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    <p>Every day I get surprised with the amount of effort people put
      into not making something instead of making something that works
      for a collaborative place that must be the Internet.</p>
    <p>AfriNic PDP defines the rules resources are registered in its
      whois database and it may wish to choose not to register anymore
      bad netizens which may be using the resources it received from the
      RIR in a bad manner making the Internet a worst place.</p>
    <p>Fernando<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/09/2020 08:29, Jaco Kroon wrote:<br>
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      <p>Hi Lamiaa,</p>
      On 2020/09/22 10:32, Lamiaa Chnayti wrote:<br>
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                                course I can choose NOT TO REPLY, this
                                is my network, and I decide how I want
                                to run it. Everyday I ignore tons of </span><span
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                                and they go to a folder called spam, and
                                it is entirely up to me to decide IN MY
                                NETWORK what I consider spam. I think
                                you fundamentally mix up the concept of
                                "management of IP address registration"
                                with "management of network". AFRINIC
                                only has a mandate to manage
                                registration of IP numbers, it does not
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      <p>No.  I suspect Jordi knows a fair amount of the difference. 
        More so than most.<br>
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                                or mandate to manage networks. And once
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      <p>Nobody is asking Afrinic to manage any networks.  We're asking
        them to help those of that want to be good netizens to enable us
        to do that, by ensuring that contact can be made with other
        networks for the purposes of resolving abuse related problems. 
        My experience says that usually these disputes are between
        customers of ISPs but they insist that the ISPs should do
        something about it.  So short of me dropping your entire set of
        prefixes, I'd prefer to be able to make contact with you in
        order to look for a resolution.  Personally, I'm not worried
        about screaming insults and the like, those or nitty gritty
        issues people should sort out themselves, but what happens if a
        customer of yours is actively trying to hack on of mine?  Or the
        other way around?  Would you prefer we all just drop each
        other's routes and never actually resolve anything?<br>
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                                your hijacking as policy violation, your
                                over-intrusive management clause in
                                abuse-c get pushed back very hard in
                                RIPE. Hands off my network, as Randy
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      <p>I am sorry, in my opinion you're out of line here, that is
        bordering on a personal attack on Jordi, we're all trying to
        make this Internet a better place.  As is Jordi.  Whilst I do
        not agree with him on everything, what is it to you have a
        single email address that people can mail you on?  Honestly,
        nobody said you're not allowed to filter spam on that.  Again,
        you choose what is spam and not.  We're asking you to be
        responsible.  Basically by saying you refuse to publish an abuse
        contact you're effectively being an elitist stating that your
        network is so perfect that there is no reason anyone would ever
        need to contact you in an attempt to resolve a (probably)
        legitimate issue.<br>
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      <p>My response to that would be:  So why should I route your
        traffic?  Why shouldn't I just outright reject all your
        prefixes?<br>
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      <p>By enabling networks to contact each other via an abuse contact
        it enables all of us to communicate better, towards sorting out
        real issues.  If you don't want to be part of the solution, my
        personal opinion is that you should not form part of the
        internet.  My opinion is that by making abuse related contact
        more reliable we're improving the overall networking landscape. 
        You're still welcome to ignore contact you don't consider
        legitimate.  But know that that leaves us few options if you do
        ignore a legitimate issues.<br>
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                                their numbers, and they are done with
                                AFRINIC from this point on. How they
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      <p>No one is asking for confidential data.  We're asking for a
        contact where we can make contact with you in a case where of my
        customers and one of yours have issues with each other, in order
        to get problems / issues / disputes / whatever resolved amicably
        instead of via lawyers, so by all means, if you prefer me first
        suing Afrinic for your contact details, and then suing you for
        damages + costs ... guess we can go that route too.</p>
      <p>Alternatively I can file abuse complaints against you with your
        transit providers and if they agree with me, it's not just one
        or two of your customers that's going to face difficulty, it's
        going to be all of them.</p>
      <p>Either way, with an attitude like yours I'm fairly certain not
        many people will think twice about dropping your prefixes.<br>
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                                for the good of the internet and for the
                                future of this region, we are not making
                                policies for individual networks, but
                                rather policies impacting billions of
                                people's internet access, and it needs
                                to be abundantly clear on what we can do
                                and what is not for us to decide. Yes,
                                you are right, all networks should be
                                run responsively,  just like all your
                                neighbors  shouldn't play loud music
                                after 10pm, but that doesn't mean you
                                can force your local church to arrest
                                them and ban them from Sunday service.
                                Same with abuse, if a network is running
                                abusively, police will find them and
                                shut them down--again, not AFRINIC's
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        you're right.  This policy is for improving the internet for
        billions of people, by enabling networks to contact each other
        to resolve abuse related issues such that the internet can
        remain an open and friendly place by eliminating the problems. 
