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    <p>Hi Lamiaa,</p>
    <p>Thank you for the clarification.</p>
    <p>Kind Regards,<br>
      Jaco<br>
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    <p>On 2020/09/23 12:38, Lamiaa Chnayti wrote:<br>
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              face="arial, sans-serif">Hello Jaco, <br>
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              Let me explain again in a simpler form.<br>
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              1. I do agree we should have abuse-c in whois. <br>
              2. I even agree to make it mandatory .  <br>
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              What I do not agree with is to make abuse-c any different
              from other mandatory
              contact.<br>
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              Here is policy text for admin-c and tech-c:<br>
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              <i style="">7.5.1 Registering contact persons<br>
                Administrative and technical contact persons must be
                registered for each ASN
                assigned. The registered administrative contact
                ('admin-c') is the person
                responsible for the ASN and should generally be someone
                who is physically
                located at the site of the AS.<br>
                The technical contact ('tech-c') need not be physically
                located at the site of
                the AS but must be a person who is responsible for the
                day-to-day operation of
                that AS.<br>
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              I suggest this policy should remove the entire 8.X
              section, and instead, just have
              one line at 7.5.1, (adding one sentence below tech-c) <b
                style="">“The abuse
                contact("abuse-c") should be a person who can handle
                abuse issues on
                the network, and it is for  network to
                communicate each other on abuse issues.”</b> Just like
              how we treat other
              mandatory contact attribute in the whois, if someone
              creates an object without
              it, the system returns to error, just like admin-c or
              tech-c.<br>
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              And problem solved, what you are concerned with have been
              addressed at 100%.
              And on a side note, if a network is a responsible network,
              I believe they all
              already have an abuse contact there, since it was a
              function of whois many
              versions ago, and for the ones who never care for abuse
              (mostly large
              residential telecoms), I doubt what we do here would
              matter much in the real
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            <p>Hi Lamiaa,</p>
            On 2020/09/22 10:32, Lamiaa Chnayti wrote:<br>
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                                      lang="EN-US">Of course I can
                                      choose NOT TO REPLY, this is my
                                      network, and I decide how I want
                                      to run it. Everyday I ignore tons
                                      of </span><span lang="EN-US">e-mails</span><span
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                                      folder called spam, and it is
                                      entirely up to me to decide IN MY
                                      NETWORK what I consider spam. I
                                      think you fundamentally mix up the
                                      concept of "management of IP
                                      address registration" with
                                      "management of network". AFRINIC
                                      only has a mandate to manage
                                      registration of IP numbers, it
                                      does not have the </span></font></p>
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            <p>No.  I suspect Jordi knows a fair amount of the
              difference.  More so than most.<br>
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                                      to manage networks. And once you
                                      get that, you will also understand
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            <p>Nobody is asking Afrinic to manage any networks.  We're
              asking them to help those of that want to be good netizens
              to enable us to do that, by ensuring that contact can be
              made with other networks for the purposes of resolving
              abuse related problems.  My experience says that usually
              these disputes are between customers of ISPs but they
              insist that the ISPs should do something about it.  So
              short of me dropping your entire set of prefixes, I'd
              prefer to be able to make contact with you in order to
              look for a resolution.  Personally, I'm not worried about
              screaming insults and the like, those or nitty gritty
              issues people should sort out themselves, but what happens
              if a customer of yours is actively trying to hack on of
              mine?  Or the other way around?  Would you prefer we all
              just drop each other's routes and never actually resolve
              anything?<br>
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                                      hijacking as policy violation,
                                      your over-intrusive management
                                      clause in abuse-c get pushed back
                                      very hard in RIPE. Hands off my
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            <p>I am sorry, in my opinion you're out of line here, that
              is bordering on a personal attack on Jordi, we're all
              trying to make this Internet a better place.  As is
              Jordi.  Whilst I do not agree with him on everything, what
              is it to you have a single email address that people can
              mail you on?  Honestly, nobody said you're not allowed to
              filter spam on that.  Again, you choose what is spam and
              not.  We're asking you to be responsible.  Basically by
              saying you refuse to publish an abuse contact you're
              effectively being an elitist stating that your network is
              so perfect that there is no reason anyone would ever need
              to contact you in an attempt to resolve a (probably)
              legitimate issue.<br>
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            <p>My response to that would be:  So why should I route your
              traffic?  Why shouldn't I just outright reject all your
              prefixes?<br>
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            <p>By enabling networks to contact each other via an abuse
              contact it enables all of us to communicate better,
              towards sorting out real issues.  If you don't want to be
              part of the solution, my personal opinion is that you
              should not form part of the internet.  My opinion is that
              by making abuse related contact more reliable we're
              improving the overall networking landscape.  You're still
              welcome to ignore contact you don't consider legitimate. 
