<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 18, 2020, at 2:07 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Not really … your expressions are valid for this case (we also have the equivalent ones in Spanish), but “poder es querer” has different connotations.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Poder has a double-sense. Stands for “power” is a verb, may be “to have the power”</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I’ve always understood Poder as “ability” or “capability” more than “power” usually translated to english as “can” as in “El puedo hablar” == “He can speak”.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>(apologies if my conjugation is off, it’s very rusty from high school which was many many years ago)</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Querer is the verb “to want”, also “love”. I think the most appropriate here is “to will”</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Sure… I figured it literally translate is “To want is to be able” which is how I came to “Necessity is the mother of invention.” </div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">So probably the best translation will be “will is to have power”</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I think not. For one thing, that phrase just doesn’t parse in English. For another, it’s clearly an idiom that travels reasonably close to literal meaning in Spanish, but does not translate literally to an equivalent idiom in English.</div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Actually the complete expresion es “poder es querer y querer es poder”</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>So literally, I’d interpret that as “To be able is to want and to want is to be able.”</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Figuratively, this seems like kind of a cross between two English idioms…</div><div><br class=""></div><div>The one I previously mentioned (“Necessity is the mother of invention.”) and another one which is “Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should do it.”</div><div><br class=""></div><div>While I realize that will seem far removed in a literal sense, I think the connotations are similar in that I think both reference the tendency of people to want to take actions within their power even if it’s not necessarily the best solution under the exact circumstances.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Bottom line: Everyone in virtually every culture speaks largely in idioms and idioms are the second hardest thing to translate because they tend to be very dependent on the originating culture and contain references not common to people of other descents. (Jokes are the hardest from what I have been told by professional translators).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Jordi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">@jordipalet<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">El 18/7/20 6:01, "Owen DeLong" <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Jordi,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The closest English translation is “Necessity is the mother of invention”… It means “that which is needed will eventually be invented.”<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Another close corollary is “Problem is just another word for Opportunity”.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Owen<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:51 PM, Kangamutima zabika Christophe <<a href="mailto:funga.roho@yandex.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">funga.roho@yandex.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">+1 Jordi<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Je soutien parfaitement ta façon de voir les choses. Nous devrions plutot recenser tous les obstacles tout en examinant les solutions plausibles au lieu de nous enteter dans le scénario de l'impossibilité.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">KANGAMUTIMA<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">17.07.2020, 22:41, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hi Anthony,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">It looks very strange to me that people from Africa itself is the most pessimistic about “we can’t do this” and all kind of objections, while the rest of the world did that. Is like you don’t trust yourself.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">There is no need to do it “absolutely” on-line in the second or even minute. For an election, you can open a time frame for 7 days before the deadline, or during the full on-line event, or something similar.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">There are tons of solutions to all the possible issues that you and others are exposing.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I always say “querer es poder”, which I’m not sure if it can be directly translated to English as “wanting to do something is being able to do it”.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Regards,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Jordi</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">@jordipalet</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">El 17/7/20 20:48, "Anthony Ubah" <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hello,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 22px;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">It will be extremely difficult to run an online election in such small notice without flaws. </span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 22px;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">The idea of hand-raising looks interesting, but as Owen highlighted, there is the possibility of an individual sitting behind multiple terminals, across multiple VPNs, or on VMs raising hands. There is also no limit to the number of email accounts one can register in the RPD.</span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 22px;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">Also, internet speeds in different parts of the continent can not guarantee real-time participation to the voting process. Poorly timed voting can impact election results.</span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 22px;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">An online voting system can only be credible if every member of the community is assigned a unique ID, and if there is a policy guiding the accreditation of voters. These are not obtainable at the moment.</span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 22px;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">Thus forcing an e-voting process will be a recipe for chaos and disaster.</span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 22px;" class="">I think the current co-chairs should be made to stay on, until the next window.