        An abuse contact allows us to achieve exactly that.  Without it,
        no one is going to contact you regarding individual customers of
        yours, enabling you to take action against your individual
        customers, or to work with your customers to resolve problems,
        they're going to track down your transit providers, and they're
        going to get your entire network isolated and de-routed.  You
        leave them no other choices.<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 21 sept. 2020
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                    lang="EN-US">Internet is about cooperation, I don’t
                    think you can choose “not to reply”. You can choose
                    “not to consider it an abuse”, but not reply at all,
                    in my opinion, will be against the correct
                    management of the resources, which you’re bound as
                    an AFRINIC member. You can choose to no reply to
                    victims if they insist in something that you told
                    them is not an abuse, that’s fine, but you must
                    reply to AFRINIC for the validation of any data,
                    whois, etc.</span></p>
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                    lang="EN-US">Regarding how you run your network, I’m
                    trying to understand your perspective, that’s it.</span></p>
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                                  <pre style="margin-left:54.9pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">And again you keep asking about my personal network and how I run it, and which is entirely irrelevant to this policy discussion. You can not disqualify people by disallowing anyone not running a network in this list, so what is your point? People discussing here who are running networks or not are none of anyone's business and is not relevant to the discussion of this policy.</span><span style="color:rgb(21,21,21)"></span></pre>
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                      21 sept. 2020 à 10:00, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
                      RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
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                            Lamiaa,</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">8.3 and
                            8.4 are making sure that you respond to an
                            abuse case, *<b>not</b>* that you *<b>recognize</b>*
                            it as an abuse. It is your choice to tell
                            the “victim ISP”, look for me this is not an
                            abuse, so I will not do anything about it.</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">AFRINIC
                            can’t verify this automatically, because it
                            doesn’t make sense that AFRINIC is “sending”
                            fake abuse reports to see if they get a
                            response.</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">AFRINIC
                            can only send an email for the validation of
                            the mailbox. It is an existing mailbox? I’m
                            getting a response (for example, have they,
                            once I send the validation email, clicked
                            the link or went into MyAfrinic to input the
                            validation code?).</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">8.4 also
                            states the timing for the validation.</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">8.5 is
                            the validation itself, so I guess, according
                            to your response, that you’re ok with this
                            specific point. If we don’t have it, AFRINIC
                            can’t do a periodic validation.</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">8.6. is
                            making sure that you don’t try to fake the
                            validation. For instance, you could respond
                            only to AFRINIC validations and then discard
                            all the other emails. If we don’t have that,
                            the policy may become useless. Note also
                            that in fact, if you follow the RSA, *<b>anyone</b>*
                            could escalate *<b>any</b>* lack of CPM
                            compliance. So this is making sure that the
                            policy text is honest and transparent.</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Or do
                            you prefer to be filtered because you don’t
                            respond?</span></p>
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                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Clearly
                            this proposal is not asking AFRINIC to be a
                            police. Is only making sure that the parties
                            *<b>can talk</b>*. Again: AFRINIC will not
                            be involved in “how you handle the case”,
                            but I least you should be able to be
                            contacted and respond.</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">See this
                            example:</span></p>
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                            lang="EN-US">If AK or Moses customers are
                            sending me spam, or trying to intrude my
                            network, and they have abuse contacts, I
                            will be able to complain to them. Then we
                            have two cases:</span></p>
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                            lang="EN-US">Moses responds to me and say
                            “you’re right, this is against our AUP” (is
                            irrelevant what the law in Moses country
                            say, it is the contract with customers what
                            says what is allowed or not). Let’s fix it.
                            I will warn the customer, and if they don’t
                            stop, we will filter their email port, or
                            even cancel the contract (just examples,
                            only Moses can decide what they do).</span></p>
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                            style="color:black" lang="EN-US">2.</span><span
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                            lang="EN-US">AK instead doesn’t care, or the
                            mailbox is full or bouncing emails or
                            respond “sorry in our network we allow
                            that”. Then I can take my own decision,
                            filter only that IP address, or the complete
                            AK network. I can even see if this is
                            allowed in his country and take legal
                            actions (which usually you don’t do because
                            is costly and more of the regulations don’t
                            know “anything” about abuse or even
                            Internet!).</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">AFRINIC
                            will not take any measure if AK decides that
                            is not an abuse. It is our problem not
                            AFRINIC problem. However, if the email is
                            bouncing, AFRINIC will revalidate the
                            abuse-c and make sure that it works.</span></p>
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                            lang="EN-US">Is like a phone book. You have
                            there the phones and they must be correct,
                            or you need to update them every “n” months.