              But know that that leaves us few options if you do ignore
              a legitimate issues.<br>
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                                      done correct registration of their
                                      numbers, and they are done with
                                      AFRINIC from this point on. How
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            <p>No one is asking for confidential data.  We're asking for
              a contact where we can make contact with you in a case
              where of my customers and one of yours have issues with
              each other, in order to get problems / issues / disputes /
              whatever resolved amicably instead of via lawyers, so by
              all means, if you prefer me first suing Afrinic for your
              contact details, and then suing you for damages + costs
              ... guess we can go that route too.</p>
            <p>Alternatively I can file abuse complaints against you
              with your transit providers and if they agree with me,
              it's not just one or two of your customers that's going to
              face difficulty, it's going to be all of them.</p>
            <p>Either way, with an attitude like yours I'm fairly
              certain not many people will think twice about dropping
              your prefixes.<br>
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                                      for the future of this region, we
                                      are not making policies for
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                                      policies impacting billions of
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                                      needs to be abundantly clear on
                                      what we can do and what is not for
                                      us to decide. Yes, you are right,
                                      all networks should be run
                                      responsively,  just like all your
                                      neighbors  shouldn't play loud
                                      music after 10pm, but that doesn't
                                      mean you can force your local
                                      church to arrest them and ban them
                                      from Sunday service. Same with
                                      abuse, if a network is running
                                      abusively, police will find them
                                      and shut them down--again, not
                                      AFRINIC's business.</span></font></p>
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              you're right.  This policy is for improving the internet
              for billions of people, by enabling networks to contact
              each other to resolve abuse related issues such that the
              internet can remain an open and friendly place by
              eliminating the problems.  An abuse contact allows us to
              achieve exactly that.  Without it, no one is going to
              contact you regarding individual customers of yours,
              enabling you to take action against your individual
              customers, or to work with your customers to resolve
              problems, they're going to track down your transit
              providers, and they're going to get your entire network
              isolated and de-routed.  You leave them no other choices.<br>
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                          lang="EN-US">Internet is about cooperation, I
                          don’t think you can choose “not to reply”. You
                          can choose “not to consider it an abuse”, but
                          not reply at all, in my opinion, will be
                          against the correct management of the
                          resources, which you’re bound as an AFRINIC
                          member. You can choose to no reply to victims
                          if they insist in something that you told them
                          is not an abuse, that’s fine, but you must
                          reply to AFRINIC for the validation of any
                          data, whois, etc.</span></p>
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                          network, I’m trying to understand your
                          perspective, that’s it.</span></p>
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                            style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 21/9/20 14:46,
                            "Lamiaa Chnayti" <<a
                              href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>>
                            escribió:</p>
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                                        <pre style="margin-left:54.9pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">You keep mixing up two very simple concepts, it is ok for AFRINIC to include abuse-c as part of whois registration, just like admin-c or tech-c. But IT IS ENTIRELY absurd to have AFRINIC to verify how members reply to their Email, even down to the subject line. It is entirely the network's right to choose NOT to reply to that "victim ISP" at all because it doesn't think this is an abuse. </span><span style="color:rgb(21,21,21)"></span></pre>
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                                        <pre style="margin-left:54.9pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">And again you keep asking about my personal network and how I run it, and which is entirely irrelevant to this policy discussion. You can not disqualify people by disallowing anyone not running a network in this list, so what is your point? People discussing here who are running networks or not are none of anyone's business and is not relevant to the discussion of this policy.</span><span style="color:rgb(21,21,21)"></span></pre>
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                            style="margin-left:35.4pt">Le lun. 21 sept.
                            2020 à 10:00, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD
                            <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
                            a écrit :</p>
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                                  Lamiaa,</span></p>
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">8.3
                                  and 8.4 are making sure that you
                                  respond to an abuse case, *<b>not</b>*
                                  that you *<b>recognize</b>* it as an
                                  abuse. It is your choice to tell the
                                  “victim ISP”, look for me this is not
                                  an abuse, so I will not do anything
                                  about it.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">AFRINIC
                                  can’t verify this automatically,
                                  because it doesn’t make sense that
                                  AFRINIC is “sending” fake abuse
                                  reports to see if they get a response.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">AFRINIC
                                  can only send an email for the
                                  validation of the mailbox. It is an
                                  existing mailbox? I’m getting a
                                  response (for example, have they, once
                                  I send the validation email, clicked
                                  the link or went into MyAfrinic to
                                  input the validation code?).</span></p>
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">8.4
                                  also states the timing for the
                                  validation.</span></p>
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">8.5
                                  is the validation itself, so I guess,
                                  according to your response, that
                                  you’re ok with this specific point. If
                                  we don’t have it, AFRINIC can’t do a
                                  periodic validation.</span></p>
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">8.6.
                                  is making sure that you don’t try to
                                  fake the validation. For instance, you
                                  could respond only to AFRINIC
                                  validations and then discard all the
                                  other emails. If we don’t have that,
                                  the policy may become useless. Note
                                  also that in fact, if you follow the
                                  RSA, *<b>anyone</b>* could escalate *<b>any</b>*
                                  lack of CPM compliance. So this is
                                  making sure that the policy text is
                                  honest and transparent.</span></p>
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Or
                                  do you prefer to be filtered because
                                  you don’t respond?</span></p>
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Clearly
                                  this proposal is not asking AFRINIC to
                                  be a police. Is only making sure that
                                  the parties *<b>can talk</b>*. Again:
                                  AFRINIC will not be involved in “how
                                  you handle the case”, but I least you
                                  should be able to be contacted and
                                  respond.</span></p>
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">See
                                  this example:</span></p>
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                                  lang="EN-US">If AK or Moses customers
                                  are sending me spam, or trying to
                                  intrude my network, and they have
                                  abuse contacts, I will be able to
                                  complain to them. Then we have two
                                  cases:</span></p>
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                                  style="color:black" lang="EN-US">1.</span><span
                                  lang="EN-US">   </span><span
                                  style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                  lang="EN-US">Moses responds to me and
                                  say “you’re right, this is against our
                                  AUP” (is irrelevant what the law in
                                  Moses country say, it is the contract
                                  with customers what says what is
                                  allowed or not). Let’s fix it. I will
                                  warn the customer, and if they don’t
                                  stop, we will filter their email port,
                                  or even cancel the contract (just
                                  examples, only Moses can decide what
                                  they do).</span></p>
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                                  style="color:black" lang="EN-US">2.</span><span
                                  lang="EN-US">   </span><span
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                                  lang="EN-US">AK instead doesn’t care,
                                  or the mailbox is full or bouncing
                                  emails or respond “sorry in our
                                  network we allow that”. Then I can
                                  take my own decision, filter only that
                                  IP address, or the complete AK
                                  network. I can even see if this is
                                  allowed in his country and take legal
                                  actions (which usually you don’t do
                                  because is costly and more of the
                                  regulations don’t know “anything”
                                  about abuse or even Internet!).</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                  style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">AFRINIC
                                  will not take any measure if AK
                                  decides that is not an abuse. It is
                                  our problem not AFRINIC problem.
