<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>The summary of proposals is enlightening and makes for a quick reference about what happened in the meeting. It makes it clear the objections to the policies that did not reach consensus. However, in the interest of fairness, I think it would be beneficial to the community also to see the transparent benefits of all the policies discussed. It would help streamline the cost-benefit analysis and decisions behind it. Some of the policies are just as polarizing as one can get, and it would help the community see how they arrived at a decision. </div><div><br></div><div>It is evident that the community acknowledges a need for inter RIR transfer policy, and I hope that the recommendations for the chosen policy would be adapted. </div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Sincerely, Gaby.</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:46 PM ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear Caleb,<div>This is Noted.</div><div>Thanks </div><div><br></div><div>Co-Chair PDWG</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:47 AM Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Dear Co-chairs, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Before I give detailed analysis of your report based on my personal view to the RPD list, can you state in a simple table for clarity sakes, the benefit of all the proposal as seen on the mailing list as well as discussions at the last meeting side by side with the opposed views you captured only. </div><div dir="auto">Rather what I see are lots of negativity / opposition rather than contributions of merit to help advance any policy by those who support it who aren't necessarily the authors. </div><div dir="auto">A quick count of the word <b><font color="#f44336">OPPOSITION</font></b> is reflected in every single proposal. I believe this will show a balanced view of how you all arrived at your decisions. </div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div dir="auto">Caleb Ogundele<br><br>________________<br><br>Sent with thumbs from a small screen mobile device. <br><br>Pelase exsuce typos adn errosr.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 2:22 AM Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-PH">This
proposal aims to
introduce Inter RIR
transfer. However, it
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Legacy holder
transfer is potentially
considered
none-reciprocal by ARIN</span></p>
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abuse of AFRINIC free
pool without the time
limit of receiving an
allocation from AFRINIC.</span></p>
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Decision: The proposal
is the least
contested of all the 3
competing proposals.
However because of the
community’s
desire and clear
expression for the need
for an Inter RIR
transfer, we, the
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in the interest of
the community we should
focus on a proposal
rather than several
similar ones.
This desire was clearly
expressed at the AFRINIC
31 meeting in Angola.
Therefore, We suggest
that the authors of this
proposal make the
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Source entities are not
eligible to receive
further IPv4 allocations
or assignments from
AFRINIC for 12 months
period after
the transfer.</span></p>
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Transferred legacy
resources will still be
regarded as legacy
resources.</span></p>
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I don't remember during the discussion of this proposal someone
making a point for legacy resources once transferred to remain
with legacy status. It doesn't make sense at all.<br>
In all RIRs I know any legacy resources once transferred looses
the legacy status and that makes <b>a lot of sense</b> in order
to end up with a historical distortion to the system and favor
resources end up on organizations who really justify for them now
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<p>Can the Co-Chairs point in which part of the discussion of this
proposal this claim was made in order to consider that a rough
consensus ? I have searched in the RPD Archives on the content of
this discussion for months and couldn't find any mention to this
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