<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Chers co-chairs,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Sans être virulents à votre égard j'ai juste deux remarques à faire d'abord:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">1. L'aspect multilinguiste devrait être respecté dans la prise en compte de vos décisions, et je n'en ai pas le sentiment, ce qui implique que pour accompagner solidement vos conclusions et vos inférences, un tableau transparent regroupant sommairement les réactions de chaque membre politique après politique serait le bienvenu car il permettrait à tout le monde d'avoir une vue claire et optimale de vos décisions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Étant un académique de carrière, je constate que sur 10 politiques seulement 2 sont adoptées ou en voie de l'être ce qui laisse sous-entendre que les 8 autres politiques, qui pourtant résultent de grands efforts, donnent un sentiment d'échec à leurs auteurs. Pourriez-vous écouter un peu plus leurs auteurs?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Je reconnais par exemple que Jordi a longuement interagis et échangé avec plusieurs d'entre nous sa proposition mériterait d'évoluer.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">2. Lorsqu'une remarque techniquement et valablement soutenue vous est adressée pourriez-vous aussi donner des explications proportionnellement longues? Vos réponses courtes et laconiques laissent un sentiment de manque de considération de ce qui vous est adressé par les membres. Sinon vous risquez d'inspirer à leur tour les membres du PDWG que nous sommes à concevoir des politiques qui limitent votre propre rôle.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">La note positive dans tout ça est que les 2 politiques à savoir les "Les prérogatives du conseil" et "Politique de transfert des ressources" au vu des longues discussions pendant des mois ont quand même fait du chemin. Je note seulement que nous devons rester alerte pour
"Les prérogatives du conseil" afin de ne pas affaiblir non plus le conseil qui devrait demeurer un organe de prise des décisions, pour plus d'efficience et d'efficacité dans le fonctionnement de la communauté.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">J'en félicite les auteurs, surtout Taiwo avec qui j'ai eu l'opportunité d'échanger lors de l'avant-dernier sommet en Angola.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Pour finir chers co-chairs efforcez-vous d'être multilingues pour nous écrire en Français comme nous aussi on vous écrit parfois en Anglais.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Cordialement,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Blaise.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div> <font face="times new roman, serif" size="2"> <font color="#0000ff">Blaise FYAMA</font></font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Msc, PhD.</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Professeur Associé</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Secrétaire Général Académique Honoraire/UL</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Doyen de la Faculté des Sciences Informatiques/UPL</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Doyen a.i de la Faculté Polytechnique/UPL</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Chef de Département Génie Electrique/ESI-UNILU</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Chef de Service Informatique/Polytech-UNILU</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Consultant Informatique BIT/PAEJK</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff" face="times new roman, serif">Membre de International Research Conference IRC/WASET</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Tel: +243995579515</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Numéro O.N.I.CIV: 00460</font></div><div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="times new roman, serif" color="#0000ff">MSc, PhD.<span></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="times new roman, serif" color="#0000ff">Associate Professor</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:"times new roman",serif">Honorary Academic Secretary General / UL</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="times new roman, serif" color="#0000ff">Phone: +243995579515<span></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="times new roman, serif" color="#0000ff">O.N.I.CIV number: 00460<br></font><font face="Bookman Old Style, serif"><span></span></font></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 21 sept. 2020 à 02:06, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Dear PDWG Members,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> Please find below a summary for each of the proposal discussed during the just concluded online policy meeting of AFRINIC 32 </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">1.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Simple PDP Update </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">This policy defines consensus. It also
proposes that a policy discussed at the PPM does not need to come back for
another PPM for the Co-chairs to arrive at a decision. This can help in
streamlining the work during the PPM and encourages people to use the mailing
list. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">There were lots of irrelevant objections on
the mailing list such as someone registering many emails. We believe that this
does not matter because rough consensus is not about numbers but quality
objections.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">However, there is strong opposition to this policy based on the
following: </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Oppose the policy because of
the way the consensus is reached. This proposal proposes that the consensus be
reached through a balance of the mailing list/forum and not at the PPM. This
endangers fair consensus and hijacks the policymaking process. Based on
experience, it is during the PPM that most community members focus on policies.
