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On 2020/08/15 14:54, Dewole Ajao via RPD wrote:<br>
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> Thanks for the updates. While I need to take time to process the rest
> of the email, one statistic was glaring and I believe it will be
> irresponsible for us as a group (except of course those waiting to
> take advantage of that loophole) to let such exploitation of the
> system slide this time.
</span>This has me worried. I totally agree with you. The people
"stacking" the mailing list may well belong to the same group that
are now claiming everyone on the mailing list can vote, regardless
of when they were added. The criteria used to be if you had a
Meeting Badge (and in the room) you could vote. That generally
entailed travelling to the meeting to be in the room, often at great
expense and time. Ideally, I'd like to see a cost associated with
obtaining the Meeting Badge, either you have an air ticket and hotel
at the venue or you pay US$100 for the badge if you are a local
person. Now it seems, in order to have a Vote, all you need is a
unique e-mail address, one vote per e-mail address. Not very
difficult for ISP technically minded folk!<br>
<br>
Just because what we did ten years ago was right (or simply
convenient) - does not mean it is the right thing to do today.<br>
<br>
<span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: block; width: 98vw;">> If historically we have had less than 60 people contribute to the PDP
> in any one month but in July 2020 as a precursor to online elections,
> we have 177 email addresses joining the mailing list, we should this
> one time, restrict the PDP elections to those subscribers who had
> been on the list prior to the anomalous subscription rate of July
> 2020. I would say June 30 should be the cut-off date. After all, the
> in-person meeting would ordinarily have held before June 12, 2020.
>
> Since the Board has claimed responsibility for the conduct of PDWG
> elections, then I would say it will be irresponsible of this Board to
> let elections hold under these conditions with the guise of
> "preserving this right so that no one who has recently subscribed to
> the rpd mail list will be debarred and/or ‘disenfranchised’ from
> participating in the Policy Development Process."
>
> If I had a little more time, I would probably be able to prove that
> the leadership of the PDWG does not fall under "general business
> practices and procedures" but first of all, we cannot hold elections
> when the room was very strategically stacked in July.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dewole.
>
> On 8/14/2020 1:39 PM, AFRINIC Communication wrote:
>> [Version en français ci-dessous]
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> Further to its communique issued on 5 August 2020, AFRINIC wishes
>> to inform its community that following its announcement regarding
>> the holding of the Policy Development Working Group (“PDWG”)
>> Co-Chair and NRO ASO-AC elections for the year 2020, it has
>> considered all responses obtained in respect thereof.
>>
>> Consequently, AFRINIC considers it appropriate to clarify, for the
>> benefits of its community, the following:
>>
>> (a) That the Public Policy Meeting (“PPM”) is convened by the
>> AFRINIC Board of Directors pursuant to the provisions of articles
>> 11.2 and 11.3 of the Bylaws;
>>
>> (b) That in regard to the election of the PDWG Co-Chair and
>> notwithstanding the fact same is held during the PPM, section 3.1
>> of the Consolidated Policy Manual (“CPM”) clearly and in no
>> uncertain terms provides as follows: - “Internet number resource
>> policies are distinctly separate from AFRINIC general business
>> practices and procedures. General business practices and procedures
>> are not within the purview of the Policy Development Process.
>>
>> (c) That in light of para (b) above, the election process
>> applicable to the PDWG Co-Chair election does not form an integral
>> part of the CPM and is thus a matter for the Board of Directors to
>> determine;
>>
>> (d) That, consistent with the above and having considered the
>> exceptional context of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Board of
>> Directors recently resolved, inter-alia, that the forthcoming PPM
>> will be held virtually and has even caused an Election Process 2020
>> to be published applicable to all elections to be held during the
>> year 2020;
>>
>> (e) That in so far as the role of the PDWG is concerned, the core
>> responsibility of the latter is to discuss policy proposals via the
>> Internet (mailing list) or in person (during face-to-face PPM).
