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    <p>Then my understanding of her email was very much incorrect.  But
      I'm not convinced.<br>
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      I do agree that Afrinic cannot, as a matter of impracticality,
      dictate the subject lines that anyone sends to those abuse
      contacts.  But neither do I see that this policy is attempting to
      enforce this.</p>
    <p>I am of course assuming that we're all talking about
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2018-gen-001-d6#proposal">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2018-gen-001-d6#proposal</a></p>
    <p>What is stated is that the mailbox shouldn't be filtered to only
      receive from Afrinic, or a specific subject, or content -
      presumably to filter out all but the Afrinic verification emails. 
      Which makes sense.</p>
    <p>Further, I do agree, a bad network should be isolated, this
      policy doesn't preclude that.  I do think that, as a network
      operator, we'd actually prefer to have some kind of contact and
      trying to confirm if an "abuse" issue is something that can
      perhaps be sorted out, rather than taking drastic measures (which
      may potentially be required, but then possibly lifted again).  If
      one of my customers goes ape and causes abuse for some other
      network, I'd rather be made aware so that we can sort out the
      problem (to every ones benefit).</p>
    <p>I'm failing to see how any of the originals objections to this
      policy carries weight, so please do explain this to me.  These
      objections were:<br>
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      1.  No definition of abuse.  Ok, so we're all clear that this
      varies, but as many pointed out, the purpose is to deal with abuse
      requests ideally before they escalate (ie, save resources down the
      line), so you can simply respond stating you don't consider it
      abuse as per your reasoning.</p>
    <p>2.  enforcing is abuse is outside of scope of the RIR.  Agreed. 
      Neither is the policy looking to place that in scope.  Policy is
      about being able to contact someone at a different network
      regarding perceived abuse.  The parties are still responsible for
      sorting that out, not Afrinic.</p>
    <p>3.  Waste of resources - compared to what?  I believe (and as
      I've stated in a previous email) this will generally result in an
      overall reduction in resources spent.  This is debatable but I
      personally don't think this should stop the policy proposal.  Also
      see point 1.<br>
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    <p>Kind Regards,<br>
      Jaco</p>
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    <p> On 2020/09/22 16:23, Gaby Giner wrote:<br>
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            <div>I think the confusion with Lamiaa stems from whether
              she disagrees to have an abuse contact or not. She never
              disagreed to have an abuse contact, rather she disagrees
              with AFRINIC being the one to decide what subject line a
              network should reply to. A bad/faulty network should be
              isolated - but that is not an address policy issue. For
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              7:50 PM Fernando Frediani <<a
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                <p>Every day I get surprised with the amount of effort
                  people put into not making something instead of making
                  something that works for a collaborative place that
                  must be the Internet.</p>
                <p>AfriNic PDP defines the rules resources are
                  registered in its whois database and it may wish to
                  choose not to register anymore bad netizens which may
                  be using the resources it received from the RIR in a
                  bad manner making the Internet a worst place.</p>
                <p>Fernando<br>
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                <div>On 22/09/2020 08:29, Jaco Kroon wrote:<br>
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                  On 2020/09/22 10:32, Lamiaa Chnayti wrote:<br>
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                                            choose NOT TO REPLY, this is
                                            my network, and I decide how
                                            I want to run it. Everyday I
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                                            a folder called spam, and it
                                            is entirely up to me to
                                            decide IN MY NETWORK what I
                                            consider spam. I think you
                                            fundamentally mix up the
                                            concept of "management of IP
                                            address registration" with
                                            "management of network".
                                            AFRINIC only has a mandate
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                  <p>No.  I suspect Jordi knows a fair amount of the
                    difference.  More so than most.<br>
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                  <p>Nobody is asking Afrinic to manage any networks. 
                    We're asking them to help those of that want to be
                    good netizens to enable us to do that, by ensuring
                    that contact can be made with other networks for the
                    purposes of resolving abuse related problems.  My
                    experience says that usually these disputes are
                    between customers of ISPs but they insist that the
                    ISPs should do something about it.  So short of me
                    dropping your entire set of prefixes, I'd prefer to
                    be able to make contact with you in order to look
                    for a resolution.  Personally, I'm not worried about
                    screaming insults and the like, those or nitty
                    gritty issues people should sort out themselves, but
                    what happens if a customer of yours is actively
                    trying to hack on of mine?  Or the other way
                    around?  Would you prefer we all just drop each
                    other's routes and never actually resolve anything?<br>
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                                            back very hard in RIPE.
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                  <p>I am sorry, in my opinion you're out of line here,
                    that is bordering on a personal attack on Jordi,
                    we're all trying to make this Internet a better
                    place.  As is Jordi.  Whilst I do not agree with him
                    on everything, what is it to you have a single email
                    address that people can mail you on?  Honestly,
                    nobody said you're not allowed to filter spam on
                    that.  Again, you choose what is spam and not. 
                    We're asking you to be responsible.  Basically by
                    saying you refuse to publish an abuse contact you're
                    effectively being an elitist stating that your
                    network is so perfect that there is no reason anyone
                    would ever need to contact you in an attempt to
                    resolve a (probably) legitimate issue.<br>
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                  <p>My response to that would be:  So why should I
                    route your traffic?  Why shouldn't I just outright
                    reject all your prefixes?<br>
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                  <p>By enabling networks to contact each other via an
                    abuse contact it enables all of us to communicate
                    better, towards sorting out real issues.  If you
                    don't want to be part of the solution, my personal
                    opinion is that you should not form part of the
                    internet.  My opinion is that by making abuse
                    related contact more reliable we're improving the
                    overall networking landscape.  You're still welcome
                    to ignore contact you don't consider legitimate. 
