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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Thanks Mark. Could not have said it better myself.<br>
<br>
I'm also in support.<br>
<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
Jaco<br>
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<p>On 2020/09/17 10:12, Mark Elkins wrote:</p>
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<p>I agree with this policy (and as such, with Jordi). Automation
is almost always a good thing. I also try and automate as much
as possible so I get just get notified by exceptions - so I do
less work - and have a better system. Being a good citizen of
AFRINIC, I'd much prefer finding out something I am not
complying with via an automated system rather than having
AFRINIC staff wasting their time in talking to me about my
problem. When such a problem is reported to me, I expect it will
also point to appropriate solutions. I can then get on and
quietly fix the problem.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020/09/17 09:56, JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Hi Marius,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">The policy doesn’t change how AFRINIC operate
the services, just improve them, and what is more
important, tell AFRINIC, “you should automate it as much
as possible” and it is in the benefit of the community
(which is what is the PDP is for) because it provides
automated reports and notifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">To prove that your point is not necessarily
correct, some folks had the opinion, when I presented the
M&A proposal in the previous meeting, that it was an
“operational” issue. Now you agree with me that it is a
policy thing. It all depends on which lenses you look at
it, but the point is that the board has the last word. If
the board believes it an operational issue, then they will
bring back the proposal to the discussion or even suggest
that we withdraw it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Objecting with a personal opinion (“it is
operational”) is not a valid objection. Otherwise, anyone
can object to *<b>any</b>* policy proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Same
with the cost, can you demonstarte what is the cost of
doing manually this vs automating it? Just to prove your
point. And again note that if the cost were an issue
AFRINIC will tell us in the impact analysis “this is
going to double our buget, we will need 1.000 more
members, or increase the fees to pay for it”, which they
didn’t told. They just talked about more resources to
develop it (once), which needs to be compensated with
the savings once implemented (forever!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">And as
I already explained, the implementation can be done step
by step, not all the CPM in a single shoot, so the
resources can be split across several months or even
years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Last
but not least AFRINIC board has to ratify the policy.
That’s why cost is not part of the PDP discussion,
because the cost is membership, not community and the
board can bring back the policy to discussion if the
cost is not acceptable for the membership.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 17/9/20
9:34, "Marius Andioc via RPD" <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hi Frank,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Sorry I
should have maybe translated it in both languages! Here
is my point (Answering to previous messages) :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I oppose
this policy for two reasons. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Regarding
the nature of this proposal, it's just an operation
measure, a decision about how Afrinic operate and
provides service. I believe this is not part of our
prerogatives and we should focus on actual policies, not
deal with Afrinic's services/products. Deciding whether
we should transfer or not, how we should proceed with
M&A or the election process are policies, this
dashboard is a service, not part of internet
governance. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Concerning
the cost issue, I think contrary to what some have
raised, it is very much part of the issue. Rather than
saying that it's too costly or that it's absolute cost
is too high, it's about a cost/benefits point of view
that this policy is not worth it. Benefits are minor or
at least not proven to be more than something close to 0
as Afrinic is already doing the job. If the policy was
free of our constraint and we just had to tick a box on
an app almost no one would oppose it (even if results
are 0 it wouldn't cost any time, money, energy), but
it's not the case. And opting for a policy that has a
cost is also potentially depriving us of another one
over time, it's just about avoiding waste in a policy
that doesn't have much benefits. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I hope
this clarify things? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Thank you
for your question, I'll try to send my messages in both
languages as possible! <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Have an
excellent day, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Marius <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Le 17
sept. 2020 14:25, Frank Habicht <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz"
moz-do-not-send="true"><geier@geier.ne.tz></a>
a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">If I understand right
(Google translate...), then you say that<br>
- it is not for this PDWG, but AfriNIC staff
internally to decide<br>
- given funds, time and practical possibility, you
support this to be<br>
done<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">right?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Thanks,<br>
Frank<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">On 17/09/2020 04:35,
Marius Andioc via RPD wrote:<br>
> Bonjour, <br>
> <br>
> Concernant le coût, je pense qu'au contraire
celui-ci doit rentrer en<br>
> ligne de compte. Le principe d'un choix, d'un
trade off, est que nous<br>
> aurons à choisir une politique plutôt qu'une
autre (si ce n'est pas<br>
> immédiat c'est un choix entre cette politique
aujourd'hui et une autre<br>
> demain). <br>
> Les moyens d'AFRINIC ne sont pas illimités,
nous avons tout intérêt à<br>
> choisir avec prudence ce qui est réalisé. Ici
plus que le coût de<br>
> manière absolue, c'est le rapport coût/0 ou
très peu de bénéfice qui<br>
> m'évoque un simple gaspillage (de temps, de
moyens et d'énergie, pas<br>
> uniquement une question de coût chiffré). <br>
> Pour résumer : le coût en lui même n'est pas
tant un problème, mais le<br>
> rapport coût / bénéfice en est un. Si cette
politique ne nécessitait<br>
> qu'une case à cocher dans une application
pour se réaliser il n'y aurait<br>
> pas ou peu d'opposition. <br>
> Je souhaite enfin rajouter que les modalités
opérationnelles et les<br>
> services d'AFRINIC ne sont pas de notre
ressort. Nous devons nous<br>
> concentrer sur son rôle: celui de registre.
