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<div style="direction: ltr;">Hello Jordi,</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">I think right now we should exclusively focusing on what is written on the proposal and for this reason I also believe that a consensus for a DPP already presented in a PPM still need a consensus at PPM and not from the RPD list.
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<div style="direction: ltr;">This way we can be sure that the open issue has been addressed properly, also with the support of the Co-chairs that will definitely facilitate the discussion. Very often on the mailing list we can find many opinions and not enough
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<div style="direction: ltr;">If an issue is not properly addressed we cannot reach any consensus, not even rough consensus because some big questions have been ignored or not properly discussed.
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<div style="direction: ltr;">The role of co-chairs is essential.</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>Da:</b> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Inviato:</b> Wednesday, September 16, 2020 4:32:32 PM<br>
<b>A:</b> rpd@afrinic.net <rpd@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [rpd] New Proposal Received | Simple PDP Update for the new “Normal” (Draft-1)</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Hi Cathie,<br>
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The actual practice in AFRINIC, as the chairs can confirm or you can check with videos from the previous meetings, they *look* at the mailing list to determine consensus. What we do with this proposal is to make sure that the PDP make it explicit.<br>
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In all the other RIRs the mailing list is also looked by the chairs to determine consensus.<br>
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So if you oppose to the proposal because that, then we should cancel all the consensus determination done during all the last years?<br>
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Jordi<br>
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El 16/9/20 9:19, "Cathie Jay" <cathie.kay89@gmail.com> escribió:<br>
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Dear Jordi, dear community,<br>
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I oppose this policy because of the way in which consensus is reached.<br>
The current policy stipulates that consensus should be reached through<br>
the balancing of the mailing list and forum, and not during the PPM.<br>
Such policy could pave the way for the intrusion of fake emails within<br>
the discussion, which could endanger the process of reaching a fair<br>
consensus, and jeopardize the process of policy-making. In addition,<br>
it would significantly undermine the work of the co-chairs who will<br>
facilitate the discussion.<br>
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All best wishes,<br>
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Cathie<br>
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:26 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD<br>
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> Hi Chloe,<br>
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> Exactly! I just responded to that to Gaby.<br>
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> El 9/9/20 13:00, "Chloe Kung" <chloe.kung.public@gmail.com> escribió:<br>
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> Hi,<br>
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> I actually think section 3.4.3 is adequate as the discussion period of each policy proposal is a good 8 weeks. If there is no major objection based on technical justification submitted during the 8 weeks, the chance of having one during the last call
period is very small. Even so, the community still have more time than needed to address and discuss the matter. Also this section states and I quote "Within 1 week after the end of the last call, the Working Group Chairs shall confirm whether consensus is
maintained.” So if there is such case, meaning the consensus cannot be maintained, it will fall back into the discussion period anyway.<br>
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