                    But know that that leaves us few options if you do
                    ignore a legitimate issues.<br>
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                                            numbers, and they are done
                                            with AFRINIC from this point
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                  <p>No one is asking for confidential data.  We're
                    asking for a contact where we can make contact with
                    you in a case where of my customers and one of yours
                    have issues with each other, in order to get
                    problems / issues / disputes / whatever resolved
                    amicably instead of via lawyers, so by all means, if
                    you prefer me first suing Afrinic for your contact
                    details, and then suing you for damages + costs ...
                    guess we can go that route too.</p>
                  <p>Alternatively I can file abuse complaints against
                    you with your transit providers and if they agree
                    with me, it's not just one or two of your customers
                    that's going to face difficulty, it's going to be
                    all of them.</p>
                  <p>Either way, with an attitude like yours I'm fairly
                    certain not many people will think twice about
                    dropping your prefixes.<br>
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                                            internet and for the future
                                            of this region, we are not
                                            making policies for
                                            individual networks, but
                                            rather policies impacting
                                            billions of people's
                                            internet access, and it
                                            needs to be abundantly clear
                                            on what we can do and what
                                            is not for us to decide.
                                            Yes, you are right, all
                                            networks should be run
                                            responsively,  just like all
                                            your neighbors  shouldn't
                                            play loud music after 10pm,
                                            but that doesn't mean you
                                            can force your local church
                                            to arrest them and ban them
                                            from Sunday service. Same
                                            with abuse, if a network is
                                            running abusively, police
                                            will find them and shut them
                                            down--again, not AFRINIC's
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                    you're right.  This policy is for improving the
                    internet for billions of people, by enabling
                    networks to contact each other to resolve abuse
                    related issues such that the internet can remain an
                    open and friendly place by eliminating the
                    problems.  An abuse contact allows us to achieve
                    exactly that.  Without it, no one is going to
                    contact you regarding individual customers of yours,
                    enabling you to take action against your individual
                    customers, or to work with your customers to resolve
                    problems, they're going to track down your transit
                    providers, and they're going to get your entire
                    network isolated and de-routed.  You leave them no
                    other choices.<br>
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                                is about cooperation, I don’t think you
                                can choose “not to reply”. You can
                                choose “not to consider it an abuse”,
                                but not reply at all, in my opinion,
                                will be against the correct management
                                of the resources, which you’re bound as
                                an AFRINIC member. You can choose to no
                                reply to victims if they insist in
                                something that you told them is not an
                                abuse, that’s fine, but you must reply
                                to AFRINIC for the validation of any
                                data, whois, etc.</span></p>
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                                how you run your network, I’m trying to
                                understand your perspective, that’s it.</span></p>
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                                  style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 21/9/20
                                  14:46, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <<a
                                    href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>>
                                  escribió:</p>
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                                              <pre style="margin-left:54.9pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">And again you keep asking about my personal network and how I run it, and which is entirely irrelevant to this policy discussion. You can not disqualify people by disallowing anyone not running a network in this list, so what is your point? People discussing here who are running networks or not are none of anyone's business and is not relevant to the discussion of this policy.</span><span style="color:rgb(21,21,21)"></span></pre>
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                                  style="margin-left:35.4pt">Le lun. 21
                                  sept. 2020 à 10:00, JORDI PALET
                                  MARTINEZ via RPD <<a
                                    href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
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                                        lang="EN-US">8.3 and 8.4 are
                                        making sure that you respond to
                                        an abuse case, *<b>not</b>* that
                                        you *<b>recognize</b>* it as an
                                        abuse. It is your choice to tell
                                        the “victim ISP”, look for me
                                        this is not an abuse, so I will
                                        not do anything about it.</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">AFRINIC can’t
                                        verify this automatically,
                                        because it doesn’t make sense
                                        that AFRINIC is “sending” fake
                                        abuse reports to see if they get
                                        a response.</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">AFRINIC can only
                                        send an email for the validation
                                        of the mailbox. It is an
                                        existing mailbox? I’m getting a
                                        response (for example, have
                                        they, once I send the validation
                                        email, clicked the link or went
                                        into MyAfrinic to input the
                                        validation code?).</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">8.4 also states the
                                        timing for the validation.</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">8.5 is the
                                        validation itself, so I guess,
                                        according to your response, that
                                        you’re ok with this specific
                                        point. If we don’t have it,
                                        AFRINIC can’t do a periodic
                                        validation.</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">8.6. is making sure
                                        that you don’t try to fake the
                                        validation. For instance, you
                                        could respond only to AFRINIC
                                        validations and then discard all
                                        the other emails. If we don’t
                                        have that, the policy may become
                                        useless. Note also that in fact,
                                        if you follow the RSA, *<b>anyone</b>*
                                        could escalate *<b>any</b>* lack
                                        of CPM compliance. So this is
                                        making sure that the policy text
                                        is honest and transparent.</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">Or do you prefer to
                                        be filtered because you don’t
                                        respond?</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">Clearly this
                                        proposal is not asking AFRINIC
                                        to be a police. Is only making
                                        sure that the parties *<b>can
                                          talk</b>*. Again: AFRINIC will
                                        not be involved in “how you
                                        handle the case”, but I least
                                        you should be able to be
                                        contacted and respond.</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">If AK or Moses
                                        customers are sending me spam,
                                        or trying to intrude my network,
                                        and they have abuse contacts, I
                                        will be able to complain to
                                        them. Then we have two cases:</span></p>
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                                        style="color:black" lang="EN-US">1.</span><span
                                        lang="EN-US">   </span><span
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                                        lang="EN-US">Moses responds to
                                        me and say “you’re right, this
                                        is against our AUP” (is
                                        irrelevant what the law in Moses
                                        country say, it is the contract
                                        with customers what says what is
                                        allowed or not). Let’s fix it. I
                                        will warn the customer, and if
                                        they don’t stop, we will filter
                                        their email port, or even cancel
                                        the contract (just examples,
                                        only Moses can decide what they
                                        do).</span></p>
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                                        style="color:black" lang="EN-US">2.</span><span
                                        lang="EN-US">   </span><span
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                                        lang="EN-US">AK instead doesn’t
                                        care, or the mailbox is full or
                                        bouncing emails or respond
                                        “sorry in our network we allow
                                        that”. Then I can take my own
                                        decision, filter only that IP
                                        address, or the complete AK
                                        network. I can even see if this
                                        is allowed in his country and
                                        take legal actions (which
                                        usually you don’t do because is
                                        costly and more of the
                                        regulations don’t know
                                        “anything” about abuse or even
                                        Internet!).</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">AFRINIC will not
                                        take any measure if AK decides
                                        that is not an abuse. It is our
                                        problem not AFRINIC problem.
