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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hello list,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It is not true in all other RIRs that transferred addresses must lose legacy status.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We broker many sales from ARIN legacy space to RIPE members who register them at RIPE as legacy blocks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>And RIPE members can transfer legacy space without loss of status.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My company holds RIPE legacy space that was transferred to my LIR.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Considering that legacy space provides the bulk of transferred addresses, it makes sense to incentivize legacy space participation in the AFRINIC market.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I do support the addition of the two lines below, adding the 12 month wait (which is a largely ceremonial addition, IMO) and allowing legacy addresses to retain that status after transfer. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I look forward to the updated proposal making it through last-call and eventually being implemented, and congratulate the working group and the co-chairs for reaching this decision.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<br>Mike Burns<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>IPTrading.com<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>`<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 21, 2020 7:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> rpd List <rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Decisions and summary on policy proposals discussed during the online Policy meeting (AFRINIC 32)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Fernando,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>It was mentioned durring the PPM. Please watch the recordings.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Co-Chair<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 2:19 AM Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 20/09/2020 21:04, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><clip> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH>10. Resource Transfer Policy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH>This proposal aims to introduce Inter RIR transfer. However, it has the following opposition </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.25in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH>a. Issues with Legacy holder transfer is potentially considered none-reciprocal by ARIN</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:1.25in;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH>b. Potential abuse of AFRINIC free pool without the time limit of receiving an allocation from AFRINIC.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH>Chairs Decision: The proposal is the least contested of all the 3 competing proposals. However because of the community’s desire and clear expression for the need for an Inter RIR transfer, we, the Co-chairs, believe that in the interest of the community we should focus on a proposal rather than several similar ones. This desire was clearly expressed at the AFRINIC 31 meeting in Angola. Therefore, We suggest that the authors of this proposal make the following amendments: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH style='font-family:Symbol'>· </span><span lang=EN-PH>5.7.3.2 Source entities are not eligible to receive further IPv4 allocations or assignments from AFRINIC for 12 months period after the transfer.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH style='font-family:Symbol'>· </span><span lang=EN-PH>5.7.4.3. Transferred legacy resources will still be regarded as legacy resources.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><p><br>I don't remember during the discussion of this proposal someone making a point for legacy resources once transferred to remain with legacy status. It doesn't make sense at all.<br>In all RIRs I know any legacy resources once transferred looses the legacy status and that makes <b>a lot of sense</b> in order to end up with a historical distortion to the system and favor resources end up on organizations who really justify for them now a days.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Can the Co-Chairs point in which part of the discussion of this proposal this claim was made in order to consider that a rough consensus ? I have searched in the RPD Archives on the content of this discussion for months and couldn't find any mention to this point.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Thanks<br>Fernando<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH>Chairs Decision: Provided that the above are amended, the decisions is Rough Consensus is achieved </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-PH>Based on the above, The updated version of the follow proposal which achieved rough consensus would be posted on the PDWG website </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:106%'><b><span lang=EN-PH>1. 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