                            The phone book doesn’t tell the purpose of
                            each phone. If you don’t want to accept
                            calls related to “ordering pizzas”, you tell
                            the caller “this number is not for that”,
                            but at least you must pick up the phone
                            otherwise, you don’t know if it is somebody
                            calling by error or someone that you really
                            want to talk. And this is true for *<b>every</b>*
                            whois contact.</span></p>
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                            let us know how do you handle it in the
                            networks that you operate?</span></p>
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                              10:00, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <<a
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                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>>
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                            very confused. I never said I have a problem
                            with people completing their registration.
                            Keep registration---having an abuse contact
                            Email in the whois, just like tech contact
                            or admin contact--I am perfectly fine with
                            it, and I think the current policy achieves
                            99% it, if you want to add this contact as
                            mandatory field I am fine with it as well.</p>
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                            of this policy in 8.3-8.6, is that it
                            requires AFRINIC to monitor the members HOW
                            to manage their abuse mailbox down to the
                            subject line,  and that is out of the scope
                            of AFRINIC, just read my last email with
                            logic in mind and you will understand. I
                            suggest this policy should be very simple,
                             adding one line to the current policy--
                            abuse contact is mandatory, and it's done,
                            everything else should be deleted.</p>
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                            are trying to use AFRINIC for something that
                            is not in its scope, how someone manages
                            their mailbox is not in the scope of
                            AFRINIC, it is like you go to your local
                            church to ask them to arrest your neighbour
                            who plays loud music at night when you
                            should go to police instead. Same thing for
                            someone running an abusive network, as many
                            already stated, it is up to a local Jury to
                            decide if it is simply at an annoying level
                            or a criminal offense, but either way please
                            do go to your local police to report it.</p>
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                            internet, we never tell you how to
                            behave--you are entirely at your rights in
                            the internet to behave abusively, but it is
                            also entirely in everyone's rights to block
                            you, that's how de-centralizing works, no
                            central governing, everyone plays nice
                            because that's the only way for everyone
                            else to play with you, and this policy here
                            asks AFRINIC to act like a central
                            government even down to manage people's
                            mailbox's subject line and that is way
                            beyond what internet meant to be.</p>
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                                style="margin-left:70.8pt">Le dim. 20
                                sept. 2020 à 23:42, Fernando Frediani
                                <<a
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                                <p style="margin-left:70.8pt">It is not
                                  in the scope of any RIR how anyone
                                  manage people's<br>
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                                  mailboxes.<br>
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                                  Nobody exists alone in the Internet.
                                  If an organization<br>
                                  <br>
                                  hypothetically doesn't care at all and
                                  refuses to respond to abuse<br>
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                                  emails it probably should re-think its
                                  existence in the Internet<br>
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                                  business.</p>
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                                  Internet is what is among many reasons
                                  because of the<br>
                                  <br>
                                  cooperation among its organizations,
                                  and there are certain rules<br>
                                  <br>
                                  that are agreed cooperatively and must
                                  be observed by everyone<br>
                                  <br>
                                  willing remain on it, otherwise it may
                                  in many cases cause serious<br>
                                  <br>
                                  damage to those willing to operate in
                                  serious manner and keep it a<br>
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                                  healthy place to most people who
                                  depend on it.</p>
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                                <p style="margin-left:70.8pt">This forum
                                  is about setting rules on how
                                  registration information<br>
                                  <br>
                                  about resources are kept and it may be
                                  of the wish of the<br>
                                  <br>
                                  community to refuse keep registration
                                  for those who repetitively<br>
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                                  abuse of their individual rights.</p>
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                                        18 sept. 2020 à 09:23,<br>
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                                        JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD
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                                              lang="EN-US">I don’t
                                              agree. Internet doesn't
                                              depend on<br>
                                              <br>
                                              any jurisdiction; abuse is
                                              about what I (the victim<br>
                                              <br>
                                              operator) consider abuse.