                                        However, if the email is
                                        bouncing, AFRINIC will
                                        revalidate the abuse-c and make
                                        sure that it works.</span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">Is like a phone
                                        book. You have there the phones
                                        and they must be correct, or you
                                        need to update them every “n”
                                        months. The phone book doesn’t
                                        tell the purpose of each phone.
                                        If you don’t want to accept
                                        calls related to “ordering
                                        pizzas”, you tell the caller
                                        “this number is not for that”,
                                        but at least you must pick up
                                        the phone otherwise, you don’t
                                        know if it is somebody calling
                                        by error or someone that you
                                        really want to talk. And this is
                                        true for *<b>every</b>* whois
                                        contact.</span></p>
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                                        how do you handle it in the
                                        networks that you operate?</span></p>
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                                          21/9/20 10:00, "Lamiaa
                                          Chnayti" <<a
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                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>>
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                                        think you are very confused. I
                                        never said I have a problem with
                                        people completing their
                                        registration. Keep
                                        registration---having an abuse
                                        contact Email in the whois, just
                                        like tech contact or admin
                                        contact--I am perfectly fine
                                        with it, and I think the current
                                        policy achieves 99% it, if you
                                        want to add this contact as
                                        mandatory field I am fine with
                                        it as well.</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-left:70.8pt"> But
                                        the problem of this policy in
                                        8.3-8.6, is that it requires
                                        AFRINIC to monitor the members
                                        HOW to manage their abuse
                                        mailbox down to the subject
                                        line,  and that is out of the
                                        scope of AFRINIC, just read my
                                        last email with logic in mind
                                        and you will understand. I
                                        suggest this policy should be
                                        very simple,  adding one line to
                                        the current policy-- abuse
                                        contact is mandatory, and it's
                                        done, everything else should be
                                        deleted.</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-left:70.8pt">And
                                        again, you are trying to use
                                        AFRINIC for something that is
                                        not in its scope, how someone
                                        manages their mailbox is not in
                                        the scope of AFRINIC, it is like
                                        you go to your local church to
                                        ask them to arrest your
                                        neighbour who plays loud music
                                        at night when you should go to
                                        police instead. Same thing for
                                        someone running an abusive
                                        network, as many already stated,
                                        it is up to a local Jury to
                                        decide if it is simply at an
                                        annoying level or a criminal
                                        offense, but either way please
                                        do go to your local police to
                                        report it.</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-left:70.8pt">As
                                        for the internet, we never tell
                                        you how to behave--you are
                                        entirely at your rights in the
                                        internet to behave abusively,
                                        but it is also entirely in
                                        everyone's rights to block you,
                                        that's how de-centralizing
                                        works, no central governing,
                                        everyone plays nice because
                                        that's the only way for everyone
                                        else to play with you, and this
                                        policy here asks AFRINIC to act
                                        like a central government even
                                        down to manage people's
                                        mailbox's subject line and that
                                        is way beyond what internet
                                        meant to be.</p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-left:70.8pt">Le dim.
                                            20 sept. 2020 à 23:42,
                                            Fernando Frediani <<a
                                              href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>
                                            a écrit :</p>
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                                              On 19/09/2020 13:19,
                                              Lamiaa Chnayti wrote:<br>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
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                                                          <pre style="margin-right:19.5pt;margin-left:70.8pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">How is it in the scope of AFRINIC to decide how I manage my abuse mailbox? If I want to reply only to a specific subject line of my abuse box, it is entirely in my right to do. Even if I don't want to reply at the abuse mailbox at all, that is my right to do so and if I think no action in my network would be considered abuse (although unlikely), but it is still from  the internet community point of view, entirely in my right to do so. You might choose to block me as a network, but that is also your right. </span></pre>
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                                                          <pre style="margin-right:19.5pt;margin-left:70.8pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US"> </span></pre>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <pre style="margin-right:19.5pt;margin-left:70.8pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">The reason internet is called INTER-NET is because of its decentralized nature, you have to play nice for others to play with you, but this community never forces anyone to play nice, it is not in the scope of AFRINIC to decide how members reply to their abuse mailbox, so if 8.3,8.4, 8.5 and 8.6 are deleted in its entirety, I might consider supporting it. Also Jordi, I feel you always have this central management type of thinking, and that is so not internet.</span></pre>
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                                              <br>
                                            </p>
                                            <p
                                              style="margin-left:70.8pt">It
                                              is not in the scope of any
                                              RIR how anyone manage
                                              people's<br>
                                              <br>
                                              mailboxes.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Nobody exists alone in the
                                              Internet. If an
                                              organization<br>
                                              <br>
                                              hypothetically doesn't
                                              care at all and refuses to
                                              respond to abuse<br>
                                              <br>
                                              emails it probably should
                                              re-think its existence in
                                              the Internet<br>
                                              <br>
                                              business.</p>
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                                            <p
                                              style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt">The
                                              Internet is what is among
                                              many reasons because of
                                              the<br>
                                              <br>
                                              cooperation among its
                                              organizations, and there
                                              are certain rules<br>
                                              <br>
                                              that are agreed
                                              cooperatively and must be
                                              observed by everyone<br>
                                              <br>
                                              willing remain on it,
                                              otherwise it may in many
                                              cases cause serious<br>
                                              <br>
                                              damage to those willing to
                                              operate in serious manner
                                              and keep it a<br>
                                              <br>
                                              healthy place to most
                                              people who depend on it.</p>
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                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            <p
                                              style="margin-left:70.8pt">This
                                              forum is about setting
                                              rules on how registration
                                              information<br>
                                              <br>
                                              about resources are kept
                                              and it may be of the wish
                                              of the<br>
                                              <br>
                                              community to refuse keep
                                              registration for those who
                                              repetitively<br>
                                              <br>
                                              abuse of their individual
                                              rights.</p>
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                                                          <pre style="margin-right:19.5pt;margin-left:70.8pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></pre>
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                                                          <pre style="margin-right:19.5pt;margin-left:70.8pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">Lamiaa</span></pre>
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                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt">Le ven.
