<div dir="ltr">One of the false arguments (in my opinion) made by the author of the IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope) proposal, is that new businesses are unable to get IP addresses, which is slowing down the growth of businesses in Africa. <br>If we can have statistics that supports this claim, it will be helpful, as I am not convinced that not having this policy is hindering IP assignments to businesses in our region. I am however not in support of this proposal in its current draft.<br><br>Regards,<br>Haruna. <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:31 AM Ahile shagba francis <<a href="mailto:ahilefranc@gmail.com">ahilefranc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Lets look at it from another point,</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">If it is the other region’s policy to be applied when the resources are transferred from that region,</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> it is then glaring that this could cause many confusions.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">We don't need to support such.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Let's be guided.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 11:15 AM <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Abuse Contact Policy (Precious Paul)<br>
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:44:20 +0100<br>
From: Precious Paul <<a href="mailto:preciousq43@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">preciousq43@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] Abuse Contact Policy<br>
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As mentioned in the above points the resources poured into this new version<br>
of the policy would most likely lead to a huge waste of resources, which<br>
could and should be used at other policies and parts of the organization<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
Precious Paul.<br>
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM lucilla fornaro <<br>
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> Dear all,<br>
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> I have some concerns about the ?Abuse Contact Policy?.<br>
> First of all, it does not offer a specific and regulated description of<br>
> the term ?abuse? and this opens the door to potentially bigger problems: a<br>
> surplus of reports, discrimination/legal issues, and a waste of resources.<br>
> Around the world, we can perceive what abuse is in very different ways.<br>
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> Afrinic is not entitled to force members to report abuses and most<br>
> importantly, this proposal does not represent Afrinic?s purpose.<br>
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> I, therefore, oppose this policy.<br>
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> Thank you,<br>
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> Lucilla<br>
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:51:12 +0100<br>
From: "Joshua J. Onuh" <<a href="mailto:jjamesonuh@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jjamesonuh@gmail.com</a>><br>
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The members should already have abuse contact or other ways to work it out<br>
if they really need it. So I think it is kind of redundant to have this<br>
policy.<br>
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 10:46, Precious Paul <<a href="mailto:preciousq43@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">preciousq43@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> As mentioned in the above points the resources poured into this new<br>
> version of the policy would most likely lead to a huge waste of resources,<br>
> which could and should be used at other policies and parts of the<br>
> organization<br>
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> Best Regards,<br>
> Precious Paul.<br>
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> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM lucilla fornaro <<br>
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>> Dear all,<br>
>><br>
>> I have some concerns about the ?Abuse Contact Policy?.<br>
>> First of all, it does not offer a specific and regulated description of<br>
>> the term ?abuse? and this opens the door to potentially bigger problems: a<br>
>> surplus of reports, discrimination/legal issues, and a waste of resources.<br>
>> Around the world, we can perceive what abuse is in very different ways.<br>
>><br>
>> Afrinic is not entitled to force members to report abuses and most<br>
>> importantly, this proposal does not represent Afrinic?s purpose.<br>
>><br>
>> I, therefore, oppose this policy.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thank you,<br>
>><br>
>> Lucilla<br>
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:10:13 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Topsy Bello <<a href="mailto:topsybello@yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">topsybello@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, Ekaterina<br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC<br>
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Hello<br>
the current state of the RPKI infrastructure does not provide a sufficient? period between revocation of ROA and notification that a given prefix has been allocated to an organisation which can have a huge effect on the allocation, i therefore do not agree with this policy<br>
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On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 10:15:01 PM GMT+1, Ekaterina Kalugina <<a href="mailto:kay.k.prof@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kay.k.prof@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>
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Dear all,<br>
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I believe this policy would extendAFRINIC's power way beyond its control. AFRINIC is a registration entity andshould not have authority over RPKI. Having such would run the risk of Internetcentralization and undermine the legitimacy of AFRINIC as an impartialinstitution.<br>
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In addition, currently if there is a registration error, it is just aregistration error. However, if a registration error occurs with RPKI AS0,people will actually lose their connectivity.<br>
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For these reasons, I oppose this policy.<br>
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Best wishes,<br>
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Ekaterina Kay Kalugina<br>
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