                                              The RFC is clear about
                                              that,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              in short “Inappropriate
                                              public behaviour” (is a<br>
                                              <br>
                                              mailbox so to be able to
                                              contact in case there is a<br>
                                              <br>
                                              possible inappropriate
                                              behaviour in the public<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Internet). If you want a
                                              clearer definition, abuse
                                              is<br>
                                              <br>
                                              *<b>anything</b>* that I
                                              don’t want to accept in my<br>
                                              <br>
                                              network because is in any
                                              way damaging it.</span></p>
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                                              lang="EN-US">If I don’t
                                              want to accept a DoS, or
                                              spam,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              or phising, DMCA, or
                                              whatever, this is abuse *<b>for<br>
                                                <br>
                                                me</b>*. I’ve the right
                                              to tell you because that<br>
                                              <br>
                                              abuse is coming from your
                                              network. If you believe
                                              that<br>
                                              <br>
                                              is not abuse (and here is
                                              your jurisdiction in some<br>
                                              <br>
                                              cases, in other just
                                              doesn’t exist, but it may
                                              be also<br>
                                              <br>
                                              your “business” decision –
                                              like operators that don’t<br>
                                              <br>
                                              care if their customers do
                                              spam or intrusion<br>
                                              <br>
                                              attempts), you’ve the
                                              right to tell me “sorry,
                                              this is<br>
                                              <br>
                                              not abuse for us”, and
                                              then I’ve the right to
                                              decide<br>
                                              <br>
                                              if I should filter your
                                              network based on your<br>
                                              <br>
                                              response.</span></p>
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                                              lang="EN-US">Not having an
                                              abuse contact, means that<br>
                                              <br>
                                              I’m not able to contact
                                              you, so we can’t talk, we<br>
                                              <br>
                                              can’t investigate or agree
                                              if it is an abuse or not,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              so you (the offender
                                              operator) don’t have the
                                              chance<br>
                                              <br>
                                              to decide about it! Is bad
                                              for you, is bad for me. In<br>
                                              <br>
                                              those cases, my best
                                              choice is to filter you.
                                              This<br>
                                              <br>
                                              create problems for your
                                              customers and my
                                              customers.</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                                              style="font-size:12pt"
                                              lang="EN-US">We can’t
                                              depend on jurisdictions,
                                              because<br>
                                              <br>
                                              then the policy will need
                                              to consider
                                              inter-relations<br>
                                              <br>
                                              among every possible
                                              “pairs” of country worlds,
                                              and we<br>
                                              <br>
                                              will need to update the
                                              policy based on any<br>
                                              <br>
                                              jurisdiction change. The
                                              policy is not about that,
                                              is<br>
                                              <br>
                                              about having a valid
                                              responsible contact, not
                                              about<br>
                                              <br>
                                              deciding what is an abuse,
                                              which is among the two<br>
                                              <br>
                                              parties.</span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                                              style="font-size:12pt"
                                              lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                                              style="font-size:12pt"
                                              lang="EN-US">Tell me what
                                              is different from AFRINIC<br>
                                              <br>
                                              than the rest of the
                                              world, because none of the
                                              RIRs<br>
                                              <br>
                                              have defined abuse in
                                              their policies. I even
                                              don’t<br>
                                              <br>
                                              recall that having
                                              appeared in the
                                              discussions!</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                                              style="font-size:12pt"
                                              lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">If<br>
                                                <br>
                                                you want, I’m happy to
                                                change the title of the<br>
                                                <br>
                                                proposal to “supposed
                                                abuse contact”, that may
                                                be<br>
                                                <br>
                                                clearing your point?</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Again,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                this is not about
                                                defining what is abuse,
                                                this is<br>
                                                <br>
                                                among the parties. It is
                                                about making sure that<br>
                                                <br>
                                                there is a valid
                                                responsible contact in
                                                case of<br>
                                                <br>
                                                anyone needs to report
                                                what he considers an
                                                abuse.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                AFRINIC will not punish
                                                anyone that believes
                                                that<br>
                                                <br>
                                                his customer is not
                                                doing an abuse because
                                                in his<br>
                                                <br>
                                                country is not an abuse.</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Jordi</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                          </div>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                                              style="font-size:12pt"
                                              lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                                              style="font-size:12pt"
                                              lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt">El<br>
                                                <br>
                                                18/9/20 9:59, "Lamiaa
                                                Chnayti" <<a
                                                  href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                <br>
                                                escribió:</p>
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                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt">Hello<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Jordi,</p>
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                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt">RFC2142<br>
                                                <br>
                                                only defines a tiny
                                                portion of the network
                                                abuse. In<br>
                                                <br>
                                                real world operation,
                                                abuse consists of a
                                                 much<br>
                                                <br>
                                                boarder range :
                                                DMCA(copy rights)
                                                claims,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                unsolicited emails ,
                                                phishing  websites ,
                                                trade mark<br>
                                                <br>
                                                disputes etc. </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt">All<br>
                                                <br>
                                                those are legal issues
                                                that vary vastly across<br>
                                                <br>
                                                different juridictions
                                                in which no one but each
                                                of<br>
                                                <br>
                                                the juridiction’s judges
                                                can decide if it is an<br>
                                                <br>
                                                abuse or an illegal
                                                activity. Claiming that
                                                RFC2142<br>
                                                <br>
                                                defines not even 1% of
                                                real world abuse is<br>
                                                <br>
                                                laughable.</p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt">Regards,</p>
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                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt">Lamiaa</p>
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                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:106.2pt">Le jeu.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    17 sept. 2020 à
                                                    15:51, JORDI PALET
                                                    MARTINEZ via<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    RPD <<a
                                                      href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    a écrit :</p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <blockquote
style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt
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                                                  <div>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lamiaa,</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">I’ve<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          said this
                                                          already. This