                                                    18 sept. 2020
                                                    à 09:23,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
                                                    via RPD <<a
                                                      href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
                                                    a écrit :</p>
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                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Hi
                                                          Lamiaa,</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">I
                                                          don’t agree.
                                                          Internet
                                                          doesn't depend
                                                          on<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          any
                                                          jurisdiction;
                                                          abuse is about
                                                          what I (the
                                                          victim<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operator)
                                                          consider
                                                          abuse. The RFC
                                                          is clear about
                                                          that,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in short
                                                          “Inappropriate
                                                          public
                                                          behaviour” (is
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mailbox so to
                                                          be able to
                                                          contact in
                                                          case there is
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          possible
                                                          inappropriate
                                                          behaviour in
                                                          the public<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Internet). If
                                                          you want a
                                                          clearer
                                                          definition,
                                                          abuse is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          *<b>anything</b>*
                                                          that I don’t
                                                          want to accept
                                                          in my<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          network
                                                          because is in
                                                          any way
                                                          damaging it.</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">If
                                                          I don’t want
                                                          to accept a
                                                          DoS, or spam,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          or phising,
                                                          DMCA, or
                                                          whatever, this
                                                          is abuse *<b>for<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          me</b>*. I’ve
                                                          the right to
                                                          tell you
                                                          because that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse is
                                                          coming from
                                                          your network.
                                                          If you believe
                                                          that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not abuse
                                                          (and here is
                                                          your
                                                          jurisdiction
                                                          in some<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          cases, in
                                                          other just
                                                          doesn’t exist,
                                                          but it may be
                                                          also<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          your
                                                          “business”
                                                          decision –
                                                          like operators
                                                          that don’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          care if their
                                                          customers do
                                                          spam or
                                                          intrusion<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          attempts),
                                                          you’ve the
                                                          right to tell
                                                          me “sorry,
                                                          this is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not abuse for
                                                          us”, and then
                                                          I’ve the right
                                                          to decide<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          if I should
                                                          filter your
                                                          network based
                                                          on your<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          response.</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Not
                                                          having an
                                                          abuse contact,
                                                          means that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I’m not able
                                                          to contact
                                                          you, so we
                                                          can’t talk, we<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          can’t
                                                          investigate or
                                                          agree if it is
                                                          an abuse or
                                                          not,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          so you (the
                                                          offender
                                                          operator)
                                                          don’t have the
                                                          chance<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to decide
                                                          about it! Is
                                                          bad for you,
                                                          is bad for me.
                                                          In<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          those cases,
                                                          my best choice
                                                          is to filter
                                                          you. This<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          create
                                                          problems for
                                                          your customers
                                                          and my
                                                          customers.</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">We
                                                          can’t depend
                                                          on
                                                          jurisdictions,
                                                          because<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          then the
                                                          policy will
                                                          need to
                                                          consider
                                                          inter-relations<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          among every
                                                          possible
                                                          “pairs” of
                                                          country
                                                          worlds, and we<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          will need to
                                                          update the
                                                          policy based
                                                          on any<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          jurisdiction
                                                          change. The
                                                          policy is not
                                                          about that, is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          about having a
                                                          valid
                                                          responsible
                                                          contact, not
                                                          about<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          deciding what
                                                          is an abuse,
                                                          which is among
                                                          the two<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          parties.</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Tell
                                                          me what is
                                                          different from
                                                          AFRINIC<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          than the rest
                                                          of the world,
                                                          because none
                                                          of the RIRs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have defined
                                                          abuse in their
                                                          policies. I
                                                          even don’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          recall that
                                                          having
                                                          appeared in
                                                          the
                                                          discussions!</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you want, I’m
                                                          happy to
                                                          change the
                                                          title of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          proposal to
                                                          “supposed
                                                          abuse
                                                          contact”, that
                                                          may be<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          clearing your
                                                          point?</span></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Again,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          this is not
                                                          about defining
                                                          what is abuse,
                                                          this is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          among the
                                                          parties. It is
                                                          about making
                                                          sure that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          there is a
                                                          valid
                                                          responsible
                                                          contact in
                                                          case of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          anyone needs
                                                          to report what
                                                          he considers
                                                          an abuse.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          AFRINIC will
                                                          not punish
                                                          anyone that
                                                          believes that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          his customer
                                                          is not doing
                                                          an abuse
                                                          because in his<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          country is not
                                                          an abuse.</span></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Jordi</span></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">El<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          18/9/20 9:59,
                                                          "Lamiaa
                                                          Chnayti" <<a
href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">Hello<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Jordi,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">RFC2142<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          only defines a
                                                          tiny portion
                                                          of the network
                                                          abuse. In<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          real world
                                                          operation,
                                                          abuse consists
                                                          of a  much<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          boarder range
                                                          : DMCA(copy
                                                          rights)
                                                          claims,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          unsolicited
                                                          emails ,
                                                          phishing
                                                           websites ,
                                                          trade mark<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disputes etc. </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">All<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          those are
                                                          legal issues
                                                          that vary
                                                          vastly across<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          different
                                                          juridictions
                                                          in which no
                                                          one but each
                                                          of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the
                                                          juridiction’s
                                                          judges can
                                                          decide if it
                                                          is an<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse or an
                                                          illegal
                                                          activity.
