<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>I have read the explanations of those supporting this policy and have had a few clarifications so thank you for that (centralization etc).</div><div><br></div><div>However, my main contention at the moment is the imperviousness of the current proposed policy when it comes to human/computer error when revoking the AS0 state. Maybe some clarifications here or change to the policy would help things be much more understandable.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Thanks, Gaby.</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:59 PM Haruna Umar Adoga <<a href="mailto:hartek66@gmail.com">hartek66@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<br><br>It takes time to revoke AS0 state for one IP address, not to mention many of the resources are allocated in blocks. So it will be extremely inconvenient to the end-users and ISPs if their network takes a very long period to “recover”. I am however not in support of this proposal.<br><br>Regards,<br>Haruna.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:51 PM Jaco Kroon <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" target="_blank">jaco@uls.co.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Hi,<br>
<p>To further this, RPKI helps us to validate routing
advertisements. It helps to keep all of us safer from route
high-jacks, accidental or not. Saying this policy is a bad idea
is the akin to saying you support fraud.<br>
<br>
Is it without risks? Of course not, but the overall risks to our
network environments are much smaller with it than without.<br>
<br>
Centralization? As others have pointed out: Afrinic already
manages the whois database which is being used to build IRR based
routing filters. This proposal does not grant Afrinic any more,
or less, control that what it currently has.<br>
</p>
<p>Kind Regards,<br>
Jaco<br>
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On 2020/09/17 08:27, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Hi Ekaterina,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Your
objection is untrue. AS0 doesn’t give more control to
AFRINIC, neither changes the impartiality. This was
resolved and explained several times already in the
previous discussion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">An error
can happen *<b>right now</b>* with the existing RPKI and
without this policy.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">However,
which this policy, as we now indicate that the AS0 should
be in a different TAL, the chances of an error in that TAL
are lower, because it is an opt-in service.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Jordi<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 16/9/20
23:18, "Ekaterina Kalugina" <<a href="mailto:kay.k.prof@gmail.com" target="_blank">kay.k.prof@gmail.com</a>>
escribió:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span>Dear all,</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Cambria,serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Cambria,serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span>I believe this policy would extend
AFRINIC's power way beyond its control. AFRINIC is a
registration entity and should not have authority over
RPKI. Having such would run the risk of Internet
centralization and undermine the legitimacy of AFRINIC as
an impartial institution.<br>
<br>
In addition, currently if there is a registration error,
it is just a registration error. However, if a
registration error occurs with RPKI AS0, people will
actually lose their connectivity.<br>
<br>
For these reasons, I oppose this policy.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Cambria,serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Cambria,serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span>Ekaterina Kay Kalugina</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Cambria,serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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