                                  However, if the email is bouncing,
                                  AFRINIC will revalidate the abuse-c
                                  and make sure that it works.</span></p>
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                                  lang="EN-US">Is like a phone book. You
                                  have there the phones and they must be
                                  correct, or you need to update them
                                  every “n” months. The phone book
                                  doesn’t tell the purpose of each
                                  phone. If you don’t want to accept
                                  calls related to “ordering pizzas”,
                                  you tell the caller “this number is
                                  not for that”, but at least you must
                                  pick up the phone otherwise, you don’t
                                  know if it is somebody calling by
                                  error or someone that you really want
                                  to talk. And this is true for *<b>every</b>*
                                  whois contact.</span></p>
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                                  you let us know how do you handle it
                                  in the networks that you operate?</span></p>
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                                    21/9/20 10:00, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <<a
href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>>
                                    escribió:</p>
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                                  Fernando, </p>
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                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt">I think you
                                  are very confused. I never said I have
                                  a problem with people completing their
                                  registration. Keep
                                  registration---having an abuse contact
                                  Email in the whois, just like tech
                                  contact or admin contact--I am
                                  perfectly fine with it, and I think
                                  the current policy achieves 99% it, if
                                  you want to add this contact as
                                  mandatory field I am fine with it as
                                  well.</p>
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                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"> But the
                                  problem of this policy in 8.3-8.6, is
                                  that it requires AFRINIC to monitor
                                  the members HOW to manage their abuse
                                  mailbox down to the subject line,  and
                                  that is out of the scope of AFRINIC,
                                  just read my last email with logic in
                                  mind and you will understand. I
                                  suggest this policy should be very
                                  simple,  adding one line to the
                                  current policy-- abuse contact is
                                  mandatory, and it's done, everything
                                  else should be deleted.</p>
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                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt">And again,
                                  you are trying to use AFRINIC for
                                  something that is not in its scope,
                                  how someone manages their mailbox is
                                  not in the scope of AFRINIC, it is
                                  like you go to your local church to
                                  ask them to arrest your neighbour who
                                  plays loud music at night when you
                                  should go to police instead. Same
                                  thing for someone running an abusive
                                  network, as many already stated, it is
                                  up to a local Jury to decide if it is
                                  simply at an annoying level or a
                                  criminal offense, but either way
                                  please do go to your local police to
                                  report it.</p>
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                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt">As for the
                                  internet, we never tell you how to
                                  behave--you are entirely at your
                                  rights in the internet to behave
                                  abusively, but it is also entirely in
                                  everyone's rights to block you, that's
                                  how de-centralizing works, no central
                                  governing, everyone plays nice because
                                  that's the only way for everyone else
                                  to play with you, and this policy here
                                  asks AFRINIC to act like a central
                                  government even down to manage
                                  people's mailbox's subject line and
                                  that is way beyond what internet meant
                                  to be.</p>
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                                      style="margin-left:70.8pt">Le dim.
