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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I don’t think anyone said that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The point is that the PDP is very clear about:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>The term of the chairs. Chaging that requires a policy change.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>The way they are elected (show hands), including remote participants. Doesn’t present any restriction to “virtual-only-meetings”.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 21/7/20 16:50, "Haruna Umar Adoga" <<a href="mailto:hartek66@gmail.com">hartek66@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt'>Rather than focussing on why we must hold an online election amidst a global pandemic (for those pushing for this idea), we should be discussing – with reasonable points, why we feel the current co-chairs are not getting the job done.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt'>Proposing an argument for an online election at this time, should come up, if the community as a whole is convinced that the current co-chairs are hindering our progress (in any front).<o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt'>Like most people who have made their opinions known, I am of the opinion that we continue with these co-chairs, until we are able to have a face-to-face meeting to hold an election.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt'>Haruna Adoga.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 3:35 PM Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I don't understand such a fear of the different or the unknown that <br>frighten some people.<br>Although limited there are options within the PDP, but it seems none is <br>acceptable.<br><br>Agree that despite all the fear justifiable concerns there are solutions.<br><br>Fernando<br><br>On 21/07/2020 11:16, Murungi Daniel wrote:<br>> Dear Anthony,<br>><br>><br>> Postponing the election is the lazy way out. We have a problem. Let us fix it.<br>><br>>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Anthony Ubah <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Hello Taiwo,<br>>><br>>> You have basically summarized my thoughts and contributions so far.<br>>><br>>> The idea of forcibly pushing through with an online voting process baffles me, as those campaigning for it have simply failed to look at the Cons of their proposal. The existing process clearly proposes a Face-2-Face electoral process and going otherwise is going against the policy.<br>> No one is forcibly pushing anything through. That’s why the subject was put forth for discussion. Please watch the inflammatory language.<br>><br>> If policy allows us to have an e-vote. Then let’s get it done. Do we consider ourselves so special that what has worked for others will not work for us (some panel beating might be required)? If so, then that is simply a combination of hubris and unfettered arrogance.<br>><br>>> As you rightly said, the community will most likely erupt into debates and disagreements from whatever outcome. An online policy discussion and consensus might be a possibility since inputs and opinions count as value for the measure. However, online voting is a totally different playing field. It is a quagmire which we must not race into, but tread on carefully<br>> This is fear mongering. Agreed, there are some justifiable concerns but there are solutions.<br>><br>>> I personally think the seating Co-chairs are doing great work, so it is really unfortunate that the reactions from certain members project this difference. Are we in a hurry do fill in a gap? Or, are we working towards fostering a progressive community with a united front? Who loses if the current crop of Co-chairs continues in the same vein? Will the community be taken aback if their tenure is extended?<br>>><br>> Clearly some don’t think the Co-chairs have done ‘great’ work others do. A vote will lay this issue to rest :) .<br>><br>>> Like I said before, I propose that the election is postponed until the next face-to-face meeting(As required in the existing process). Before then, perhaps a credible alternative would have been refined and adopted by the majority for the supposedly “new normal”. I reiterate that It is wise that we extend the current tenure of the seating Co-chair, as flying a haphazard online election solution is does not align with current policy and process.<br>> I don’t mind a 60 day extension (policies permitting) for us to get our ducks in a row. The idea of simply extending tenures for another term is lazy and pushes the problem down the line without a solution. Especially when no one has a clue as to whether we shall be able to hold the vote in person the next election cycle.<br>> <br>><br>><br>><br>> Regards,<br>> Murungi Daniel<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> RPD mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Kind regards,<br>------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 style='margin-left:35.4pt'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'></td><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:1.2pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Haruna Umar Adoga</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> | Department of Computer Science | Faculty of Science</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:1.2pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:1.2pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Federal University Lafia.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:1.2pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>P. 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