                                                          Claiming that
                                                          RFC2142<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          defines not
                                                          even 1% of
                                                          real world
                                                          abuse is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          laughable.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">Regards,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:106.2pt">Le jeu.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          17 sept. 2020
                                                          à 15:51, JORDI
                                                          PALET MARTINEZ
                                                          via<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD <<a
                                                          href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a écrit :</p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lamiaa,</span></p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">I’ve<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          said this
                                                          already. This
                                                          policy doesn’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforce abuse,
                                                          it enforces
                                                          that the abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact is
                                                          there, and
                                                          works.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Today<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          paying for the
                                                          cost of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse handling
                                                          because only a
                                                          tiny<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fraction of
                                                          the members
                                                          has the abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts in
                                                          place.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the contacts
                                                          in the RIR
                                                          database
                                                          aren’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          actual and
                                                          accurate, this
                                                          is a clear<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          violation of
                                                          the RSA. So
                                                          what is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          unacceptable
                                                          is not having
                                                          the contacts,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not on the
                                                          other way
                                                          around.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not defined
                                                          by the RIRs,
                                                          everybody<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          knows it and
                                                          this is the
                                                          reason why
                                                          NONE<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the RIRs
                                                          have
                                                          re-defined it,
                                                          because it<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is already
                                                          stated in
                                                          RFC2142. Can
                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          justify why
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          different and
                                                          need<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a definition?</span></p>
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windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">How<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you define it
                                                          in the
                                                          networks that
                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operate?</span></p>
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windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">El 17/9/20<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          10:49, "Lamiaa
                                                          Chnayti" <<a
href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0cm">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</span></a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Hello,</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          will have to
                                                          agree with
                                                          Lucilla on
                                                          what<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          she said and
                                                          would like to
                                                          add to it<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that :</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Firstly, Abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforcement is
                                                          out of scope
                                                          for RIRs.</span></p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Secondly, RIRs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have no
                                                          ability to
                                                          define what is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “abuse”, one
                                                          abuse or even
                                                          criminal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          activity could
                                                          be entirely a
                                                          legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operation in a
                                                          different
                                                          jurisdiction.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Finally, making<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a member
                                                          forcefully
                                                          reply to abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact Emails
                                                          are a waste of
                                                          resources<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and totally
                                                          pointless, it
                                                          is entirely up<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to the member
                                                          to define what
                                                          they think<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is acceptable
                                                          in their
                                                          network
                                                          operation<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and how they
                                                          react to it.
                                                          AFRINIC has no<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mandate to
                                                          force any
                                                          member to
                                                          reply to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an “abuse”,
                                                          since AFRINIC
                                                          doesn’t even<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have the
                                                          ability to
                                                          identify what
                                                          is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          considered an
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Therefore the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          entire policy
                                                          is out of
                                                          scope for the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RIR operation.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Regards,</span></p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:12.7pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21);border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm">Lamiaa</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">Le jeu. 17<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sept. 2020
                                                          à 07:42, JORDI
                                                          PALET MARTINEZ<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0cm">rpd@afrinic.net</span></a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a écrit :</p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Hi Lucilla,</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Today we already have<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mnt-IRT, and
                                                          everybody who
                                                          operate<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks
                                                          understand
                                                          what it is an<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse. If you
                                                          operate
                                                          networks you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          know that *<b>anything</b>*
                                                          which<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is a
                                                          non-authorized
                                                          use of a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          network is an
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">If you send spam,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          attack
                                                          networks, try
                                                          to intrude<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks,
                                                          etc., all
                                                          those are<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">What the policy ask<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is to make
                                                          sure that in
                                                          AFRINIC<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          everybody has
                                                          an abuse
                                                          contact<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (today we have
                                                          mnt-IRT, but
                                                          is not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mandatory, and
                                                          as a results
                                                          many<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          African
                                                          networks are
                                                          filtered<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          because lack
                                                          of that – and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          consequently
                                                          they do not
                                                          respond<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to abuse cases
                                                          -, which exist
                                                          in<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          all the other
                                                          regions of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          world).</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Not having an abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          means more
                                                          chances of
                                                          legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          actions, more
                                                          cost, for both
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          victims and
                                                          the ISPs.
                                                          Having<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that means
                                                          that you have
                                                          more<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          chances to
                                                          resolve it in<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          goodfaith.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">One of the *<b>most<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          important</b>*
                                                          Afrinic<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          missions is to
                                                          have accuracy
                                                          on<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the database,
                                                          which includes<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          accuracy on
                                                          the contacts.
                                                          We are<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not fulfilling
                                                          that in this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          situation.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Remember that *<b>all</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the other RIRs
                                                          have already
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          kind of
                                                          policy. This
                                                          one is like<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the one that
                                                          has been<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          implemented in
                                                          APNIC, and the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          accuracy of
                                                          the contacts
                                                          is now<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          87.5% as
                                                          reported this
                                                          month in<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the last APNIC
                                                          meeting. In
                                                          that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          report *<b>none</b>*
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          members
                                                          indicated any
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          issues that
                                                          you indicated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (didn't
                                                          happened as
                                                          well in the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          other
                                                          regions).</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">You know who is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          interested in
                                                          not having
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts?
