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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span style='font-size:12.0pt'></span></span><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Taiwo,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>While I agree about the “show hands” is at the elections process, this elections process is normatively invalid, because it has never been referenced and agree by the community in the PDP.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I just re-read both the PDP and the elections process, to be safe. I think I’m correct in my assertions here.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>So, it is perfectly fine that we decide now an alternative way if it adheres to the PDP. It doesn’t need to adhere to the elections process.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>On the other side, we have already done paper ballots, so we have clearly ignored the non-normative elections process.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>The PDP, fortunately, doesn’t state that the public policy meeting should be “in-person”, that’s the reason we can do it on-line.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo20><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>According to that, “show of hands” doesn’t indicate an in-person show of hands, because this elections process is not either attached to an in-person meeting. There is only one place where it mentions “</span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>All candidates shall be given the opportunity to present themselves to the community in a brief speech during the face-to-face meeting”. But in the context of a non-face-to-face meeting, this text doesn’t force that (and it can be fulfilled by offering a video to each candidate).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>All that said, even if I’m not against your proposal, that will require a variance on the process according to the PDP and I’m not sure we have time for that. Otherwise, that will mean breaking our own PDP, while an electronic voting doesn’t break it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 16/7/20 13:26, "Taiwo Oyewande" <<a href="mailto:taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com">taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hi Eddy, Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>At a time like this, based on the importance of the co-chair election to the policy development process, the standing election process that clearly states a show of hands and the delicate nature of this election, i will like to suggest that the period of service of the current co-chair be extended till the next face to face meeting.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Taiwo<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>On 16 Jul 2020, at 11:48, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd@afrinic.net> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yep, in fact looking at the features and the way it works, seems very very close to what LACNIC is using (I believe the developed in-house, but I’m not sure).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>El 16/7/20 12:35, "Mike Silber" <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>This platform has been recommended to me and code is available: <a href="https://heliosvoting.org">https://heliosvoting.org</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>On 16 Jul 2020, at 11:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Eddy, all,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>LACNIC always do this remotely and electronically, using the subscribers in the RPD mailing list at some point before the process starts (to avoid “lots of friends” not really “part of the PDP” to join the day before the voting).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I will think it is the best choice we have in replacement for a non-in-person-meeting.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think they could help in providing the platform or the code or something similar, in case you don’t have already an existing platform to do that.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>@jordipalet</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>El 16/7/20 11:47, "Eddy Kayihura" <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net"><span style='color:#0563C1'>eddy@afrinic.net</span></a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>Dear PDWG community members<br><br>The Public Policy Meeting will be on the agenda of the Africa Internet Summit 2020 (AIS-20)<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span lang=EN-US>in</span>September. One PDWG co-chair’s term (one year) will end during the Public Policy Meeting.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><br>The election process for the PDWG co-chair (please see<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>for more details) says that voting shall be by a simple show of hands. However, this Public Policy meeting shall be held online.<br><br>We are therefore requesting feedback from the community on how AFRINIC can best proceed with the election to fill the vacant seat of one PDP co-chair. We shall be delighted to receive your proposals for this important matter<span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US> </span></span><span lang=EN-US>and hope we can have a consensus within a week.</span><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Eddy<br><br><span lang=EN-US>-----</span><br><br>Chers membres de la communauté du PDWG,<br><br>La réunion de politique publique sera à l'ordre du jour du Sommet Africain de l'Internet 2020 (AIS-20) qui se tiendra du 14 au 18 septembre 2020. Le mandat d'un des coprésidents du PDWG (un an) prendra fin pendant la réunion de politique publique.<br><br>Le processus d'élection du coprésident du PDWG (voir<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>pour plus de détails) prévoit que le vote se fera à main levée. Toutefois, cette réunion de politique publique se tiendra en ligne.<br><br>Nous demandons donc à la communauté de nous faire part de ses commentaires sur la meilleure façon pour AFRINIC de procéder à l'élection pour pourvoir le siège vacant d'un coprésident du PDP. Nous serons ravis de recevoir vos propositions sur cette importante question<span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US> </span></span><span lang=EN-US>et esperons avoir un consensus dans une semaine.</span><br><br>Cordialement,<br><br>Eddy<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'>----</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'>Eddy Kayihura</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'>Chief Executive Officer</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'>African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif'>t: +230 403 5100 | tt: @afrinic | w:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/">www.afrinic.net</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/"><http://www.afrinic.net></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMT",serif'><br>**********************************************<br>IPv4 is over<br>Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br></span><a href="http://www.theipv6company.com/"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMT",serif;color:#0563C1'>http://www.theipv6company.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMT",serif'><br>The IPv6 Company<br><br>This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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