<div dir="auto"><div>Dear Noah, Gregoire, and Jordi, <div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">The fact that you do not like the objections to this proposal does not mean that they are not valid. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There are still a number of matters that are unclear such as what would happen to members who refuse to comply; issues with GDPR; the definition of abuse; and the enforcement of this policy by AFRINIC. These are all VALID concerns, and if you disagree - it is a matter of your opinion and NOT their legitimacy. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I also think that mandatory abuse-c ought to be implemented, but these objections must be addressed first. And until they are - there is no rough consensus, and therefore the policy has no place in the last call. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ekaterina </div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 30 Sep 2020, 15:21 Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:20 AM Madhvi Gokool <<a href="mailto:madhvi@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madhvi@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Dear Frank/Community members</p>
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<p>a) In the Impact Assessment, staff assumed that the policy will
not impact the legacy resources in the AFRINIC whois database and
requested the authors to confirm that this is so. AFRINIC staff
needs to keep this in consideration at the time of
implementation(myafrinic and whois business rules) - abuse-c
mandatory for non-legacy resources. Staff were therefore satisfied
with this confirmation and had not indicated otherwise to the
co-chairs and community in the session.<br>
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<p>b) "AFRINIC is bound by the Mauritian Data Protection Act 2017
(inspired by GDPR). For more information on AFRINIC's Privacy
Policy, click on the following link - <font color="#000000"><a href="https://www.afrinic.net/privacy" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/privacy</a>.
Thus, implementation of the abuse-c will not impact negatively
on AFRINIC's data protection obligations."</font></p>
<p>c) The only policy that affects the legacy resource holders is
documented in Section 5.7 of the CPM - and it regards transfers
of legacy resources. Legacy Holders are not bound by any other
resource policies. <br>
</p>
<p>Staff therefore will confirm with the authors that their policies
do not affect legacy resources , especially when implementation
will be done on the whois database. This is to ensure that the
implementation does not negatively impact how the legacy resource
holders manage their resources on the whois database. <br>
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<p>d) In the Policy Implementation Experience Report during
AFRINIC-32/AIS'20 , staff have pointed out that Section 8 of the
CPM does not enforce a mandatory abuse contact . They also
mentioned that they are having to respond to an increase in
complaints regarding missing abuse contacts in the number
resources in the AFRINIC whois database and that operators have
warned that they will filter the resources with no abuse
contacts. Staff are therefore doing the work for the members , as
they are bound to respond to any queries that are logged with the
AFRINIC service desk. This situation is not scalable in the long
term & AFRINIC invites the community to also ponder on this
feedback.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Madhvi thanks for all the clarifications beyond the staff assessment.</div><div><br></div><div>Clearly this proposal had no valid objections, yet it was tossed back to the list based on invalid definitions arguments as though we are all not internet folk to understand what <b>abuse-c</b> really means.</div><div><br></div><div>Can we move forward to the last call now.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Noah</div></div></div>
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