>> Hence, since time restrictions are prevalent for the policy
>> discussions during the PPM, rough consensus of policy proposals is
>> determined during the PPM by considering both online and on-site
>> contributions. Final consensus is decided upon after consideration
>> of the discussions in the Last Call period;
>>
>> (f) That the right attributed to its community to contribute to
>> policy discussions by either subscribing to the rpd mailing list or
>> participating in the discussions in the upcoming PPM by registering
>> for and attending the online meeting is sacrosanct and AFRINIC
>> hereby renews its commitment that it will continue to give full
>> effect to the principles of Policy Development as stipulated in
>> section 3.2 of the CPM;
>>
>> (g) That, for the purposes of para (e) above, subscription to the
>> AFRINIC rpd mailing list is considered as a step towards
>> participation in the PDWG and AFRINIC undertakes to preserve this
>> right so that no one who has recently subscribed to the rpd mail
>> list will be debarred and/or ‘disenfranchised’ from participating
>> in the Policy Development Process.
>>
>> (h) For purposes of clarity, below are subscription numbers from
>> January 2019 to 13 August 2020.
>>
>>
>>
>> *2019*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Number*
>>
>> January
>>
>>
>>
>> 3
>>
>> February
>>
>>
>>
>> 8
>>
>> March
>>
>>
>>
>> 3
>>
>> April
>>
>>
>>
>> 9
>>
>> May
>>
>>
>>
>> 30
>>
>> June
>>
>>
>>
>> 53
>>
>> July
>>
>>
>>
>> 8
>>
>> August
>>
>>
>>
>> 11
>>
>> September
>>
>>
>>
>> 3
>>
>> October
>>
>>
>>
>> 4
>>
>> November
>>
>>
>>
>> 11
>>
>> December
>>
>>
>>
>> 18
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *2020*
>>
>>
>>
>> January
>>
>>
>>
>> 1
>>
>> February
>>
>>
>>
>> 13
>>
>> March
>>
>>
>>
>> 7
>>
>> April
>>
>>
>>
>> 2
>>
>> May
>>
>>
>>
>> 5
>>
>> June
>>
>>
>>
>> 9
>>
>> July
>>
>>
>>
>> 177
>>
>> August 13th 12:50 UTC
>>
>>
>>
>> 27
>>
>> *Current number of list subscribers*
>>
>>
>>
>> *986*
>>
>>
>> On this note, AFRINIC encourages the PDWG to increase its
>> engagement in the Policy Development Process through their active,
>> substantial and constructive participation in developing resource
>> policies that will help AFRINIC in its mission of managing Internet
>> Number Resources for the African region.
>>
>> Furthermore, AFRINIC would like to take this opportunity to renew
>> its invitation to the AIS’20 meeting and recommend that the
>> community follows all procedures put in place for their online
>> registration in respect thereof.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eddy Kayihura
>>
>> CEO
>>
>> ……………………
>>
>>
>> Chers collègues,
>>
>> Suite à son communiqué publié le 5 août 2020, l'AFRINIC souhaite
>> informer sa communauté que suite à son annonce concernant la tenue
>> des élections du co-président du groupe de travail sur
>> l'élaboration des politiques ("PDWG") et de l'ASO-AC du NRO pour
>> l'année 2020, elle a examiné toutes les réponses obtenues à cet
>> égard.
>>
>> En conséquence, AFRINIC considère qu'il convient de clarifier, pour
>> le bénéfice de sa communauté, ce qui suit :
>>
>> (a) Que la réunion de politique publique ("PPM") est convoquée par
>> le Conseil d'administration de l'AFRINIC conformément aux
>> dispositions des articles 11.2 et 11.3 des statuts ;
>>
>> (b) En ce qui concerne l'élection du co-président du PDWG, et bien
>> qu'elle ait lieu pendant la Réunion de politique publique, la
>> section 3.1 du Consolidated Policy Manual ("CPM") prévoit
>> clairement et sans ambiguïté ce qui suit : - "Les politiques en
>> matière de ressources de numéros Internet se distinguent clairement
>> des pratiques opérationnelles et des procédures générales
>> d'AFRINIC, qui ne sont pas du resort du processus d'élaboration des
>> politiques''.