                                      20 sept. 2020 à 23:42, Fernando
                                      Frediani <<a
                                        href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>
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                                        On 19/09/2020 13:19, Lamiaa
                                        Chnayti wrote:<br>
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                                                        <pre style="margin-right:19.5pt;margin-left:70.8pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">How is it in the scope of AFRINIC to decide how I manage my abuse mailbox? If I want to reply only to a specific subject line of my abuse box, it is entirely in my right to do. Even if I don't want to reply at the abuse mailbox at all, that is my right to do so and if I think no action in my network would be considered abuse (although unlikely), but it is still from  the internet community point of view, entirely in my right to do so. You might choose to block me as a network, but that is also your right. </span></pre>
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                                                        <pre style="margin-right:19.5pt;margin-left:70.8pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US"> </span></pre>
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                                                        <pre style="margin-right:19.5pt;margin-left:70.8pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">The reason internet is called INTER-NET is because of its decentralized nature, you have to play nice for others to play with you, but this community never forces anyone to play nice, it is not in the scope of AFRINIC to decide how members reply to their abuse mailbox, so if 8.3,8.4, 8.5 and 8.6 are deleted in its entirety, I might consider supporting it. Also Jordi, I feel you always have this central management type of thinking, and that is so not internet.</span></pre>
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                                      <p style="margin-left:70.8pt">It
                                        is not in the scope of any RIR
                                        how anyone manage people's<br>
                                        <br>
                                        mailboxes.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        Nobody exists alone in the
                                        Internet. If an organization<br>
                                        <br>
                                        hypothetically doesn't care at
                                        all and refuses to respond to
                                        abuse<br>
                                        <br>
                                        emails it probably should
                                        re-think its existence in the
                                        Internet<br>
                                        <br>
                                        business.</p>
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                                      <p
                                        style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt">The
                                        Internet is what is among many
                                        reasons because of the<br>
                                        <br>
                                        cooperation among its
                                        organizations, and there are
                                        certain rules<br>
                                        <br>
                                        that are agreed cooperatively
                                        and must be observed by everyone<br>
                                        <br>
                                        willing remain on it, otherwise
                                        it may in many cases cause
                                        serious<br>
                                        <br>
                                        damage to those willing to
                                        operate in serious manner and
                                        keep it a<br>
                                        <br>
                                        healthy place to most people who
                                        depend on it.</p>
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                                      <p style="margin-left:70.8pt">This
                                        forum is about setting rules on
                                        how registration information<br>
                                        <br>
                                        about resources are kept and it
                                        may be of the wish of the<br>
                                        <br>
                                        community to refuse keep
                                        registration for those who
                                        repetitively<br>
                                        <br>
                                        abuse of their individual
                                        rights.</p>
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                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt">Le ven.
                                              18 sept. 2020 à 09:23,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
                                              RPD <<a
                                                href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
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                                                moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Hi Lamiaa,</span></p>
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                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">I don’t agree. Internet doesn't
                                                    depend on<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    any jurisdiction;
                                                    abuse is about what
                                                    I (the victim<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    operator) consider
                                                    abuse. The RFC is
                                                    clear about that,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    in short
                                                    “Inappropriate
                                                    public behaviour”
                                                    (is a<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    mailbox so to be
                                                    able to contact in
                                                    case there is a<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    possible
                                                    inappropriate
                                                    behaviour in the
                                                    public<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Internet). If you
                                                    want a clearer
                                                    definition, abuse is<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    *<b>anything</b>*
                                                    that I don’t want to
                                                    accept in my<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    network because is
                                                    in any way damaging
                                                    it.</span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">If I don’t want to accept a DoS, or
                                                    spam,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    or phising, DMCA, or
                                                    whatever, this is
                                                    abuse *<b>for<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      me</b>*. I’ve the
                                                    right to tell you
                                                    because that<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    abuse is coming from
                                                    your network. If you
                                                    believe that<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    is not abuse (and
                                                    here is your
                                                    jurisdiction in some<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    cases, in other just
                                                    doesn’t exist, but
                                                    it may be also<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    your “business”
                                                    decision – like
                                                    operators that don’t<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    care if their
                                                    customers do spam or
                                                    intrusion<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    attempts), you’ve
                                                    the right to tell me
                                                    “sorry, this is<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    not abuse for us”,
                                                    and then I’ve the
                                                    right to decide<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    if I should filter
                                                    your network based
                                                    on your<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    response.</span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Not having an abuse contact, means
                                                    that<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    I’m not able to
                                                    contact you, so we
                                                    can’t talk, we<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    can’t investigate or
                                                    agree if it is an
                                                    abuse or not,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    so you (the offender
                                                    operator) don’t have
                                                    the chance<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    to decide about it!
                                                    Is bad for you, is
                                                    bad for me. In<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    those cases, my best
                                                    choice is to filter
                                                    you. This<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    create problems for
                                                    your customers and
                                                    my customers.</span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">We can’t depend on jurisdictions,
                                                    because<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    then the policy will
                                                    need to consider
                                                    inter-relations<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    among every possible
                                                    “pairs” of country
                                                    worlds, and we<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    will need to update
                                                    the policy based on
                                                    any<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    jurisdiction change.
                                                    The policy is not
                                                    about that, is<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    about having a valid
                                                    responsible contact,
                                                    not about<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    deciding what is an
                                                    abuse, which is
                                                    among the two<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    parties.</span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Tell me what is different from
                                                    AFRINIC<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    than the rest of the
                                                    world, because none
                                                    of the RIRs<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    have defined abuse
                                                    in their policies. I
                                                    even don’t<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    recall that having
                                                    appeared in the
                                                    discussions!</span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">If<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      you want, I’m
                                                      happy to change
                                                      the title of the<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      proposal to
                                                      “supposed abuse
                                                      contact”, that may
                                                      be<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      clearing your
                                                      point?</span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Again,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      this is not about
                                                      defining what is
                                                      abuse, this is<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      among the parties.
                                                      It is about making
                                                      sure that<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      there is a valid
                                                      responsible
                                                      contact in case of<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      anyone needs to
                                                      report what he
                                                      considers an
                                                      abuse.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      AFRINIC will not
                                                      punish anyone that
                                                      believes that<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      his customer is
                                                      not doing an abuse
                                                      because in his<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      country is not an
                                                      abuse.</span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Jordi</span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">El<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      18/9/20 9:59,
                                                      "Lamiaa Chnayti"
                                                      <<a
                                                        href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com"
                                                        target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      escribió:</p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">Hello<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Jordi,</p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">RFC2142<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      only defines a
                                                      tiny portion of
                                                      the network abuse.