Cette proposition n'est pas<br>
> une politique mais une proposition
opérationnelle et elle n'a donc pas<br>
> grand chose à faire ici. <br>
> <br>
> Je vous souhaite une excellente journée, <br>
> <br>
> Marius Andioc <br>
> <br>
> Le 16 sept. 2020 22:58, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
via RPD <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
moz-do-not-send="true"><rpd@afrinic.net></a>
a<br>
> écrit :<br>
> <br>
> The RSA is an overall umbrella set by the
members, and is not complete.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The PDP is a higher-level set by the
community, as complete as we wish.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I think many participants still get
confused with that. The PDP<br>
> state what rules the community want to be
followed, verified, etc.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The PDP affects **all**, while the RSA
only affects members.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The community is on **top** of the
membership. So, the community is<br>
> free to agree on rules **over the RSA**,
especially when the RSA is<br>
> not sufficiently clear.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> And one more point that I was not able to
respond in the chat. The<br>
> PDP, and thus the policy proposals, can’t
consider **cost** (I<br>
> disagree that this will be a too high
cost), because the cost is a<br>
> matter of the membership. This is why the
**board** must ratify a<br>
> policy once it reaches consensus, because
if the board believes that<br>
> the cost is too high (vs the benefits),
they can bring the proposal<br>
> back to discussion to the community. So
“cost” (especially if not<br>
> demonstrated), can’t be accepted as a
valid objection towards<br>
> consensus. Otherwise, **any** member can
block **any** proposal from<br>
> the community **because of cost** (even
if untrue)!<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> <br>
> Jordi<br>
> <br>
> @jordipalet<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> El 16/9/20 15:44, "Eucharia Maryann" <<a
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> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:eucharianene@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:eucharianene@gmail.com></a>>
escribió:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> AFRINIC services are provided to members
under the umbrella of the<br>
> RSA mandate, which in turn ask for
compliance with policies. <br>
> <br>
> Those policies are documented in the CPM,
which is continuously<br>
> updated by the PDP.<br>
> <br>
> If the above actually already exist in
the RSA and in the CPM, then<br>
> what's the essence of this policy or is
it that we love repeating<br>
> same thing all the time or we are just
interested in having so many<br>
> duplicated policies and rules.<br>
> <br>
> Please I cannot see the relevance of this
policy. Thanks<br>
> <br>
> Simply Eucharia.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sep 16, 2020 13:00, <<a
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> PALET MARTINEZ <<a
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> Subject: Re: [rpd] Policy Compliance
Dashboard -<br>
> AFPUB-2020-GEN-001-DRAFT01<br>
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> Dear all,This "POLICY COMPLIANCE
DASHBOARD" seems to me a case<br>
> of misplaced priorities. It will
surely lead to complexities and<br>
> unnecessary dissipation of energy and
limited resources because<br>
> AFRINIC? should already be keeping
track of the policy<br>
> violation.?In essence, I DO NOT see
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