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<p>Dear Murungi "my namesake as we say in my village",</p>
<p>Your statement below is clearly one of the challenges in our
community, and i strongly agree that we could've and should do
better on looking at policy proposals critically and how it
impacts us in the future. However, the unnecessary diversions can
easily remove our focus on real matter "Policies".</p>
<p>I agree we need to re-focus and agree to disagree.<br>
</p>
<p>"I am of the view that all the scandals and dodgy resource
assignments (plus the policies that support them) which plague
AFRINIC are due to the fact that we as community members did not
actively question the actions and decisions made by AFRINIC
management. Plus many of us did not fully understand nor take time
to scrutinize policy proposals from members and their future
impact. Thus, we all fell short of our responsibility as stewards
of the IP resources dear to us."</p>
<p>Simply,</p>
<p>Daniel<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/06/2020 6:34 am, Murungi Daniel
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:3968ED36-E6C9-41E7-A869-844D90EB7BB5@wia.co.tz">
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Dear Emem,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">You have made strong baseless accusations against me
on a public forum. I write to address them.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I did not choose to be active on this list out of
boredom and neither is it because I have nothing else to do. I
don’t know you or most of the people on this list personally. So
for you and others to accuse me of plotting personal attacks on
members without clearly specifying supporting statements is not
only slanderous but a cause for concern. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">This list is for discussion of all matters related
to governance and assignment of IP address on the African
continent. These discussions, provide the building blocks for
the policies which govern IP resource usage and assignment. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">All my replies to any topic on this list are in
response to what has been posted by members. When I ask a
question (as is my right), it is always in response to a
statement made by a community member. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Additionally, IMHO, yourself and a couple of others
continue to use the word chaos without justification. I believe
this is unnecessary gas lighting and should be stopped
immediately.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I am of the view that all the scandals and dodgy
resource assignments (plus the policies that support them) which
plague AFRINIC are due to the fact that we as community members
did not actively question the actions and decisions made by
AFRINIC management. Plus many of us did not fully understand nor
take time to scrutinize policy proposals from members and their
future impact. Thus, we all fell short of our responsibility as
stewards of the IP resources dear to us. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">In closing, when I or any other member asks for
clarification on a decision taken by AFRINIC management or on a
statement made in reply to a post (from any member), a timely
and concise response should be provided. Not deflections and
accusations of inciting chaos and personal attacks.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Regards,</div>
<div class="">Daniel</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<div><br class="">
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<div class="">On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:01 AM, Emem William <<a
href="mailto:dwizard65@gmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dwizard65@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Dear Marcus and Daniel,</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">I have been observing you
silently expecting that with time you'll come to the
consciousness of the code of conduct that governs the
AFRINIC mailing list.</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Please we did not sign onto
this mailing list so that you can attack those with
whom you have personal differences. </div>
<div dir="auto" class="">We are fully in support of the
Co-chair's decision cos it's imperative to restore
sanctity in this mailing list. Like he said, we want a
stable AFRINIC not one with chaos and disorderliness. </div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Co-chairs. Please keep doing
the wonderful job you that you were elected to do. </div>
<div dir="auto" class="">We fully support you.</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Regards,</div>
<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class="">Emem
WILLIAM<br class="">
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 6, 2020,
23:24 BINEMO SHADIMIADI Jean Guelord <<a
href="mailto:guelordshadimiadi@gmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">guelordshadimiadi@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto" class=""><b class=""><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">Bonjour et Bonsoir chers tous, je
commence par mon adage « Ver qu’on fait</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> plus de cas de l’opinion que la vie ;
on se battait pour se venger</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> ou se faire des ennemies ? Cette
sauvagerie développait à un</span><br
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">
<span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">haut degré de l’énergie individuel,
elle formait des amitiés solides,</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">mais elle ôtait à l’opinion de tout
son pouvoir. La société se divisait</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> en petit group bien unis, mais chacun
autours d’un protecteurs</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">. »</span><br
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">
<span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">Chers tous, j’ai croit que nous
oublions la mission que nous avons ici</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">, et on se focalise sur le personne,
les intérêts personnel et le débat</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> sur les hors normes d’AFRINIC ; je
demande à toute un chacun de</span><br
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">
<span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">bien vouloir mettre de l’eau dans son
pot de vin !</span><br
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">
<span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">Se réfèrent au message de ABDULKARIM
je cite (Your last email has clearly</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> violated the last warning earlier
issued by the Co-Chair. Therefore</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> we are left with no choice than to
moderate any</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> email you send onto this mailing list.