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 22px;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 22px;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">Kind regards,</span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 22px;" class="">Anthony<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 70.8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:34 PM <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite"><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br class="">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><br class="">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rpd-owner@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd-owner@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><br class="">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">than "Re: Contents of RPD digest..."<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class=""> 1. Re: Co-Chair Election Process (Owen DeLong)<br class=""> 2. Re: Co-Chair Election Process (Owen DeLong)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:28:46 -0700<br class="">From: Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">owen@delong.com</a>><br class="">To: Murungi Daniel <<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>><br class="">Cc: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process<br class="">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BC6A53D4-B610-4D3D-AE0F-2FEB70DF2B05@delong.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">BC6A53D4-B610-4D3D-AE0F-2FEB70DF2B05@delong.com</a>><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">> On Jul 16, 2020, at 06:10 , Murungi Daniel <<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Dear all,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Am of the view that we should proceed with the election. The current environment (inability to vote in person or via show of hands) provides us with an opportunity to come up with alternative mechanisms which can be tested and modified accordingly.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> If we are faced with another scenario such as this in the future, we won?t have to go back to the drawing board.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Regarding the ?sleeper cells? effect (aptly named by Sami :) ), the suggestion of a minimum number of posts should suffice. We should also follow up on the suggestion of always using email IDs associated with the member's organization as mentioned in previous posts (we could discuss this plus other alternatives on a separate thread).<br class=""><br class="">Every regions PDP is open to any interested participant, not merely resource holders or members.<br class=""><br class="">As such, I?m not sure how demanding the use of email IDs associated with a member?s organization could possibly be valid.<br class=""><br class="">Owen<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 2<br class="">Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:34:18 -0700<br class="">From: Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">owen@delong.com</a>><br class="">To: Daniel Yakmut <<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>><br class="">Cc: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process<br class="">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:3431CFDD-BD7B-4B0F-865D-64E95720DF61@delong.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">3431CFDD-BD7B-4B0F-865D-64E95720DF61@delong.com</a>><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">I am not opposed to tenure extension until we can come to an agreed process.<br class=""><br class="">However, I think that if we use the raised-hand capability of the conferencing system chosen (Zoom, WebEx, Adobe all have this feature), I think we have a reasonable approximation of the same situation as the in-person meeting.<br class=""><br class="">I?m not aware of any Bots that have mastered joining a remote meeting and engaging in a show of hands at the appropriate time when a question is called by voice. That would, indeed, be one heck of a sophisticated bot.<br class=""><br class="">There is, of course, the risk of someone sitting at multiple machines logged into the conference multiple times under different identities, but that can be solved by limiting the participation to RPD list subscribers where each subscribed email is able to get exactly one session.<br class=""><br class="">We could even base it on a cutoff of emails registered on the list prior to some date certain, perhaps even the original AIS start date.<br class=""><br class="">Owen<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">> On Jul 16, 2020, at 06:57 , Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Dear All,<br class="">> How do we generate a voters register? How do we verify that the voters are humans not robots?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Let us remember, there are people who will never participate in exchanges on the rpd, but when it comes to voting they will vote, because they have been passive observers. So tying any condition like no. of posts is an exclusion agenda.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> It is an attempt by the vocal minority to suppress the silent majority, and this is a recipe for commotion.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> That is why I posit that, agreeing to terms and conditions for e-voting in a polarise environment will take time, intense discussions, confidence building and trust. This I am not sure we can achieve before September.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Hence, the tenure extension will allow us resolve all issues. I think e-voting is inevitable in the foreseeable future.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Simply,<br class="">> Daniel<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> On Jul 16, 2020 12:55 PM, "Paschal Ochang" <<a href="mailto:pascosoft@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">pascosoft@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:pascosoft@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">pascosoft@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">> Hello all,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Yes I will gave to agree with the extension of the period of service of the current co-chair whose tenure is about to expire. In as much as almost every process in the is pandemic era will benefit from virtual participations we need to look at the intricacies of the current suggestions for using rpd participants and remote voting.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> I can remember that a policy regarding electronic voting was rejected due to loopholes in the proposal.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Secondly disenfranchising folks who will love to participate even in the last minute should not be justifiable.