<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 16, 2020, at 04:09 , Sami Salih <<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com" class="">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""></div><span class="">Salam Eddy, All<br class=""></span><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It's clear that we don't have any another choice than relying on the rpd, thus we have to consider the followings:<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) Mitigating the (sleeper cells) effect, not all subscribers are real participants, hence I recommend to apply a light filter such as minimum of 10 posts before today. (just an example)<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>There are many legitimate participants in the RPD who make fewer posts. Disenfranchising on that basis would not be appropriate IMHO.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class="">2) I would prefer an in-house develop system to perform as follows:<br class=""></div><div class=""> i- Send eligibility email to those who satisfy the conditions in (1), with a link to register for voting,<br class=""></div><div class=""> ii- then the voting credentials send only to registered fellows,<br class=""></div><div class=""> iii- after the announced voting period the result published with the list of votes,<br class=""></div><div class="">I didn't see any harm if the community see that I voted to someone, even in show of hands the session record documents who is voting for who.<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>FWIW, many of the conferencing systems that could be used support the concept of a raised hand. We could do legitimate show of hands voting by having someone count the raised</div><div>hands from the meeting participants at the appropriate time(s).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>IMHO, this would be most in keeping with the rules of the PDP.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; text-align: left;" class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; 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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:40 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mike Silber <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" class="">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process</font><div class=""> </div></div><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="x_WordSection1"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Yep, in fact looking at the features and the way it works, seems very very close to what LACNIC is using (I believe the developed in-house, but I’m not sure).</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Regards,</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Jordi</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">@jordipalet</span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">El 16/7/20 12:35, "Mike Silber" <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>> escribió:</div></div></div><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">This platform has been recommended to me and code is available: <a href="https://heliosvoting.org/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://heliosvoting.org</a></div><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 16 Jul 2020, at 11:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hi Eddy, all,</span></div></div><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">LACNIC always do this remotely and electronically, using the subscribers in the RPD mailing list at some point before the process starts (to avoid “lots of friends” not really “part of the PDP” to join the day before the voting).</span></div></div><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I will think it is the best choice we have in replacement for a non-in-person-meeting.</span></div></div><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I think they could help in providing the platform or the code or something similar, in case you don’t have already an existing platform to do that.</span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Regards,</span></div></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Jordi</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">@jordipalet</span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">El 16/7/20 11:47, "Eddy Kayihura" <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">eddy@afrinic.net</span></a>> escribió:</div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p></div></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear PDWG community members<br class=""><br class="">The Public Policy Meeting will be on the agenda of the Africa Internet Summit 2020 (AIS-20)<span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span><span lang="EN-US" class="">in</span>September. One PDWG co-chair’s term (one year) will end during the Public Policy Meeting.<span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">The election process for the PDWG co-chair (please see<span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</span></a><span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span>for more details) says that voting shall be by a simple show of hands. However, this Public Policy meeting shall be held online.<br class=""><br class="">We are therefore requesting feedback from the community on how AFRINIC can best proceed with the election to fill the vacant seat of one PDP co-chair. We shall be delighted to receive your proposals for this important matter<span class="x_apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="">and hope we can have a consensus within a week.</span><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Eddy<br class=""><br class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">-----</span><br class=""><br class="">Chers membres de la communauté du PDWG,<br class=""><br class="">La réunion de politique publique sera à l'ordre du jour du Sommet Africain de l'Internet 2020 (AIS-20) qui se tiendra du 14 au 18 septembre 2020. Le mandat d'un des coprésidents du PDWG (un an) prendra fin pendant la réunion de politique publique.<br class=""><br class="">Le processus d'élection du coprésident du PDWG (voir<span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</span></a><span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span>pour plus de détails) prévoit que le vote se fera à main levée. Toutefois, cette réunion de politique publique se tiendra en ligne.<br class=""><br class="">Nous demandons donc à la communauté de nous faire part de ses commentaires sur la meilleure façon pour AFRINIC de procéder à l'élection pour pourvoir le siège vacant d'un coprésident du PDP. Nous serons ravis de recevoir vos propositions sur cette importante question<span class="x_apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="">et esperons avoir un consensus dans une semaine.</span><br class=""><br class="">Cordialement,<br class=""><br class="">Eddy<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class="">----</span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class="">Eddy Kayihura</span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class="">Chief Executive Officer</span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class="">African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)</span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Baskerville Old Face", serif;" class="">t: +230 403 5100 | tt: @afrinic | w:<span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.afrinic.net</a><span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><http://www.afrinic.net></a></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p></div><div style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialMT, serif;" class=""><br class="">**********************************************<br class="">IPv4 is over<br class="">Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br class=""></span><a href="http://www.theipv6company.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialMT, serif; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">http://www.theipv6company.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialMT, serif;" class=""><br class="">The IPv6 Company<br class=""><br class="">This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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