This would be reviewed after a week.</span><br
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">
<span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">I would have to say that this is a very
slippery slope we are treading down</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">.) ; ne pouvez pas nous amener à se
contre attaquer comme si on était</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> ennemies plus tôt nous sommes membres
d’une même communauté et</span><br
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">
<span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">chacun dans son coin cherche le bien de
la communauté AFRI NIC, si on se</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> référence à de principes de débat : il
ya la tolérance, unité, universalité</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> et le respect des opinons des uns et
autres, alors commençons</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> par d’abord respecter l’opinion de
ABDULKARIM, puis vérifions</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> si cela viole les normes de débat dans
le PDP et en faire le</span><br
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">
<span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">proposition au cochairs pour soit
retirer le débat ou recadre le débat</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">.</span><br
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">
<span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">Si des cochairs sont élus par la
Communauté, principalement pour organisent</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> et modèrent des discussions autour du
PDP. C’est-à-dire les</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> cochaires ont aussi le pouvoir de
retirer un débat qui ne met pas</span><br
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">
<span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">les membres de la communauté en unité,
en paix pour le bien de</span> <span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class="">l’évolution de l’internet en Afrique
ou donner les orientations. Concentrons-nous</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> sur notre mission pour lequel nous
sommes ici, évitons</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> de personnaliser le débat, de se
rendre justice tant que les cochaires</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> sont là. Personnellement je soutien et
respecte l’avis ABDULKARIM</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> puisque cela reste sont point de vie.
Et demandent à tout le</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> monde d’orienter le débat sur
l’évolution que nous mettre dans la défense</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"
class=""> des personnes.</span></b></div>
<br class="">
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1. Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 17:20:10 +0000<br class="">
From: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <<a
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To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a
href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>><br
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Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a
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class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>,<br
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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud
Innovation Displays Very<br class="">
Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship<br
class="">
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Dear Abdulkarim,<br class="">
<br class="">
You were disruptive by trying to prevent the
discussions to ever happen or happen on rpd.<br
class="">
<br class="">
The bad actions and examples shall be allowed to
be called out strongly.<br class="">
<br class="">
Community ignored your rant and kept discussions
going without cochairs and made progress.<br
class="">
<br class="">
The community does not elect cochairs to censor
discussions while chosing which topics to be
discussed on rpd list.<br class="">
<br class="">
While enforcing CoC is part of your role, it does
not prescribe what I said above. In fact, you have
so far not been able to provide an official reason
for censorship of posts by Noah, a senior member
of this community<br class="">
<br class="">
Community elected cochairs are expected to be
neutral and mainly organize and moderate
discussions around the PDP. This is one more
question about your neutrality<br class="">
<br class="">
As we kept saying, a well organized and structured
discussion style would prevent many deviations
and encourage more participation.<br class="">
<br class="">
Cultural and linguistic diversities plus different
levels of expertise, which all make the beauty of
our community, have to be well exploited for the
good.<br class="">
<br class="">
Many people feel frustrated and under attack with
responses from others because of the differences
in the understandings.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Marcus<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
________________________________<br class="">
From: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a
href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>><br
class="">
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:09 PM<br class="">
To: Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a
href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br
class="">
Cc: Murungi Daniel <<a
href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>>;
Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a
href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>;
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noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud
Innovation Displays Very Poor, If Not Criminal,
Netizenship<br class="">
<br class="">
Dear Marcus,<br class="">
Yes, I agree that the follow-up discussion was
useful and am sure you would agree with us that it
became useful when no one felt under attack.<br
class="">
Its that type of discussions that the code of
conduct we all signed up to permits. We were
never disruptive maybe you meant constructive as
we were only doing the job the community elected
us to do.<br class="">
Cheers<br class="">
Co-Chair<br class="">
Cheers and Have<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey
<<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>>
wrote:<br class="">
I have not seen any response to this query and the
followup discussions on the incident on rpd has
proven to be useful for the mandate and scope of
the PDP.<br class="">
<br class="">
You were just disruptive and you must stop this
recurrent censorship as others have said.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Please reinstate immediately Noah?s posting rights
with apologies.<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Marcus<br class="">
<br class="">
________________________________<br class="">
From: Murungi Daniel <<a
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noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>>><br
class="">
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:11 PM<br class="">
To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a
href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
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class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>><br
class="">
Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a
href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>>;
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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud
Innovation Displays Very Poor, If Not Criminal,
Netizenship<br class="">
<br class="">
Dear Abdulkarim,<br class="">
<br class="">
Kindly elaborate on the details of the personal
attack and chaos you mentioned in your last email.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Daniel<br class="">
<br class="">
On May 31, 2020, at 10:14 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO
OLOYEDE <<a
href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>>
wrote:<br class="">
<br class="">
Dear Murungi,<br class="">
I have no issues with transparency, infact what I
want is transparency. What we don't want is chaos.