                                                          Those that use
                                                          their<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks for
                                                          doing abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (hijacking,
                                                          spam, DoS,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          intrusions,
                                                          etc.).</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Can you explain if<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the network
                                                          that you
                                                          operate has<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an abuse
                                                          contact an how
                                                          if one<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of your
                                                          customes is
                                                          trying to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          penetrate my
                                                          network or do
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          DoS, I will be
                                                          able to
                                                          contact<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you and if you
                                                          will do
                                                          anything<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          or just ignore
                                                          it?</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;border:1pt none
windowtext;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:177pt">El<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          17/9/20 2:21,
                                                          "lucilla
                                                          fornaro"<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="border:1pt none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</span></a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Dear<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          all,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have some
                                                          concerns about
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “Abuse Contact
                                                          Policy”.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">First<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of all, it
                                                          does not offer
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          specific and
                                                          regulated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          description of
                                                          the term<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “abuse”  and
                                                          this opens the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          door to
                                                          potentially
                                                          bigger<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          problems: a
                                                          surplus of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          reports,
                                                          discrimination/legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          issues, and a
                                                          waste of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          resources.
                                                          Around the
                                                          world,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          we can
                                                          perceive what
                                                          abuse is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in very
                                                          different
                                                          ways.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Afrinic<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not
                                                          entitled to
                                                          force<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          members to
                                                          report abuses
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          most
                                                          importantly,
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          proposal does
                                                          not represent<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Afrinic’s
                                                          purpose.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          therefore,
                                                          oppose this
                                                          policy.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Thank<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Lucilla </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">_______________________________________________<br>
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                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
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href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank"
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          IPv4 is over<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Are you ready
                                                          for the new
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                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">http://www.theipv6company.com</span></a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The IPv6
                                                          Company<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This
                                                          electronic
                                                          message
                                                          contains<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information
                                                          which may be
                                                          privileged or<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          confidential.
                                                          The
                                                          information is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          intended to be
                                                          for the
                                                          exclusive use<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the
                                                          individual(s)
                                                          named above
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          further
                                                          non-explicilty
                                                          authorized<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          use of the
                                                          contents of
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited and
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          criminal
                                                          offense. If
                                                          you are not
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          intended
                                                          recipient be
                                                          aware that any<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          use of the
                                                          contents of
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited,
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          criminal
                                                          offense, so
                                                          you must reply
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the original
                                                          sender to
                                                          inform about<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          this
                                                          communication
                                                          and delete it.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD mailing
                                                          list<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="border:1pt none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">RPD@afrinic.net</span></a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="border:1pt none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</span></a></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          IPv4 is over<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Are you ready
                                                          for the new
                                                          Internet ?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="http://www.theipv6company.com/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="border:1pt none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">http://www.theipv6company.com</span></a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The IPv6
                                                          Company<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This
                                                          electronic
                                                          message
                                                          contains
                                                          information<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          which may be
                                                          privileged or
                                                          confidential.
                                                          The<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information is
                                                          intended to be
                                                          for the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          exclusive use
                                                          of the
                                                          individual(s)
                                                          named above<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and further
                                                          non-explicilty
                                                          authorized<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the contents
                                                          of this
                                                          information,
                                                          even if<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          partially,
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          strictly
                                                          prohibited and
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          criminal
                                                          offense. If
                                                          you are not
                                                          the intended<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          recipient be
                                                          aware that any
                                                          disclosure,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of the
                                                          contents<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of this
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited,
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a
                                                          criminal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          offense, so
                                                          you must reply
                                                          to the
                                                          original<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sender to
                                                          inform about
                                                          this
                                                          communication
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          delete it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD mailing
                                                          list<br>
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="border:1pt none
                                                          windowtext;padding:0cm">RPD@afrinic.net</span></a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt">Le jeu.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          17 sept. 2020
                                                          à 15:49, JORDI
                                                          PALET MARTINEZ
                                                          via<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD <<a
                                                          href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a écrit :</p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lamiaa,</span></p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">I’ve<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          said this
                                                          already. This
                                                          policy doesn’t<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforce abuse,
                                                          it enforces
                                                          that the abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact is
                                                          there, and
                                                          works.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Today<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          paying for the
                                                          cost of the
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          handling
                                                          because only a
                                                          tiny fraction
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          members has
                                                          the abuse
                                                          contacts in
                                                          place.</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">If
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts in
                                                          the RIR
                                                          database
                                                          aren’t actual<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and accurate,
                                                          this is a
                                                          clear
                                                          violation of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the RSA. So
                                                          what is
                                                          unacceptable
                                                          is not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          having the
                                                          contacts, not
                                                          on the other
                                                          way<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          around.</span></p>
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style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Abuse
                                                          is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not defined by
                                                          the RIRs,
                                                          everybody
                                                          knows it<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          and this is
                                                          the reason why
                                                          NONE of the
                                                          RIRs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have
                                                          re-defined it,
                                                          because it is
                                                          already<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          stated in
                                                          RFC2142. Can
                                                          you justify
                                                          why<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          AFRINIC is
                                                          different and
                                                          need a
                                                          definition?</span></p>
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                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          define it in
                                                          the networks
                                                          that you
                                                          operate?</span></p>
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                                                          lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">El 17/9/20<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          10:49, "Lamiaa
                                                          Chnayti" <<a
href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
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style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">Hello,</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)" lang="EN-US">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          will have to
                                                          agree with
                                                          Lucilla on
                                                          what<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          she said and
                                                          would like to
                                                          add to it that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          :</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Firstly, Abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          enforcement is
