.5(1) of the CPM “A person who
                        disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s)
                        shall discuss the matter with the PDWG Chair(s)
                        or with the PDWG”. </div>
                      <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto" class="">However, I wish to remind
                        everyone that by section 3.5(2) of the CPM, “The
                        appeal must be submitted within two weeks of the
                        public knowledge of the decision”. </div>
                      <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
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                      <div dir="auto" class="">Applying this into the
                        current facts, the Chair has publicly announced
                        its decision on 17th September 2020 through the
                        online PPM, whereas, the disagreement/appeal is
                        only made on 2nd October 2020 onward, which is
                        factually beyond the 14 days period to appeal. </div>
                      <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
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                      <div dir="auto" class="">Therefore, the
                        disagreements/appeal made in this email
                        thread/mailing list must be deemed invalid and
                        be disregarded.</div>
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                      <div dir="auto" class="">Thanks,</div>
                      <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
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                      <div dir="auto" class="">Gaby</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 8,
                      2020, 9:05 PM lucilla fornaro, <<a
                        href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
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                      wrote:<br class="">
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Sami, dear all,</div>
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="">Most of the
                              arguments supporting the policy were not
                              mere "opinions". </div>
                            <div dir="ltr" class="">A quick reminder,
                              the policy reached a rough consensus
                              during the PPM and went to the last call
                              for some editorial changes. The authors,
                              Taiwo and Anthony, proved to be remarkably
                              active to manage minor issues and
                              solicitudes from the community. The
                              resource transfer policy aims to build a
                              stable and efficient resources management
                              system for the Afrinic service region.</div>
                            <div dir="ltr" class="">The overall
                              discussion has been full of controversies
                              undermining the work of the co-chairs, an
                              unfair behavior in my opinion.  Also, the
                              arguments against the policy have been
                              strongly taken apart. </div>
                            <div dir="ltr" class="">We have been
                              debating this policy for weeks, it is now
                              time to move it to the board for
                              ratification. </div>
                            <div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">
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                            <div class="">regards,</div>
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                            <div class="">Lucilla </div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno gio
                          8 ott 2020 alle ore 21:09 Sami Ait Ali
                          Oulahcen via RPD <<a
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                          ha scritto:<br class="">
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br
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                          I can't see how the "Resource Transfer Policy"
                          could have reached consensus.<br class="">
                          I think the co-chairs' prerogative is to
                          declare consensus on policies, <br class="">
                          not general opinions. And "we need an
                          inter-RIR transfer policy" is a <br class="">
                          general opinion, not a policy.<br class="">
                          The policy in question still had objections
                          (non-editorial) before last <br class="">
                          call. And it received significant changes
                          during the last call period <br class="">
                          (it is not what last call is meant for).<br
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                          Not that I have any interest in the policy
                          itself being ratified or not. <br class="">
                          It shouldn't be done this way.<br class="">
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                          Just my 2c.<br class="">
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                          Regards,<br class="">
                          Sami<br class="">
                          <br class="">
                          On 10/8/20 12:30 AM, Moses Serugo wrote:<br
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                          > Hello PDWG members,<br class="">
                          > <br class="">
                          > Following the last online PPM held on
                          16^th -17^th September 2020. Last <br
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                          > call was announced on 21^st September
                          2020 for the following policy <br class="">
                          > proposals.<br class="">
                          > <br class="">
                          >   * Board Prerogatives on the PDP<br
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                          >   * Resource Transfer Policy<br class="">
                          > <br class="">
                          > This is to further announce that the
                           last call period for the above <br class="">
                          > proposals has ended, based on feedback
                          received from the community and <br class="">
                          > the editorial changes made by authors to
                          address community concerns, the <br class="">
                          > consensus decision from AFRINIC32 is
                          still maintained.<br class="">
                          > <br class="">
                          > Co-Chairs will now send a report to the
                          Board recommending ratification <br class="">
                          > of the two above proposals in line with
                          CPM 3.0.<br class="">
                          > <br class="">
                          > Regards,<br class="">
                          > <br class="">
                          > Co-Chairs<br class="">
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