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> On Thursday, July 16, 2020, Taiwo Oyewande <<a href="mailto:taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">> Hi Eddy, Hi all,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> At a time like this, based on the importance of the co-chair election to the policy development process, the standing election process that clearly states a show of hands and the delicate nature of this election, i will like to suggest that the period of service of the current co-chair be extended till the next face to face meeting.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Regards<br class="">> Taiwo<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> On 16 Jul 2020, at 11:48, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>> wrote:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> ?<br class="">>> Yep, in fact looking at the features and the way it works, seems very very close to what LACNIC is using (I believe the developed in-house, but I?m not sure).<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Regards,<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Jordi<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> @jordipalet<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> El 16/7/20 12:35, "Mike Silber" <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">silber.mike@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>>> escribi?:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> This platform has been recommended to me and code is available:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://heliosvoting.org/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://heliosvoting.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="https://heliosvoting.org/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://heliosvoting.org/</a>><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> On 16 Jul 2020, at 11:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>> wrote:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Hi Eddy, all,<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> LACNIC always do this remotely and electronically, using the subscribers in the RPD mailing list at some point before the process starts (to avoid ?lots of friends? not really ?part of the PDP? to join the day before the voting).<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> I will think it is the best choice we have in replacement for a non-in-person-meeting.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> I think they could help in providing the platform or the code or something similar, in case you don?t have already an existing platform to do that.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Regards,<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Jordi<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> @jordipalet<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> El 16/7/20 11:47, "Eddy Kayihura" <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eddy@afrinic.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eddy@afrinic.net</a>>> escribi?:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Dear PDWG community members<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> The Public Policy Meeting will be on the agenda of the Africa Internet Summit 2020 (AIS-20) inSeptember. One PDWG co-chair?s term (one year) will end during the Public Policy Meeting.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> The election process for the PDWG co-chair (please see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</a><<a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</a>> for more details) says that voting shall be by a simple show of hands. However, this Public Policy meeting shall be held online.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> We are therefore requesting feedback from the community on how AFRINIC can best proceed with the election to fill the vacant seat of one PDP co-chair. We shall be delighted to receive your proposals for this important matter and hope we can have a consensus within a week.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Regards,<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Eddy<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> -----<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Chers membres de la communaut? du PDWG,<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> La r?union de politique publique sera ? l'ordre du jour du Sommet Africain de l'Internet 2020 (AIS-20) qui se tiendra du 14 au 18 septembre 2020. Le mandat d'un des copr?sidents du PDWG (un an) prendra fin pendant la r?union de politique publique.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Le processus d'?lection du copr?sident du PDWG (voir<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</a><<a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</a>> pour plus de d?tails) pr?voit que le vote se fera ? main lev?e. Toutefois, cette r?union de politique publique se tiendra en ligne.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Nous demandons donc ? la communaut? de nous faire part de ses commentaires sur la meilleure fa?on pour AFRINIC de proc?der ? l'?lection pour pourvoir le si?ge vacant d'un copr?sident du PDP. Nous serons ravis de recevoir vos propositions sur cette importante question et esperons avoir un consensus dans une semaine.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Cordialement,<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Eddy<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> ----<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Eddy Kayihura<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Chief Executive Officer<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> t: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="1f1ea193f6735cf0wmi-callto">+230 403 5100</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>| tt: @afrinic | w:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.afrinic.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.afrinic.net/</a>> <<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.afrinic.net</a>> <<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.afrinic.net/</a>><br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> _______________________________________________ RPD mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> **********************************************<br class="">>> IPv4 is over<br class="">>> Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.theipv6company.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="http://www.theipv6company.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.theipv6company.com/</a>><br class="">>> The IPv6 Company<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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