                                                          out of scope
                                                          for RIRs.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Secondly, RIRs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have no
                                                          ability to
                                                          define what is
                                                          “abuse”,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          one abuse or
                                                          even criminal
                                                          activity could<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          be entirely a
                                                          legal
                                                          operation in a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          different
                                                          jurisdiction.</span></p>
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style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Finally, making<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a member
                                                          forcefully
                                                          reply to abuse
                                                          contact<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Emails are a
                                                          waste of
                                                          resources and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          totally
                                                          pointless, it
                                                          is entirely up
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the member to
                                                          define what
                                                          they think is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          acceptable in
                                                          their network
                                                          operation and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          how they react
                                                          to it. AFRINIC
                                                          has no<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          mandate to
                                                          force any
                                                          member to
                                                          reply to an<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “abuse”, since
                                                          AFRINIC
                                                          doesn’t even
                                                          have<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the ability to
                                                          identify what
                                                          is considered<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:8pt;margin-left:161.1pt;line-height:105%;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Therefore the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          entire policy
                                                          is out of
                                                          scope for the
                                                          RIR<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          operation.</span></p>
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style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,21,21)">Regards,</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt">Le jeu. 17<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sept. 2020
                                                          à 07:42, JORDI
                                                          PALET MARTINEZ<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a écrit :</p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lucilla,</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Today<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          we already
                                                          have mnt-IRT,
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          everybody who
                                                          operate
                                                          networks<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          understand
                                                          what it is an
                                                          abuse. If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you operate
                                                          networks you
                                                          know that *<b>anything</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          which is a
                                                          non-authorized
                                                          use of a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          network is an
                                                          abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">If<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you send spam,
                                                          attack
                                                          networks, try<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to intrude
                                                          networks,
                                                          etc., all
                                                          those<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          are abuse.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">What<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the policy ask
                                                          is to make
                                                          sure that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in AFRINIC
                                                          everybody has
                                                          an abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contact (today
                                                          we have
                                                          mnt-IRT, but<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not
                                                          mandatory, and
                                                          as a results<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          many African
                                                          networks are
                                                          filtered<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          because lack
                                                          of that – and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          consequently
                                                          they do not
                                                          respond to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse cases -,
                                                          which exist in
                                                          all<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the other
                                                          regions of the
                                                          world).</span></p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Not
                                                          having an
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          means more
                                                          chances of
                                                          legal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          actions, more
                                                          cost, for both
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          victims and
                                                          the ISPs.
                                                          Having that<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          means that you
                                                          have more
                                                          chances<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to resolve it
                                                          in goodfaith.</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">One
                                                          of the *<b>most<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          important</b>*
                                                          Afrinic
                                                          missions<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is to have
                                                          accuracy on
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          database,
                                                          which includes
                                                          accuracy<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          on the
                                                          contacts. We
                                                          are not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fulfilling
                                                          that in this
                                                          situation.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Remember
                                                          that *<b>all</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the other RIRs
                                                          have already
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          kind of
                                                          policy. This
                                                          one is like<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the one that
                                                          has been
                                                          implemented<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          in APNIC, and
                                                          the accuracy
                                                          of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts is
                                                          now 87.5% as
                                                          reported<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          this month in
                                                          the last APNIC<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          meeting. In
                                                          that report *<b>none</b>*<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the members
                                                          indicated any
                                                          of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the issues
                                                          that you
                                                          indicated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (didn't
                                                          happened as
                                                          well in the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          other
                                                          regions).</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
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                                                          lang="EN-US">You
                                                          know who is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          interested in
                                                          not having
                                                          abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contacts?
                                                          Those that use
                                                          their<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          networks for
                                                          doing abuse<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          (hijacking,
                                                          spam, DoS,
                                                          intrusions,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          etc.).</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:141.6pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Can
                                                          you explain if<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the network
                                                          that you
                                                          operate has<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          an abuse
                                                          contact an how
                                                          if one of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          your customes
                                                          is trying to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          penetrate my
                                                          network or do
                                                          a DoS,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I will be able
                                                          to contact you
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          if you will do
                                                          anything or
                                                          just<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ignore it?</span></p>
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                                                          lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
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                                                          lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
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                                                          lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-left:177pt">El<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          17/9/20 2:21,
                                                          "lucilla
                                                          fornaro"<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          escribió:</p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Dear<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          all,</p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          have some
                                                          concerns about
                                                          the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          “Abuse Contact
                                                          Policy”.</p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">First<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of all, it
                                                          does not offer
                                                          a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          specific and
                                                          regulated<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          description of
                                                          the term
                                                          “abuse”<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           and this
                                                          opens the door
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          potentially
                                                          bigger
                                                          problems: a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          surplus of
                                                          reports,<br>
                                                          <br>
discrimination/legal issues, and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          a waste of
                                                          resources.
                                                          Around the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          world, we can
                                                          perceive what<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          abuse is in
                                                          very different
                                                          ways.</p>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Afrinic<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          is not
                                                          entitled to
                                                          force members<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          to report
                                                          abuses and
                                                          most<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          importantly,
                                                          this proposal
                                                          does<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          not represent
                                                          Afrinic’s
                                                          purpose.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">I,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          therefore,
                                                          oppose this
                                                          policy.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Thank<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          you,</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:177pt">Lucilla </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:177pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD mailing
                                                          list <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:141.6pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          IPv4 is over<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Are you ready
                                                          for the new
                                                          Internet ?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The IPv6
                                                          Company<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This
                                                          electronic
                                                          message
                                                          contains<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information
                                                          which may be
                                                          privileged or<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          confidential.