                                                          policy doesn’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforce abuse,
                                                          it enforces
                                                          that the abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact is
                                                          there, and
                                                          works.</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Today<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          paying for the
                                                          cost of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse handling
                                                          because only a
                                                          tiny<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fraction of
                                                          the members
                                                          has the abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts in
                                                          place.</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the contacts
                                                          in the RIR
                                                          database
                                                          aren’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          actual and
                                                          accurate, this
                                                          is a clear<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          violation of
                                                          the RSA. So
                                                          what is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          unacceptable
                                                          is not having
                                                          the contacts,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not on the
                                                          other way
                                                          around.</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not defined
                                                          by the RIRs,
                                                          everybody<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          knows it and
                                                          this is the
                                                          reason why
                                                          NONE<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the RIRs
                                                          have
                                                          re-defined it,
                                                          because it<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is already
                                                          stated in
                                                          RFC2142. Can
                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          justify why
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          different and
                                                          need<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a definition?</span></p>
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windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">How<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you define it
                                                          in the
                                                          networks that
                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operate?</span></p>
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windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">El 17/9/20<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          10:49, "Lamiaa
                                                          Chnayti" <<a
href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0cm">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</span></a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0cm"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Hello,</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"> </p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          will have to
                                                          agree with
                                                          Lucilla on
                                                          what<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          she said and
                                                          would like to
                                                          add to it<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that :</span></p>
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                                                        <p
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Firstly, Abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforcement is
                                                          out of scope
                                                          for RIRs.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Secondly, RIRs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have no
                                                          ability to
                                                          define what is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “abuse”, one
                                                          abuse or even
                                                          criminal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          activity could
                                                          be entirely a
                                                          legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operation in a
                                                          different
                                                          jurisdiction.</span></p>
                                                        <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Finally, making<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a member
                                                          forcefully
                                                          reply to abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact Emails
                                                          are a waste of
                                                          resources<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and totally
                                                          pointless, it
                                                          is entirely up<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to the member
                                                          to define what
                                                          they think<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is acceptable
                                                          in their
                                                          network
                                                          operation<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and how they
                                                          react to it.
                                                          AFRINIC has no<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mandate to
                                                          force any
                                                          member to
                                                          reply to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an “abuse”,
                                                          since AFRINIC
                                                          doesn’t even<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have the
                                                          ability to
                                                          identify what
                                                          is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          considered an
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Therefore the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          entire policy
                                                          is out of
                                                          scope for the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RIR operation.</span></p>
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                                                        <p
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"> </p>
                                                        <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Regards,</span></p>
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                                                        <p
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style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Lamiaa</span></p>
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                                                        <pre style="margin-left:161.1pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:11.5pt"> </span></pre>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">Le jeu. 17<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sept. 2020
                                                          à 07:42, JORDI
                                                          PALET MARTINEZ<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0cm">rpd@afrinic.net</span></a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a écrit :</p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Hi Lucilla,</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Today we already have<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mnt-IRT, and
                                                          everybody who
                                                          operate<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks
                                                          understand
                                                          what it is an<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse. If you
                                                          operate
                                                          networks you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          know that *<b>anything</b>*
                                                          which<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is a
                                                          non-authorized
                                                          use of a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          network is an
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">If you send spam,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          attack
                                                          networks, try
                                                          to intrude<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks,
                                                          etc., all
                                                          those are<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">What the policy ask<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is to make
                                                          sure that in
                                                          AFRINIC<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          everybody has
                                                          an abuse
                                                          contact<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (today we have
                                                          mnt-IRT, but
                                                          is not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mandatory, and
                                                          as a results
                                                          many<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          African
                                                          networks are
                                                          filtered<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          because lack
                                                          of that – and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          consequently
                                                          they do not
                                                          respond<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to abuse cases
                                                          -, which exist
                                                          in<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          all the other
                                                          regions of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          world).</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Not having an abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          means more
                                                          chances of
                                                          legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          actions, more
                                                          cost, for both
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          victims and
                                                          the ISPs.
                                                          Having<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that means
                                                          that you have
                                                          more<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          chances to
                                                          resolve it in<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          goodfaith.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">One of the *<b>most<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          important</b>*
                                                          Afrinic<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          missions is to
                                                          have accuracy
                                                          on<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the database,
                                                          which includes<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          accuracy on
                                                          the contacts.