                                                      In<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      real world
                                                      operation, abuse
                                                      consists of a
                                                       much<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      boarder range :
                                                      DMCA(copy rights)
                                                      claims,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      unsolicited emails
                                                      , phishing
                                                       websites , trade
                                                      mark<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      disputes etc. </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">All<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      those are legal
                                                      issues that vary
                                                      vastly across<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      different
                                                      juridictions in
                                                      which no one but
                                                      each of<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      the juridiction’s
                                                      judges can decide
                                                      if it is an<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      abuse or an
                                                      illegal activity.
                                                      Claiming that
                                                      RFC2142<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      defines not even
                                                      1% of real world
                                                      abuse is<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      laughable.</p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">Regards,</p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">Lamiaa</p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">Le jeu.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          17 sept. 2020
                                                          à 15:51, JORDI
                                                          PALET MARTINEZ
                                                          via<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD <<a
                                                          href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a écrit :</p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <blockquote
style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lamiaa,</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">I’ve<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          said this
                                                          already. This
                                                          policy doesn’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforce abuse,
                                                          it enforces
                                                          that the abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact is
                                                          there, and
                                                          works.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Today<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          paying for the
                                                          cost of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse handling
                                                          because only a
                                                          tiny<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fraction of
                                                          the members
                                                          has the abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts in
                                                          place.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the contacts
                                                          in the RIR
                                                          database
                                                          aren’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          actual and
                                                          accurate, this
                                                          is a clear<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          violation of
                                                          the RSA. So
                                                          what is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          unacceptable
                                                          is not having
                                                          the contacts,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not on the
                                                          other way
                                                          around.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not defined
                                                          by the RIRs,
                                                          everybody<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          knows it and
                                                          this is the
                                                          reason why
                                                          NONE<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the RIRs
                                                          have
                                                          re-defined it,
                                                          because it<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is already
                                                          stated in
                                                          RFC2142. Can
                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          justify why
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          different and
                                                          need<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a definition?</span></p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">How<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you define it
                                                          in the
                                                          networks that
                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operate?</span></p>
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windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">El 17/9/20<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          10:49, "Lamiaa
                                                          Chnayti" <<a
href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0cm">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</span></a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
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style="color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0cm"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Hello,</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          will have to
                                                          agree with
                                                          Lucilla on
                                                          what<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          she said and
                                                          would like to
                                                          add to it<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that :</span></p>
                                                          <p
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Firstly, Abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforcement is
                                                          out of scope
                                                          for RIRs.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Secondly, RIRs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have no
                                                          ability to
                                                          define what is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “abuse”, one
                                                          abuse or even
                                                          criminal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          activity could
                                                          be entirely a
                                                          legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operation in a
                                                          different
                                                          jurisdiction.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Finally, making<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a member
                                                          forcefully
                                                          reply to abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact Emails
                                                          are a waste of
                                                          resources<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and totally
                                                          pointless, it
                                                          is entirely up<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to the member
                                                          to define what
                                                          they think<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is acceptable
                                                          in their
                                                          network
                                                          operation<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and how they
                                                          react to it.
                                                          AFRINIC has no<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mandate to
                                                          force any
                                                          member to
                                                          reply to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an “abuse”,
                                                          since AFRINIC
                                                          doesn’t even<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have the
                                                          ability to
                                                          identify what
                                                          is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          considered an
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Therefore the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          entire policy
                                                          is out of
                                                          scope for the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RIR operation.</span></p>
                                                          <p
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Regards,</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Lamiaa</span></p>
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                                                          <pre style="margin-left:161.1pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:11.5pt"> </span></pre>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt">Le jeu. 17<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sept. 2020
                                                          à 07:42, JORDI
                                                          PALET MARTINEZ<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0cm">rpd@afrinic.net</span></a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a écrit :</p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Hi Lucilla,</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Today we already have<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mnt-IRT, and
                                                          everybody who
                                                          operate<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks
                                                          understand
                                                          what it is an<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse. If you
                                                          operate
                                                          networks you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          know that *<b>anything</b>*
                                                          which<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is a
                                                          non-authorized
                                                          use of a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          network is an
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">If you send spam,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          attack
                                                          networks, try
                                                          to intrude<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks,
                                                          etc., all
                                                          those are<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">What the policy ask<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is to make
                                                          sure that in
                                                          AFRINIC<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          everybody has
                                                          an abuse
                                                          contact<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (today we have
                                                          mnt-IRT, but
                                                          is not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mandatory, and
                                                          as a results
                                                          many<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          African
                                                          networks are
                                                          filtered<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          because lack
                                                          of that – and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          consequently
                                                          they do not
                                                          respond<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to abuse cases
                                                          -, which exist
                                                          in<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          all the other
                                                          regions of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          world).</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Not having an abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          means more
                                                          chances of
                                                          legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          actions, more
                                                          cost, for both
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          victims and
                                                          the ISPs.
                                                          Having<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that means
                                                          that you have
                                                          more<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          chances to
                                                          resolve it in<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          goodfaith.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">One of the *<b>most<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          important</b>*
                                                          Afrinic<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          missions is to
                                                          have accuracy
                                                          on<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the database,
                                                          which includes<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          accuracy on
                                                          the contacts.