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Issues around how the chairs
should drop proposals.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">c.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Trust in the mailing list: Some
strongly believe that anonymous contribution should be allowed while some
believes it should not.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">d.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Issues around having more than
1 PPM per year and Online PPM because of volunteer burnout. We are all
volunteers and it’s a night job for us. More PPMs mean more time to volunteer
and more chances for burnouts </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">e.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Some members of the Community
thinks only burning or polarizing issues should be brought to the PPM.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: No Consensus</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">2.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">PDP Working Group </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">This proposal aims at
allowing most of the decisions including chair elections to be determined via
consensus. This can be reasonable when
the community has the same goal. However, there were a number of objections to
it. These are:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Entrusting the WG to make their
decisions by consensus and the appointment of their co-chairs by consensus do
not make sense and is only utopic.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">People are not policy
proposals, and thus choosing by consensus is splitting hairs with the election
process we already have. Save the consensus for the proposals, and the election
for people.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">c.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Consensus may even take months,
and this can’t fly when we want to put people in the vacant roles.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">d.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Co-chairs should not have a
hand in the consensus, but only sit back and let the community decide for
themselves. Additionally, the consensus process is not feasible with a
deadline.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">e.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Focus on polishing the current
electoral process instead of complicating other untested forms of “election”.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">f.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">The current status quo’s
election should be the only option in choosing for the roles, and not through
less transparent means.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">g.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Board would be interfering too
much on issues that deal with PDP</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: No Consensus</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">3.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Election Process </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">This proposal aims at introducing an online
voting system for the Co-Chairs election. The following are the opposition to
this proposal. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">This policy reduces
participation. Equal representation is violated because the board has
unprecedented power. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">There is also not enough
information on the logistics of the vote (e-voting).</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">c.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">There is a contradiction <strike>on </strike>when the term ends during the meeting. “The term ends during the first PPM
corresponding to the end of the term for which they were appointed” is not
clear enough, and “A term may begin or end no sooner than the first day of the
PPM and no later than the last day of the PPM as determined by mutual agreement
of the current Chair and the new Chair” contradicts each other.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">d.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Gender restriction on 3.3.1.3 ,
some community members argue it is impractical and maybe even unfair if we
force both chairs to have different genders.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">e.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Issues around which voter's register should be adopted </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: No Consensus</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">4.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Board Prerogatives </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">This proposal aims at clarifying how the
board and the PDWG works. However, there
were a few oppositions to this proposal except for a specific section. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">It seems like a piecemeal approach
to dealing with issues. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Opposition to the section below</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i><span lang="EN-PH">“As an exception of the preceding
paragraph, in the absence of elections processes for aspects related to the PDP
(co-chairs, appeal committee), those aspects will be still handled by the board
in consultation with the community. However, this is also a temporary measure
and also specific draft policy proposals should be introduced for that</span></i><span lang="EN-PH">”. The authors agreed to remove the above section hence</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: Consensus provided the
above section is removed </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">5.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Policy Compliance Dashboard</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">The policy proposal seeks to provide a
framework or a policy compliance dashboard be developed by AFRINIC and
incorporated in myAFRINIC (and future member’s communication platforms). It will allow a periodic review of the policy
compliance status of each member. It will also enable members to receive
automated notifications for any issue. Staff will receive repeated warnings of
lack of compliance or severe violations enshrined in the CPM. However, there
are several oppositions to this proposal, such as:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">This policy seems to be redundant
of the status quo as violations are already checked and processed by the human
staff.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">There is already an existing
system of guidelines on keeping track of the violations of members.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">c.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">The policy is not binding and
does not enforce members actually to follow the rules and not violate policies.
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">d.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Ignorance could be a convenient
excuse for violations because one could claim that they never got notified
about their violations.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">e.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">There is no comprehensive
system on how the board should take proper actions once members violate policies,
nor does it give guidelines based on the severity of the violations.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">f.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">This policy takes away
resources that could be used for more beneficial pursuits to AFRINIC for
something existing in the system.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">g.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">It an administrative process, and this should be left to staff</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: NO rough Consensus</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">6.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Abuse Contact Update </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">The proposal makes it mandatory for AFRINIC
to include in each resource registration, a contact where network abuse from
users of those resources will be reported.
The proposal whois DB attribute (abuse-c) to be used to publish abuse
public contact information. There’s also a process to ensure that the recipient
must receive abuse report and that contacts are validated by AFRINIC
regularly. However, there some opposition to the proposal there are:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Staff analysis on how it affects
legacy holder not conclusive (not sure
why this should affect legacy holders) </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">The proposal doesn’t state what
will be the consequences of one member fails to comply. Why are we creating the
abuse contact when there is no consequence for not providing the abuse contact </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">c.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Abuse contact email and issues
with GDPR concerning the whois database</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">d.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">No proper definition of the
term Abuse</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">e.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">To force members to reply to their
abuse email is not in the scope of AFRINIC.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: No rough consensus </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">7.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and
Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">The proposal instructs AFRINIC to create
ROAs for all unallocated and unassigned address space under its control. This
will enable networks performing RPKI-based BGP Origin Validation to easily
reject all the bogon announcements covering resources managed by AFRINIC.