                                                          We are<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not fulfilling
                                                          that in this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          situation.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Remember that *<b>all</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the other RIRs
                                                          have already
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          kind of
                                                          policy. This
                                                          one is like<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the one that
                                                          has been<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          implemented in
                                                          APNIC, and the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          accuracy of
                                                          the contacts
                                                          is now<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          87.5% as
                                                          reported this
                                                          month in<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the last APNIC
                                                          meeting. In
                                                          that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          report *<b>none</b>*
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          members
                                                          indicated any
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          issues that
                                                          you indicated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (didn't
                                                          happened as
                                                          well in the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          other
                                                          regions).</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">You know who is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          interested in
                                                          not having
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts?
                                                          Those that use
                                                          their<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks for
                                                          doing abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (hijacking,
                                                          spam, DoS,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          intrusions,
                                                          etc.).</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Can you explain if<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the network
                                                          that you
                                                          operate has<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an abuse
                                                          contact an how
                                                          if one<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of your
                                                          customes is
                                                          trying to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          penetrate my
                                                          network or do
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          DoS, I will be
                                                          able to
                                                          contact<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you and if you
                                                          will do
                                                          anything<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          or just ignore
                                                          it?</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt
                                                          none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Jordi</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt
                                                          none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm"
                                                          lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt
                                                          none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">El<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          17/9/20 2:21,
                                                          "lucilla
                                                          fornaro"<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="border:1pt none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</span></a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Dear<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          all,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have some
                                                          concerns about
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “Abuse Contact
                                                          Policy”.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">First<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of all, it
                                                          does not offer
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          specific and
                                                          regulated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          description of
                                                          the term<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “abuse”  and
                                                          this opens the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          door to
                                                          potentially
                                                          bigger<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          problems: a
                                                          surplus of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          reports,
                                                          discrimination/legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          issues, and a
                                                          waste of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          resources.
                                                          Around the
                                                          world,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          we can
                                                          perceive what
                                                          abuse is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in very
                                                          different
                                                          ways.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Afrinic<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not
                                                          entitled to
                                                          force<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          members to
                                                          report abuses
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          most
                                                          importantly,
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          proposal does
                                                          not represent<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Afrinic’s
                                                          purpose.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          therefore,
                                                          oppose this
                                                          policy.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Thank<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:106.2pt">Le jeu.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  17 sept. 2020 à 15:49,
                                                  JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
                                                  via<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  RPD <<a
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                                                  <br>
                                                  a écrit :</p>
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style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Lamiaa,</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">I’ve<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        said this
                                                        already. This
                                                        policy doesn’t<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        enforce abuse,
                                                        it enforces that
                                                        the abuse<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        contact is
                                                        there, and
                                                        works.</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Today<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        AFRINIC is
                                                        paying for the
                                                        cost of the
                                                        abuse<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        handling because
                                                        only a tiny
                                                        fraction of the<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        members has the
                                                        abuse contacts
                                                        in place.</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">If
                                                        the<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        contacts in the
                                                        RIR database
                                                        aren’t actual<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        and accurate,
                                                        this is a clear
                                                        violation of<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        the RSA. So what
                                                        is unacceptable
                                                        is not<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        having the
                                                        contacts, not on
                                                        the other way<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        around.</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Abuse
                                                        is<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        not defined by
                                                        the RIRs,
                                                        everybody knows
                                                        it<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        and this is the
                                                        reason why NONE
                                                        of the RIRs<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        have re-defined
                                                        it, because it
                                                        is already<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        stated in
                                                        RFC2142. Can you
                                                        justify why<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        AFRINIC is
                                                        different and
                                                        need a
                                                        definition?</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">How
                                                        you<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        define it in the
                                                        networks that
                                                        you operate?</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <div>
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                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
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                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Jordi</span></p>
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                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">El 17/9/20<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          10:49, "Lamiaa
                                                          Chnayti" <<a
href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">Hello,</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"> </p>
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                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          will have to
                                                          agree with
                                                          Lucilla on
                                                          what<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          she said and
                                                          would like to
                                                          add to it that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          :</span></p>
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                                                      <p
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Firstly, Abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforcement is
                                                          out of scope
                                                          for RIRs.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Secondly, RIRs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have no
                                                          ability to
                                                          define what is
                                                          “abuse”,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          one abuse or