                                                          We are<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not fulfilling
                                                          that in this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          situation.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Remember that *<b>all</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the other RIRs
                                                          have already
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          kind of
                                                          policy. This
                                                          one is like<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the one that
                                                          has been<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          implemented in
                                                          APNIC, and the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          accuracy of
                                                          the contacts
                                                          is now<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          87.5% as
                                                          reported this
                                                          month in<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the last APNIC
                                                          meeting. In
                                                          that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          report *<b>none</b>*
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          members
                                                          indicated any
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          issues that
                                                          you indicated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (didn't
                                                          happened as
                                                          well in the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          other
                                                          regions).</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">You know who is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          interested in
                                                          not having
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts?
                                                          Those that use
                                                          their<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks for
                                                          doing abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (hijacking,
                                                          spam, DoS,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          intrusions,
                                                          etc.).</span></p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Can you explain if<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the network
                                                          that you
                                                          operate has<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an abuse
                                                          contact an how
                                                          if one<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of your
                                                          customes is
                                                          trying to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          penetrate my
                                                          network or do
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          DoS, I will be
                                                          able to
                                                          contact<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you and if you
                                                          will do
                                                          anything<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          or just ignore
                                                          it?</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt
                                                          none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Jordi</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt
                                                          none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm"
                                                          lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt
                                                          none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">El<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          17/9/20 2:21,
                                                          "lucilla
                                                          fornaro"<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="border:1pt none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</span></a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Dear<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          all,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have some
                                                          concerns about
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “Abuse Contact
                                                          Policy”.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">First<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of all, it
                                                          does not offer
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          specific and
                                                          regulated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          description of
                                                          the term<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “abuse”  and
                                                          this opens the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          door to
                                                          potentially
                                                          bigger<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          problems: a
                                                          surplus of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          reports,
                                                          discrimination/legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          issues, and a
                                                          waste of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          resources.
                                                          Around the
                                                          world,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          we can
                                                          perceive what
                                                          abuse is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in very
                                                          different
                                                          ways.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Afrinic<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not
                                                          entitled to
                                                          force<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          members to
                                                          report abuses
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          most
                                                          importantly,
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          proposal does
                                                          not represent<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Afrinic’s
                                                          purpose.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          therefore,
                                                          oppose this
                                                          policy.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Thank<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Lucilla </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">_______________________________________________<br>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          intended to be
                                                          for the
                                                          exclusive use<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the
                                                          individual(s)
                                                          named above
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          further
                                                          non-explicilty
                                                          authorized<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          use of the
                                                          contents of
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
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                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited and
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          criminal
                                                          offense. If
                                                          you are not
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          intended
                                                          recipient be
                                                          aware that any<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          use of the
                                                          contents of
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited,
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          criminal
                                                          offense, so
                                                          you must reply
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the original
                                                          sender to
                                                          inform about<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          this
                                                          communication
                                                          and delete it.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt">_______________________________________________<br>
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                                                          RPD mailing
                                                          list<br>
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                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">RPD@afrinic.net</span></a><br>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </blockquote>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          IPv4 is over<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Are you ready
                                                          for the new
                                                          Internet ?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="http://www.theipv6company.com/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="border:1pt none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">http://www.theipv6company.com</span></a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The IPv6
                                                          Company<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This
                                                          electronic
                                                          message
                                                          contains
                                                          information<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          which may be
                                                          privileged or
                                                          confidential.
                                                          The<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information is
                                                          intended to be
                                                          for the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          exclusive use
                                                          of the
                                                          individual(s)
                                                          named above<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and further
                                                          non-explicilty
                                                          authorized<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the contents
                                                          of this
                                                          information,
                                                          even if<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          partially,
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          strictly
                                                          prohibited and
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          criminal
                                                          offense. If
                                                          you are not
                                                          the intended<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          recipient be
                                                          aware that any
                                                          disclosure,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of the
                                                          contents<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of this
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited,
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a
                                                          criminal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          offense, so
                                                          you must reply
                                                          to the
                                                          original<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sender to
                                                          inform about
                                                          this
                                                          communication
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          delete it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          RPD mailing
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </blockquote>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">Le jeu.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        17 sept. 2020 à
                                                        15:49, JORDI
                                                        PALET MARTINEZ
                                                        via<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        RPD <<a
                                                          href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        a écrit :</p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <blockquote
style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt
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                                                      rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm
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                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lamiaa,</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">I’ve<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          said this
                                                          already. This
                                                          policy doesn’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforce abuse,
                                                          it enforces
                                                          that the abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact is
                                                          there, and
                                                          works.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Today<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          paying for the
                                                          cost of the
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          handling
                                                          because only a
                                                          tiny fraction
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          members has
                                                          the abuse
                                                          contacts in
                                                          place.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">If
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts in
                                                          the RIR
                                                          database
                                                          aren’t actual<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and accurate,
                                                          this is a
                                                          clear
                                                          violation of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the RSA. So
                                                          what is
                                                          unacceptable
                                                          is not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          having the
                                                          contacts, not
                                                          on the other
                                                          way<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          around.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Abuse
                                                          is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not defined by
                                                          the RIRs,
                                                          everybody
                                                          knows it<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and this is
                                                          the reason why
                                                          NONE of the
                                                          RIRs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have
                                                          re-defined it,
                                                          because it is
                                                          already<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          stated in
                                                          RFC2142. Can
                                                          you justify