However, there are many oppositions such as: </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Allowing resource holders to
create AS0/ ROA will lead to an increase of even more invalid prefixes in the
routing table.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Revocation time of AS0 state,
and the time for new allocation doesn’t match. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">c.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Other RIRs don’t have a similar the policy therefore, it can not be effective</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">d.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">This will become a uniform
policy if it is not globally implemented, which causes additional stress. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">e.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Validity period: if members decide to implement it, is it not
better to recover the space if it is kept unused for too long?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">f.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">How do we revoke the ROA? How long
does it take to revoke it (chain/ refreshing )?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">g.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">What happens if AFRINIC
accidentally issues a ROA for an address in error?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">h.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">It also might affect the
neighbours and involves monitoring of unallocated spaces.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">i.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Possibility of it being used
against a member who is yet to pay dues.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Suggestions were made to improve the policy
such as </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 135pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a)<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">The automatic creation of AS0
ROAs should be limited to space that has never been allocated by an RIR or part
of a legacy allocation.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 135pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b)<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">AFRINIC should require the
explicit consent of the previous holder to issue AS0 ROAs in respect of
re-claimed, returned, etc, space.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 135pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">c)<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Any ROAs issued under this policy should be issued and published in a way that makes it operationally easy
for a relying party to ignore them (probably by issuing under a separate TA).</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 135pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">d)<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">The proposal should include the
clause “as used in APNIC as to dues not paid on time.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: No consensus</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">8.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource
Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">The proposal puts in place a mechanism to
transfer IPv4 and (some ASN) resources between AFRINIC and other RIRs and between
AFRINIC members/entities. Some conditions are attached to the source and recipient
based on need and disclosure made. The inter-RIR transfers will be suspended if
the number of outgoing IPv4 addresses exceeds the incoming ones for six consecutive
months. However, there are oppositions to it</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">ASN Transfer is not necessary</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Issue of board inferring: no
board in all of the five RIRs have ever been involved in deciding a transfer or
allocating IP address. It is not the board's responsibility.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">c.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Suspending clause with no
reinstalling clause. This mainly makes the
policy potentially invalid. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: No consensus.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">9.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">AFRINIC Number Resource
Transfer</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Not realistic for one-way inter
RIR resource transfer as it has to be reciprocal. One way would never happen as
only global resources can come in and go out </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">It would be difficult for the recipient
to follow the rules of AFRINIC if they are not in the African region.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">c.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">No need for ASN transfer. If
one is moving regions and doesn't have an ASN in the new region, it can request
and receive from the local RIRs</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">d.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Additional attributes create
none-operational complexity in the whois database.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: No consensus.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">10.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Resource Transfer Policy</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">This proposal aims to introduce Inter RIR
transfer. However, it has the following opposition </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Issues with Legacy holder
transfer is potentially considered none-reciprocal by ARIN</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 1.25in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">Potential abuse of AFRINIC free
pool without the time limit of receiving an allocation from AFRINIC.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: The proposal is the least
contested of all the 3 competing proposals. However because of the community’s
desire and clear expression for the need
for an Inter RIR transfer, we, the Co-chairs, believe that in the interest of
the community we should focus on a proposal rather than several similar ones.
This desire was clearly expressed at the AFRINIC 31 meeting in Angola.
Therefore, We suggest that the authors of this proposal make the following
amendments: </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH" style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">5.7.3.2 Source entities are not eligible to receive
further IPv4 allocations or assignments from AFRINIC for 12 months period after
the transfer.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH" style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span lang="EN-PH">5.7.4.3. Transferred legacy
resources will still be regarded as legacy resources.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Chairs Decision: Provided that the above are
amended, the decisions is Rough Consensus is achieved </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Based on the above, The updated version of the
follow proposal which achieved rough consensus would be posted on the PDWG
website </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-PH">1.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-PH">Board Prerogatives </span></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-PH">2.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-PH">Resource Transfer Policy</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">Therefore, these two policies are now on
last call. </span></p></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><br>Co-Chair </div><div style="font-size:small">PDWG</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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