I don't think you would tolerate someone attacking
you personally.<br class="">
Thanks<br class="">
<br class="">
On Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:36 Murungi Daniel, <<a
href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>>>
wrote:<br class="">
+1 @Mark Tinka.<br class="">
<br class="">
@Abdulkarim, it seems you have an issue with
transparency on this list. Granted, some of Noah?s
words may be heavy handed ( he is a passionate
fellow) but I see no cause for the action you are
proposing.<br class="">
<br class="">
Your ?power? as Co -PWGD is not to be wielded for
stifling member voices or punishing what you
perceive to be a personal slight.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Daniel<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
> On May 31, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Mark Tinka <<a
href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a>>>
wrote:<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> On 30/May/20 08:11, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE
wrote:<br class="">
><br class="">
>> Dear Noah,<br class="">
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Pour ma part une intimidation savamment moul?e
dans une r?clamation n'est<br class="">
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Si nous nous consid?rions les uns les autres on
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lettre.<br class="">
Les attaques sybillines et cibl?es que l'on se
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groupe ne doivent pas exag?rer. Et quand le
co-chair joue son r?le<br class="">
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> Je pense que nous devons rester focus et
?volutif sur les discussions des<br class="">
> politiques, s'attarder sur le sujet nous
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><br class="">
> Il y a eu un avertissement pr?c?dent, s'il
n'a pas ?t? respect? quoi de<br class="">
> plus normal que de subir des mesures
disciplinaires qui seront revus dans<br class="">
> une semaine comme j'ai lu, laissons les
copr?sidents faire leur travail.<br class="">
><br class="">
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> Josu? Vangu<br class="">
><br class="">
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>> 1. Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud
Innovation Displays Very Poor,<br class="">
>> If Not Criminal, Netizenship
(Arnaud AMELINA)<br class="">
>> 2. Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud
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>> If Not Criminal, Netizenship (Taiwo
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>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 04:08:21 +0000<br
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>> From: Arnaud AMELINA <<a
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>> To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a
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>> Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a
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class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>,<br
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>> "<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
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>> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss]
Cloud Innovation Displays Very<br class="">
>> Poor, If Not Criminal,
Netizenship<br class="">
>> Message-ID:<br class="">
>>
<CAGDMR_fk9H6qf-TAsoPOd-sJtF2rY0kthGyvScxSkYp=<br
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>> Abdulkarim, je n'ai pas du tout
l'impression que ton jugement sur cette<br
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>> liste de discussion soit ?quitable. Il
semblerait que certaines personnes<br class="">
>> ont le droit de dire tout ce qu'ils
veulent et d'intimider (ce que le code<br class="">
>> de conduite interdit) les autres
contributeurs , sans que tu ne te<br class="">
>> manifeste. Par contre tu t'acharnes sur
d'autres contributeurs ? chacune<br class="">
>> de<br class="">
>> leur intervention comme si tu recevais
des instructions pour le faire. De<br class="">
>> gr?ce arr?tes ?a et fait le job pour
lequel tu as ?t? ?lu .<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> En quoi est-ce une attaque que de
d?noncer une usurpation de ressources<br class="">
>> (ASN) d'un client par un autre client
d'Afrinic constituerait une attaque<br class="">
>> personnelle comme stipul? dans le code de
conduite? Soit objectif et<br class="">
>> ?quitable dans tes d?cisions.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Cordialement<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Arnaud<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Le ven. 5 juin 2020 ? 21:11, ABDULKARIM
AYOPO OLOYEDE <<br class="">
>> <a
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a ?crit :<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> > Dear Marcus,<br class="">
>> > Yes, I agree that the follow-up
discussion was useful and am sure you<br class="">
>> > would agree with us that it became
useful when no one felt under attack.<br class="">
>> > Its that type of discussions that
the code of conduct we all signed up<br class="">
>> to<br class="">
>> > permits. We were never disruptive
maybe you meant constructive as we<br class="">
>> were<br class="">
>> > only doing the job the community
elected us to do.<br class="">
>> > Cheers<br class="">
>> > Co-Chair<br class="">
>> > Cheers and Have<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28 PM
Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a
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>> ><br class="">
>> > wrote:<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> >> I have not seen any response to
this query and the followup discussions<br
class="">
>> >> on the incident on rpd has
proven to be useful for the mandate and<br
class="">
>> scope of<br class="">
>> >> the PDP.<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> You were just disruptive and you
must stop this recurrent censorship as<br class="">