>>
>> c) Qu'à la lumière du paragraphe b) ci-dessus, le processus
>> d'élection applicable à l'élection du coprésident du PDWG ne fait
>> pas partie intégrante du CPM et donc est du ressort du conseil
>> d'administration ;
>>
>> (d) Que, conformément à ce qui précède et après avoir pris en
>> compte le contexte exceptionnel de la pandémie COVID-19, le Conseil
>> d'administration a récemment décidé, entre autres, que la prochaine
>> réunion de politiques publiques se tiendra virtuellement et a même
>> fait publier un processus pour les élections pour l'année 2020
>> applicable à toutes les élections devant se tenir en 2020 ;
>>
>> e) Que, en ce qui concerne le rôle du PDWG, la responsabilité
>> principale de ce dernier est de discuter des propositions
>> politiques via Internet (liste de diffusion) ou en personne (lors
>> de la réunion en face-à-face). Par conséquent, étant donné que le
>> temps imparti aux discussions politiques pendant la réunion est
>> limité, un consensus approximatif sur les propositions politiques
>> sera déterminé pendant la réunion en tenant compte des
>> contributions en ligne et sur place. Le consensus final sera décidé
>> après examen des discussions durant la période du dernier appel ;
>>
>> (f) que le droit attribué à sa communauté de contribuer aux
>> discussions politiques, soit en s'inscrivant à la liste de
>> diffusion rpd, soit en participant aux discussions de la prochaine
>> Réunion de politiques publiques en s'inscrivant et en assistant à
>> la réunion en ligne est sacro-saint et que l'AFRINIC renouvelle par
>> la présente son engagement à continuer à donner plein effet aux
>> principes d'élaboration des politiques comme stipulé dans la
>> section 3.2 de la CPM ;
>>
>> (g) Que, aux fins du paragraphe (e) ci-dessus, l'inscription à la
>> liste de diffusion rpd d'AFRINIC est considérée comme une étape
>> vers la participation au PDWG et AFRINIC s'engage à préserver ce
>> droit afin qu'aucune personne qui s'est récemment inscrite à la
>> liste de diffusion rpd ne soit exclue et/ou "privée" de sa
>> participation au processus d'élaboration des politiques.
>>
>> (h) Par souci de clarté, voici le nombre d'abonnement de janvier
>> 2019 au 13 août 2020.
>>
>>
>> *2019*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Nombres*
>>
>> Janvier
>>
>>
>>
>> 3
>>
>> Février
>>
>>
>>
>> 8
>>
>> Mars
>>
>>
>>
>> 3
>>
>> Avril
>>
>>
>>
>> 9
>>
>> Mai
>>
>>
>>
>> 30
>>
>> Juin
>>
>>
>>
>> 53
>>
>> Juillet
>>
>>
>>
>> 8
>>
>> Août
>>
>>
>>
>> 11
>>
>> Septembre
>>
>>
>>
>> 3
>>
>> Octobre
>>
>>
>>
>> 4
>>
>> Novembre
>>
>>
>>
>> 11
>>
>> December
>>
>>
>>
>> 18
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *2020*
>>
>>
>>
>> Janvier
>>
>>
>>
>> 1
>>
>> Février
>>
>>
>>
>> 13
>>
>> Mars
>>
>>
>>
>> 7
>>
>> Avril
>>
>>
>>
>> 2
>>
>> Mai
>>
>>
>>
>> 5
>>
>> Juin
>>
>>
>>
>> 9
>>
>> Juillet
>>
>>
>>
>> 177
>>
>> Août 13 12:50 UTC
>>
>>
>>
>> 27
>>
>> *Nombre d'abonnements actuels*
>>
>>
>>
>> *986*
>>
>> * *
>>
>>
>>
>> Sur cette note, AFRINIC encourage le PDWG à accroître son
>> engagement dans le processus d'élaboration des politiques à travers
>> leur participation active, substantielle et constructive dans
>> l'élaboration des politiques de ressources qui contribueront à
>> aider AFRINIC dans sa mission de gestion des ressources numériques
>> Internet pour la région africaine.
>>
>> En outre, AFRINIC voudrait saisir cette occasion pour renouveler
>> son invitation à la réunion de l'AIS'20 et recommander que la
>> communauté suive toutes les procédures mises en place pour leur
>> inscription en ligne à cet égard.
>>
>> Eddy Kayihura
>>
>> CEO
>>
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> -- Regards,
>
> Dewole.
>
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