                                                          even criminal
                                                          activity could<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          be entirely a
                                                          legal
                                                          operation in a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          different
                                                          jurisdiction.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Finally, making<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a member
                                                          forcefully
                                                          reply to abuse
                                                          contact<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Emails are a
                                                          waste of
                                                          resources and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          totally
                                                          pointless, it
                                                          is entirely up
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the member to
                                                          define what
                                                          they think is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          acceptable in
                                                          their network
                                                          operation and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          how they react
                                                          to it. AFRINIC
                                                          has no<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mandate to
                                                          force any
                                                          member to
                                                          reply to an<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “abuse”, since
                                                          AFRINIC
                                                          doesn’t even
                                                          have<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the ability to
                                                          identify what
                                                          is considered<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Therefore the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          entire policy
                                                          is out of
                                                          scope for the
                                                          RIR<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operation.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Regards,</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Lamiaa</span></p>
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                                                      <pre style="margin-left:161.1pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:rgb(21,21,21)"> </span></pre>
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                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt">Le jeu. 17<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sept. 2020
                                                          à 07:42, JORDI
                                                          PALET MARTINEZ<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a écrit :</p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lucilla,</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Today<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          we already
                                                          have mnt-IRT,
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          everybody who
                                                          operate
                                                          networks<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          understand
                                                          what it is an
                                                          abuse. If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you operate
                                                          networks you
                                                          know that *<b>anything</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          which is a
                                                          non-authorized
                                                          use of a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          network is an
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you send spam,
                                                          attack
                                                          networks, try<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to intrude
                                                          networks,
                                                          etc., all
                                                          those<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          are abuse.</span></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">What<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the policy ask
                                                          is to make
                                                          sure that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in AFRINIC
                                                          everybody has
                                                          an abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact (today
                                                          we have
                                                          mnt-IRT, but<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not
                                                          mandatory, and
                                                          as a results<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          many African
                                                          networks are
                                                          filtered<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          because lack
                                                          of that – and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          consequently
                                                          they do not
                                                          respond to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse cases -,
                                                          which exist in
                                                          all<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the other
                                                          regions of the
                                                          world).</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Not
                                                          having an
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          means more
                                                          chances of
                                                          legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          actions, more
                                                          cost, for both
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          victims and
                                                          the ISPs.
                                                          Having that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          means that you
                                                          have more
                                                          chances<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to resolve it
                                                          in goodfaith.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">One
                                                          of the *<b>most<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          important</b>*
                                                          Afrinic
                                                          missions<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is to have
                                                          accuracy on
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          database,
                                                          which includes
                                                          accuracy<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          on the
                                                          contacts. We
                                                          are not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fulfilling
                                                          that in this
                                                          situation.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Remember
                                                          that *<b>all</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the other RIRs
                                                          have already
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          kind of
                                                          policy. This
                                                          one is like<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the one that
                                                          has been
                                                          implemented<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in APNIC, and
                                                          the accuracy
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts is
                                                          now 87.5% as
                                                          reported<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          this month in
                                                          the last APNIC<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          meeting. In
                                                          that report *<b>none</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the members
                                                          indicated any
                                                          of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the issues
                                                          that you
                                                          indicated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (didn't
                                                          happened as
                                                          well in the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          other
                                                          regions).</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">You
                                                          know who is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          interested in
                                                          not having
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts?
                                                          Those that use
                                                          their<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks for
                                                          doing abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (hijacking,
                                                          spam, DoS,
                                                          intrusions,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          etc.).</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Can
                                                          you explain if<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the network
                                                          that you
                                                          operate has<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an abuse
                                                          contact an how
                                                          if one of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          your customes
                                                          is trying to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          penetrate my
                                                          network or do
                                                          a DoS,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I will be able
                                                          to contact you
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          if you will do
                                                          anything or
                                                          just<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ignore it?</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Jordi</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">El<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          17/9/20 2:21,
                                                          "lucilla
                                                          fornaro"<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Dear<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          all,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have some
                                                          concerns about
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “Abuse Contact
                                                          Policy”.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">First<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of all, it
                                                          does not offer
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          specific and
                                                          regulated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          description of
                                                          the term
                                                          “abuse”<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           and this
                                                          opens the door
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          potentially
                                                          bigger
                                                          problems: a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          surplus of
                                                          reports,<br>
                                                          <br>
discrimination/legal issues, and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a waste of
                                                          resources.