                                                          why<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          different and
                                                          need a
                                                          definition?</span></p>
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                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          define it in
                                                          the networks
                                                          that you
                                                          operate?</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">El 17/9/20<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          10:49, "Lamiaa
                                                          Chnayti" <<a
href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">Hello,</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          will have to
                                                          agree with
                                                          Lucilla on
                                                          what<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          she said and
                                                          would like to
                                                          add to it that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          :</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Firstly, Abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforcement is
                                                          out of scope
                                                          for RIRs.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Secondly, RIRs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have no
                                                          ability to
                                                          define what is
                                                          “abuse”,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          one abuse or
                                                          even criminal
                                                          activity could<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          be entirely a
                                                          legal
                                                          operation in a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          different
                                                          jurisdiction.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Finally, making<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a member
                                                          forcefully
                                                          reply to abuse
                                                          contact<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Emails are a
                                                          waste of
                                                          resources and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          totally
                                                          pointless, it
                                                          is entirely up
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the member to
                                                          define what
                                                          they think is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          acceptable in
                                                          their network
                                                          operation and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          how they react
                                                          to it. AFRINIC
                                                          has no<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mandate to
                                                          force any
                                                          member to
                                                          reply to an<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “abuse”, since
                                                          AFRINIC
                                                          doesn’t even
                                                          have<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the ability to
                                                          identify what
                                                          is considered<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an abuse.</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Therefore the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          entire policy
                                                          is out of
                                                          scope for the
                                                          RIR<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operation.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Regards,</span></p>
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style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Lamiaa</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">Le jeu. 17<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sept. 2020
                                                          à 07:42, JORDI
                                                          PALET MARTINEZ<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a écrit :</p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lucilla,</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Today<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          we already
                                                          have mnt-IRT,
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          everybody who
                                                          operate
                                                          networks<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          understand
                                                          what it is an
                                                          abuse. If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you operate
                                                          networks you
                                                          know that *<b>anything</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          which is a
                                                          non-authorized
                                                          use of a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          network is an
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you send spam,
                                                          attack
                                                          networks, try<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to intrude
                                                          networks,
                                                          etc., all
                                                          those<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          are abuse.</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">What<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the policy ask
                                                          is to make
                                                          sure that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in AFRINIC
                                                          everybody has
                                                          an abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact (today
                                                          we have
                                                          mnt-IRT, but<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not
                                                          mandatory, and
                                                          as a results<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          many African
                                                          networks are
                                                          filtered<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          because lack
                                                          of that – and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          consequently
                                                          they do not
                                                          respond to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse cases -,
                                                          which exist in
                                                          all<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the other
                                                          regions of the
                                                          world).</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Not
                                                          having an
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          means more
                                                          chances of
                                                          legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          actions, more
                                                          cost, for both
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          victims and
                                                          the ISPs.
                                                          Having that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          means that you
                                                          have more
                                                          chances<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to resolve it
                                                          in goodfaith.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">One
                                                          of the *<b>most<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          important</b>*
                                                          Afrinic
                                                          missions<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is to have
                                                          accuracy on
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          database,
                                                          which includes
                                                          accuracy<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          on the
                                                          contacts. We
                                                          are not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fulfilling
                                                          that in this
                                                          situation.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Remember
                                                          that *<b>all</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the other RIRs
                                                          have already
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          kind of
                                                          policy. This
                                                          one is like<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the one that
                                                          has been
                                                          implemented<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in APNIC, and
                                                          the accuracy
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts is
                                                          now 87.5% as
                                                          reported<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          this month in
                                                          the last APNIC<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          meeting. In
                                                          that report *<b>none</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the members
                                                          indicated any
                                                          of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the issues
                                                          that you
                                                          indicated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (didn't
                                                          happened as
                                                          well in the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          other
                                                          regions).</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">You
                                                          know who is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          interested in
                                                          not having
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts?
                                                          Those that use
                                                          their<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks for
                                                          doing abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (hijacking,
                                                          spam, DoS,
                                                          intrusions,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          etc.).</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Can
                                                          you explain if<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the network
                                                          that you
                                                          operate has<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an abuse
                                                          contact an how
                                                          if one of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          your customes
                                                          is trying to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          penetrate my
                                                          network or do
                                                          a DoS,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I will be able
                                                          to contact you
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          if you will do
                                                          anything or
                                                          just<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ignore it?</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Jordi</span></p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">El<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          17/9/20 2:21,
                                                          "lucilla
                                                          fornaro"<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Dear<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          all,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have some
                                                          concerns about
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “Abuse Contact
                                                          Policy”.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">First<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of all, it
                                                          does not offer
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          specific and
                                                          regulated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          description of
                                                          the term
                                                          “abuse”<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           and this
                                                          opens the door
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          potentially
                                                          bigger
                                                          problems: a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          surplus of
                                                          reports,<br>
                                                          <br>
discrimination/legal issues, and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a waste of
                                                          resources.
                                                          Around the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          world, we can
                                                          perceive what<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse is in
                                                          very different
                                                          ways.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Afrinic<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not
                                                          entitled to
                                                          force members<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to report
                                                          abuses and
                                                          most<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          importantly,
                                                          this proposal
                                                          does<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not represent
                                                          Afrinic’s
                                                          purpose.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          therefore,
                                                          oppose this
                                                          policy.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Thank<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Lucilla </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:177pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD mailing
                                                          list <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          IPv4 is over<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Are you ready
                                                          for the new
                                                          Internet ?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The IPv6
                                                          Company<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This
                                                          electronic
                                                          message
                                                          contains<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information
                                                          which may be
                                                          privileged or<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          confidential.