>> >> others have said.<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Please reinstate immediately
Noah?s posting rights with apologies.<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Regards,<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Marcus<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> ------------------------------<br
class="">
>> >> *From:* Murungi Daniel <<a
href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>><br
class="">
>> >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 31, 2020
8:11 PM<br class="">
>> >> *To:* ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE
<<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
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>> >> *Cc:* Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu
<<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>;<br
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>> <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
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class="" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>
<<br class="">
>> >> <a
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>> >> *Subject:* Re: [rpd]
[Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very<br
class="">
>> >> Poor, If Not Criminal,
Netizenship<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Dear Abdulkarim,<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Kindly elaborate on the details
of the personal attack and chaos you<br class="">
>> >> mentioned in your last email.<br
class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Regards,<br class="">
>> >> Daniel<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> On May 31, 2020, at 10:14 PM,
ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<br class="">
>> >> <a
href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Dear Murungi,<br class="">
>> >> I have no issues with
transparency, infact what I want is transparency.<br
class="">
>> >> What we don't want is chaos. I
don't think you would tolerate someone<br class="">
>> >> attacking you personally.<br
class="">
>> >> Thanks<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> On Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:36
Murungi Daniel, <<a
href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
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wrote:<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> +1 @Mark Tinka.<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> @Abdulkarim, it seems you have
an issue with transparency on this list.<br
class="">
>> >> Granted, some of Noah?s words
may be heavy handed ( he is a passionate<br
class="">
>> >> fellow) but I see no cause for
the action you are proposing.<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Your ?power? as Co -PWGD is not
to be wielded for stifling member<br class="">
>> voices<br class="">
>> >> or punishing what you perceive
to be a personal slight.<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Regards,<br class="">
>> >> Daniel<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> > On May 31, 2020, at 10:29
AM, Mark Tinka <<a
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rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
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>> >> ><br class="">
>> >> ><br class="">
>> >> ><br class="">
>> >> > On 30/May/20 08:11,
ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:<br class="">
>> >> ><br class="">
>> >> >> Dear Noah,<br class="">
>> >> >> Your last email has
clearly violated the last warning earlier<br
class="">
>> issued<br class="">
>> >> >> by the Co-Chair.
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>> >> > I would have to say that
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>> treading<br class="">
>> >> down.<br class="">
>> >> ><br class="">
>> >> > Mark.<br class="">
>> >> ><br class="">
>> >> >
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>> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss]
Cloud Innovation Displays Very<br class="">
>> Poor, If Not Criminal,
Netizenship<br class="">
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>> Good day,<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> I think the co-chairs are doing the job
they were elected to do and we<br class="">
>> should commend them for a great job so
far. Just as @Murungi stated, Noah<br class="">
>> had some heavy handed words. Also the
co-chairs stated -rightfully- that<br class="">
>> those messages were out of scope and the
RPD mailing list be used only for<br class="">
>> policy discussions to determine a way
forward in the community.<br class="">
>> I also agree with Marcus that Noah had
some constructive points laid out<br class="">
>> especially after the stern warning was
given. I think the co-chairs should<br class="">
>> be applauded for repositioning Noah?s
great knowledge back to the focus of<br class="">
>> the list and to further tap his
experience towards the development of the<br
class="">
>> community.<br class="">
>> Please let us all keep positive,
progressive and ofcos, safe.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Taiwo<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Sent from my iPhone<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> > On 6 Jun 2020, at 05:12, Arnaud
AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> > ?<br class="">
>> > Abdulkarim, je n'ai pas du tout
l'impression que ton jugement sur cette<br
class="">
>> liste de discussion soit ?quitable. Il
semblerait que certaines personnes<br class="">
>> ont le droit de dire tout ce qu'ils
veulent et d'intimider (ce que le code<br class="">
>> de conduite interdit) les autres
contributeurs , sans que tu ne te<br class="">
>> manifeste. Par contre tu t'acharnes sur
d'autres contributeurs ? chacune de<br class="">
>> leur intervention comme si tu recevais
des instructions pour le faire. De<br class="">
>> gr?ce arr?tes ?a et fait le job pour
lequel tu as ?t? ?lu .<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> > En quoi est-ce une attaque que de
d?noncer une usurpation de ressources<br class="">
>> (ASN) d'un client par un autre client
d'Afrinic constituerait une attaque<br class="">