                                                          Around the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          world, we can
                                                          perceive what<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse is in
                                                          very different
                                                          ways.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Afrinic<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not
                                                          entitled to
                                                          force members<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to report
                                                          abuses and
                                                          most<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          importantly,
                                                          this proposal
                                                          does<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not represent
                                                          Afrinic’s
                                                          purpose.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          therefore,
                                                          oppose this
                                                          policy.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Thank<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Lucilla </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:177pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          list <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
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                                                          <br>
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                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><br>
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                                                          intended
                                                          recipient be
                                                          aware<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that any
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of the
                                                          contents of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          this
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited,
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          criminal
                                                          offense, so
                                                          you must reply
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the original
                                                          sender to
                                                          inform about
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          and delete it.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD mailing
                                                          list<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </blockquote>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    </div>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
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                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    IPv4 is over<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Are you ready for
                                                    the new Internet ?<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <a
                                                      href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    The IPv6 Company<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    This electronic
                                                    message contains
                                                    information<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    which may be
                                                    privileged or
                                                    confidential. The<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    information is
                                                    intended to be for
                                                    the exclusive<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    use of the
                                                    individual(s) named
                                                    above and further<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    non-explicilty
                                                    authorized
                                                    disclosure, copying,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    distribution or use
                                                    of the contents of
                                                    this<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    information, even if
                                                    partially, including<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    attached files, is
                                                    strictly prohibited
                                                    and will<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    be considered a
                                                    criminal offense. If
                                                    you are not<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    the intended
                                                    recipient be aware
                                                    that any<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    disclosure, copying,
                                                    distribution or use
                                                    of the<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    contents of this
                                                    information, even if
                                                    partially,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    including attached
                                                    files, is strictly<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    prohibited, will be
                                                    considered a
                                                    criminal<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    offense, so you must
                                                    reply to the
                                                    original<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    sender to inform
                                                    about this
                                                    communication and<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    delete it.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  RPD mailing list<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <a
                                                    href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <a
                                                    href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              </blockquote>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-left:106.2pt">--
                                          </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Lamiaa<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          CHNAYTI</span></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              </div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          IPv4 is over<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Are you ready for the new
                                          Internet ?<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <a
                                            href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          The IPv6 Company<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          This electronic message
                                          contains information which may
                                          be<br>
                                          <br>
                                          privileged or confidential.
                                          The information is intended to<br>
                                          <br>
                                          be for the exclusive use of
                                          the individual(s) named above<br>
                                          <br>
                                          and further non-explicilty
                                          authorized disclosure,
                                          copying,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          distribution or use of the
                                          contents of this information,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          even if partially, including
                                          attached files, is strictly<br>
                                          <br>
                                          prohibited and will be
                                          considered a criminal offense.
                                          If you<br>
                                          <br>
                                          are not the intended recipient
                                          be aware that any disclosure,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          copying, distribution or use
                                          of the contents of this<br>
                                          <br>
                                          information, even if
                                          partially, including attached
                                          files, is<br>
                                          <br>
                                          strictly prohibited, will be
                                          considered a criminal offense,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          so you must reply to the
                                          original sender to inform
                                          about<br>
                                          <br>
                                          this communication and delete
                                          it.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                        <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        RPD mailing list<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <a
                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                  </p>
                                  <pre style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt">_______________________________________________

RPD mailing list

<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a>

<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></pre>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                <br>
                                RPD mailing list<br>
                                <br>
                                <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                <br>
                                <a
                                  href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                            </blockquote>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:70.8pt">--
                        </p>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Lamiaa CHNAYTI</span></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:70.8pt">_______________________________________________
                          RPD mailing list <a
                            href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a>
                          <a
                            href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
                        </p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><br>
                        **********************************************<br>
                        IPv4 is over<br>
                        Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
                        <a href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                        The IPv6 Company<br>
                        <br>
                        This electronic message contains information
                        which may be privileged or confidential. The
                        information is intended to be for the exclusive
                        use of the individual(s) named above and further
                        non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying,
                        distribution or use of the contents of this
                        information, even if partially, including
                        attached files, is strictly prohibited and will
                        be considered a criminal offense. If you are not
                        the intended recipient be aware that any
                        disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the
                        contents of this information, even if partially,
                        including attached files, is strictly
                        prohibited, will be considered a criminal
                        offense, so you must reply to the original
                        sender to inform about this communication and
                        delete it.</p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                      RPD mailing list<br>
                      <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                      <a
                        href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                  </blockquote>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br>
              **********************************************<br>
              IPv4 is over<br>
              Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
              <a href="http://www.theipv6company.com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
              The IPv6 Company<br>
              <br>
              This electronic message contains information which may be
              privileged or confidential. The information is intended to
              be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above
              and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying,
              distribution or use of the contents of this information,
              even if partially, including attached files, is strictly
              prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If
              you are not the intended recipient be aware that any
              disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents
              of this information, even if partially, including attached
              files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a
              criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender
              to inform about this communication and delete it.<br>
              <br>
            </div>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            RPD mailing list<br>
            <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
            <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
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        <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
RPD mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
RPD mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
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