                                                          The
                                                          information is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          intended to be
                                                          for the
                                                          exclusive use
                                                          of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the
                                                          individual(s)
                                                          named above
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          further
                                                          non-explicilty
                                                          authorized<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the
                                                          contents of
                                                          this
                                                          information,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,
                                                          including
                                                          attached<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly
                                                          prohibited and
                                                          will<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          be considered
                                                          a criminal
                                                          offense. If
                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          are not the
                                                          intended
                                                          recipient be
                                                          aware<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that any
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of the
                                                          contents of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          this
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited,
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          criminal
                                                          offense, so
                                                          you must reply
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the original
                                                          sender to
                                                          inform about
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          communication
                                                          and delete it.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD mailing
                                                          list<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          IPv4 is over<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Are you ready
                                                          for the new
                                                          Internet ?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The IPv6
                                                          Company<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This
                                                          electronic
                                                          message
                                                          contains
                                                          information<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          which may be
                                                          privileged or
                                                          confidential.
                                                          The<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information is
                                                          intended to be
                                                          for the
                                                          exclusive<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          use of the
                                                          individual(s)
                                                          named above
                                                          and further<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          non-explicilty
                                                          authorized
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of the
                                                          contents of
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,
                                                          including<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly
                                                          prohibited and
                                                          will<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          be considered
                                                          a criminal
                                                          offense. If
                                                          you are not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the intended
                                                          recipient be
                                                          aware that any<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contents of
                                                          this
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited,
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a
                                                          criminal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          offense, so
                                                          you must reply
                                                          to the
                                                          original<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sender to
                                                          inform about
                                                          this
                                                          communication
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          delete it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        RPD mailing list<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <a
                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    </blockquote>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:106.2pt">--
                                                </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Lamiaa<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          CHNAYTI</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              </div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                IPv4 is over<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Are you ready for the
                                                new Internet ?<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <a
                                                  href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                The IPv6 Company<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                This electronic message
                                                contains information
                                                which may be<br>
                                                <br>
                                                privileged or
                                                confidential. The
                                                information is intended
                                                to<br>
                                                <br>
                                                be for the exclusive use
                                                of the individual(s)
                                                named above<br>
                                                <br>
                                                and further
                                                non-explicilty
                                                authorized disclosure,
                                                copying,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                distribution or use of
                                                the contents of this
                                                information,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                even if partially,
                                                including attached
                                                files, is strictly<br>
                                                <br>
                                                prohibited and will be
                                                considered a criminal
                                                offense. If you<br>
                                                <br>
                                                are not the intended
                                                recipient be aware that
                                                any disclosure,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                copying, distribution or
                                                use of the contents of
                                                this<br>
                                                <br>
                                                information, even if
                                                partially, including
                                                attached files, is<br>
                                                <br>
                                                strictly prohibited,
                                                will be considered a
                                                criminal offense,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                so you must reply to the
                                                original sender to
                                                inform about<br>
                                                <br>
                                                this communication and
                                                delete it.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                              </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                              <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              RPD mailing list<br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <a
                                                href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <a
                                                href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </p>
                                        <pre style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt">_______________________________________________

RPD mailing list

<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a>

<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></pre>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                      </blockquote>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                      <br>
                                      RPD mailing list<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <a
                                        href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                  </blockquote>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-left:70.8pt">-- </p>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Lamiaa CHNAYTI</span></p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-left:70.8pt">_______________________________________________
                                RPD mailing list <a
                                  href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
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                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
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                              style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><br>
**********************************************<br>
                              IPv4 is over<br>
                              Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
                              <a href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                              The IPv6 Company<br>
                              <br>
                              This electronic message contains
                              information which may be privileged or
                              confidential. The information is intended
                              to be for the exclusive use of the
                              individual(s) named above and further
                              non-explicilty authorized disclosure,
                              copying, distribution or use of the
                              contents of this information, even if
                              partially, including attached files, is
                              strictly prohibited and will be considered
                              a criminal offense. If you are not the
                              intended recipient be aware that any
                              disclosure, copying, distribution or use
                              of the contents of this information, even
                              if partially, including attached files, is
                              strictly prohibited, will be considered a
                              criminal offense, so you must reply to the
                              original sender to inform about this
                              communication and delete it.</p>
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                            style="margin-left:35.4pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                            RPD mailing list<br>
                            <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
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                              href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    **********************************************<br>
                    IPv4 is over<br>
                    Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
                    <a href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                    The IPv6 Company<br>
                    <br>
                    This electronic message contains information which
                    may be privileged or confidential. The information
                    is intended to be for the exclusive use of the
                    individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty
                    authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use
                    of the contents of this information, even if
                    partially, including attached files, is strictly
                    prohibited and will be considered a criminal
                    offense. If you are not the intended recipient be
                    aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or
                    use of the contents of this information, even if
                    partially, including attached files, is strictly
                    prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense,
                    so you must reply to the original sender to inform
                    about this communication and delete it.<br>
                    <br>
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                  _______________________________________________<br>
                  RPD mailing list<br>
                  <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                  <a
                    href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
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<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
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          RPD mailing list<br>
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            moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
          <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
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