<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Jaco<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">While we must appreciate all inputs, I get very concerned when people who do not operate networks start talking about the operational resource issues involved in network operations.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If the concern was on a policy level, rather than operational - I would give it greater consideration.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just my 2c, no doubt will be flamed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mike<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Sep 2020, at 14:16, Jaco Kroon <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" class="">jaco@uls.co.za</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class=""><p class="">Hi,</p><p class="">Having been on the receiving side of identifiable sources of
"bad" traffic, and not being able to locate abuse contacts for the
origin network, I'm in support of this policy.</p><p class="">I would like to find out how this policy can conceivably lead to
any waste of resources? As I see it you need to make sure your
abuse contact details are published in the whois database.<br class="">
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Hooking this in with the dashboard policy, this is something that
can (and should be) checked automatically, further more, as per
ISPA checks in SA even validating that the emails are being read
and responded to by a human can be automated fairly quickly, and
hooked into any dashboard or automated notification system to
ensure that LIRs are aware of problems before Afrinic needs to get
involved.</p><p class="">In the bigger scheme of things, this policy is more likely to
save resources rather than waste them. If you've ever been on the
receiving end of things you'll know exactly what I mean.<br class="">
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Jaco<br class="">
</p><p class="">On 2020/09/17 11:44, Precious Paul wrote:</p>
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<div dir="auto" class="">As mentioned in the above points the resources
poured into this new version of the policy would most
likely lead to a huge waste of resources, which could and
should be used at other policies and parts of the
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<div class="">I have some concerns about the “Abuse Contact
Policy”.</div>
<div class="">First of all, it does not offer a specific and
regulated description of the term “abuse” and this
opens the door to potentially bigger problems: a
surplus of reports, discrimination/legal issues, and
a waste of resources. Around the world, we can
perceive what abuse is in very different ways.</div>
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<div class="">Afrinic is not entitled to force members to
report abuses and most importantly, this proposal
does not represent Afrinic’s purpose.</div>
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<div class="">I, therefore, oppose this policy.</div>
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