                                                          The
                                                          information is<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          intended to be
                                                          for the
                                                          exclusive use
                                                          of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the
                                                          individual(s)
                                                          named above
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          further
                                                          non-explicilty
                                                          authorized<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of the
                                                          contents of
                                                          this
                                                          information,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,
                                                          including
                                                          attached<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly
                                                          prohibited and
                                                          will<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          be considered
                                                          a criminal
                                                          offense. If
                                                          you<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          are not the
                                                          intended
                                                          recipient be
                                                          aware<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that any
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of the
                                                          contents of<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          this
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited,
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          criminal
                                                          offense, so
                                                          you must reply
                                                          to<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the original
                                                          sender to
                                                          inform about
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          communication
                                                          and delete it.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:141.6pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD mailing
                                                          list<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          IPv4 is over<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Are you ready
                                                          for the new
                                                          Internet ?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The IPv6
                                                          Company<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This
                                                          electronic
                                                          message
                                                          contains
                                                          information<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          which may be
                                                          privileged or
                                                          confidential.
                                                          The<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information is
                                                          intended to be
                                                          for the
                                                          exclusive<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          use of the
                                                          individual(s)
                                                          named above
                                                          and further<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          non-explicilty
                                                          authorized
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of the
                                                          contents of
                                                          this<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,
                                                          including<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly
                                                          prohibited and
                                                          will<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          be considered
                                                          a criminal
                                                          offense. If
                                                          you are not<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          the intended
                                                          recipient be
                                                          aware that any<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          disclosure,
                                                          copying,
                                                          distribution
                                                          or use of the<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          contents of
                                                          this
                                                          information,
                                                          even if
                                                          partially,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          including
                                                          attached
                                                          files, is
                                                          strictly<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          prohibited,
                                                          will be
                                                          considered a
                                                          criminal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          offense, so
                                                          you must reply
                                                          to the
                                                          original<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          sender to
                                                          inform about
                                                          this
                                                          communication
                                                          and<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          delete it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          RPD mailing
                                                          list<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt">-- </p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Lamiaa<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          CHNAYTI</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:106.2pt"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
**********************************************<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      IPv4 is over<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Are you ready for
                                                      the new Internet ?<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <a
                                                        href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
                                                        target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      The IPv6 Company<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      This electronic
                                                      message contains
                                                      information which
                                                      may be<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      privileged or
                                                      confidential. The
                                                      information is
                                                      intended to<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      be for the
                                                      exclusive use of
                                                      the individual(s)
                                                      named above<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      and further
                                                      non-explicilty
                                                      authorized
                                                      disclosure,
                                                      copying,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      distribution or
                                                      use of the
                                                      contents of this
                                                      information,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      even if partially,
                                                      including attached
                                                      files, is strictly<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      prohibited and
                                                      will be considered
                                                      a criminal
                                                      offense. If you<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      are not the
                                                      intended recipient
                                                      be aware that any
                                                      disclosure,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      copying,
                                                      distribution or
                                                      use of the
                                                      contents of this<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      information, even
                                                      if partially,
                                                      including attached
                                                      files, is<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      strictly
                                                      prohibited, will
                                                      be considered a
                                                      criminal offense,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      so you must reply
                                                      to the original
                                                      sender to inform
                                                      about<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      this communication
                                                      and delete it.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                    </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                                    <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    RPD mailing list<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <a
                                                      href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <a
                                                      href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                              </div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                              </p>
                                              <pre style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt">_______________________________________________

RPD mailing list

<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a>

<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></pre>
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                                                style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                            <br>
                                            RPD mailing list<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <a
                                              href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <a
                                              href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                                        </blockquote>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-left:70.8pt">-- </p>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Lamiaa CHNAYTI</span></p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:70.8pt"> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-left:70.8pt">_______________________________________________
                                      RPD mailing list <a
                                        href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a>
                                      <a
                                        href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
                                    </p>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><br>
**********************************************<br>
                                    IPv4 is over<br>
                                    Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
                                    <a
                                      href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                                    The IPv6 Company<br>
                                    <br>
                                    This electronic message contains
                                    information which may be privileged
                                    or confidential. The information is
                                    intended to be for the exclusive use
                                    of the individual(s) named above and
                                    further non-explicilty authorized
                                    disclosure, copying, distribution or
                                    use of the contents of this
                                    information, even if partially,
                                    including attached files, is
                                    strictly prohibited and will be
                                    considered a criminal offense. If
                                    you are not the intended recipient
                                    be aware that any disclosure,
                                    copying, distribution or use of the
                                    contents of this information, even
                                    if partially, including attached
                                    files, is strictly prohibited, will
                                    be considered a criminal offense, so
                                    you must reply to the original
                                    sender to inform about this
                                    communication and delete it.</p>
                                </div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="margin-left:35.4pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                                  RPD mailing list<br>
                                  <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                  <a
                                    href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></p>
                              </blockquote>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                          **********************************************<br>
                          IPv4 is over<br>
                          Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
                          <a href="http://www.theipv6company.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
                          The IPv6 Company<br>
                          <br>
                          This electronic message contains information
                          which may be privileged or confidential. The
                          information is intended to be for the
                          exclusive use of the individual(s) named above
                          and further non-explicilty authorized
                          disclosure, copying, distribution or use of
                          the contents of this information, even if
                          partially, including attached files, is
                          strictly prohibited and will be considered a
                          criminal offense. If you are not the intended
                          recipient be aware that any disclosure,
                          copying, distribution or use of the contents
                          of this information, even if partially,
                          including attached files, is strictly
                          prohibited, will be considered a criminal
                          offense, so you must reply to the original
                          sender to inform about this communication and
                          delete it.<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        RPD mailing list<br>
                        <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                        <a
                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    <fieldset></fieldset>
                    <pre>_______________________________________________
RPD mailing list
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
</pre>
                  </blockquote>
                  <br>
                  <fieldset></fieldset>
                  <pre>_______________________________________________
RPD mailing list
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
</pre>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
              _______________________________________________<br>
              RPD mailing list<br>
              <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
              <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
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      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
RPD mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
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