>> personnelle comme stipul? dans le code de
conduite? Soit objectif et<br class="">
>> ?quitable dans tes d?cisions.<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> > Cordialement<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> > Arnaud<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> >> Le ven. 5 juin 2020 ? 21:11,
ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<br class="">
>> <a
href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>
a ?crit :<br class="">
>> >> Dear Marcus,<br class="">
>> >> Yes, I agree that the follow-up
discussion was useful and am sure you<br class="">
>> would agree with us that it became useful
when no one felt under attack.<br class="">
>> >> Its that type of discussions
that the code of conduct we all signed up<br
class="">
>> to permits. We were never disruptive
maybe you meant constructive as we<br class="">
>> were only doing the job the community
elected us to do.<br class="">
>> >> Cheers<br class="">
>> >> Co-Chair<br class="">
>> >> Cheers and Have<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28
PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <<br class="">
>> <a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
>> >>> I have not seen any response
to this query and the followup<br class="">
>> discussions on the incident on rpd has
proven to be useful for the mandate<br class="">
>> and scope of the PDP.<br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>> You were just disruptive and
you must stop this recurrent censorship<br
class="">
>> as others have said.<br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>> Please reinstate immediately
Noah?s posting rights with apologies.<br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>> Regards,<br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>> Marcus<br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>> From: Murungi Daniel <<a
href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>><br
class="">
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020
8:11 PM<br class="">
>> >>> To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE
<<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>><br
class="">
>> >>> Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu
<<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
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>> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
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>> >>> Subject: Re: [rpd]
[Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very<br
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>> Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship<br
class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>> Dear Abdulkarim,<br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>> Kindly elaborate on the
details of the personal attack and chaos you<br
class="">
>> mentioned in your last email.<br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>> Regards,<br class="">
>> >>> Daniel<br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >>>> On May 31, 2020, at
10:14 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<br
class="">
>> <a
href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>> Dear Murungi,<br
class="">
>> >>>> I have no issues with
transparency, infact what I want is<br class="">
>> transparency. What we don't want is
chaos. I don't think you would tolerate<br
class="">
>> someone attacking you personally.<br
class="">
>> >>>> Thanks<br class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>> On Sun, 31 May 2020,
19:36 Murungi Daniel, <<a
href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>><br
class="">
>> wrote:<br class="">
>> >>>> +1 @Mark Tinka.<br
class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>> @Abdulkarim, it seems
you have an issue with transparency on this<br
class="">
>> list. Granted, some of Noah?s words may
be heavy handed ( he is a<br class="">
>> passionate fellow) but I see no cause for
the action you are proposing.<br class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>> Your ?power? as Co -PWGD
is not to be wielded for stifling member<br
class="">
>> voices or punishing what you perceive to
be a personal slight.<br class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>> Regards,<br class="">
>> >>>> Daniel<br class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>> > On May 31, 2020, at
10:29 AM, Mark Tinka <<a
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rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a>><br
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>> wrote:<br class="">
>> >>>> ><br class="">
>> >>>> ><br class="">
>> >>>> ><br class="">
>> >>>> > On 30/May/20 08:11,
ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:<br class="">
>> >>>> ><br class="">
>> >>>> >> Dear Noah,<br
class="">
>> >>>> >> Your last
email has clearly violated the last warning
earlier<br class="">
>> issued<br class="">
>> >>>> >> by the
Co-Chair. Therefore we are left with no choice
than to<br class="">
>> moderate<br class="">
>> >>>> >> any email you
send onto this mailing list. This would be
reviewed<br class="">
>> >>>> >> after a week.<br
class="">
>> >>>> ><br class="">
>> >>>> > I would have to say
that this is a very slippery slope we are<br
class="">
>> treading down.<br class="">
>> >>>> ><br class="">
>> >>>> > Mark.<br class="">
>> >>>> ><br class="">
>> >>>> >
_______________________________________________<br
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>> >>>> > RPD mailing list<br
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href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br
class="">
>> >>>> > <a
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rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br
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>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>>> Website, Weekly Bulletin
UGPortal PGPortal<br class="">
>> >>>><br class="">
>> >>><br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >> Website, Weekly Bulletin
UGPortal PGPortal<br class="">
>> >><br class="">
>> >>
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