<div dir="auto">Je n'ai pas l'impression que tous ceux là qui supportent les errances et les agissements inéquitables du Co-chair comprennent vraiment les principes qui gouvernent et soutendent le fonctionnement de cette liste de discussion. Avant de défendre et soutenir quelqu'un il est sage de vérifier s'il fait les choses dans les normes ou pas. Les discussions que le Co-chairs tentante de toutes ses forces à évincer de cette liste concernent bel et bien les directives et mission de cette liste de discussion. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Pour rappel à ceux à qui ça aurait échappé , il s'agit d'une discussion sur une structure cliente d'Afrinic avec plus de 6 millions d'IP à sa disposition qui aurait un de ses clients en dehors de la zone d'AFRINIC (ce qui constitue déjà une violation des politiques dont la rédaction est issue des discussions ayant eu lieu sur cette même liste de discussion) qui aurait usurpé le numéro AS (un autre acte contraire aux politiques redigees par le PDWG ) d'un autre client d'AFRINIC respectueux des principes et politiques d'AFRINIC. Pouvez vous me dire en quoi cette discussion n'a pas sa raison d'être sur cette même liste de discussion. De grâce ne supportez sans discernement les gens qui veulent tout faire pour étouffer cette affaire. Soyez objectif dans vos réactions. Merci </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cordialement</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--</div><div dir="auto">Arnaud </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le sam. 6 juin 2020 à 22:24, BINEMO SHADIMIADI Jean Guelord <<a href="mailto:guelordshadimiadi@gmail.com">guelordshadimiadi@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Bonjour et Bonsoir chers tous, je commence par mon adage « Ver qu’on fait</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> plus de cas de l’opinion que la vie ; on se battait pour se venger</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> ou se faire des ennemies ? Cette sauvagerie développait à un</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">haut degré de l’énergie individuel, elle formait des amitiés solides,</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">mais elle ôtait à l’opinion de tout son pouvoir. La société se divisait</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> en petit group bien unis, mais chacun autours d’un protecteurs</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">. »</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Chers tous, j’ai croit que nous oublions la mission que nous avons ici</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">, et on se focalise sur le personne, les intérêts personnel et le débat</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> sur les hors normes d’AFRINIC ; je demande à toute un chacun de</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">bien vouloir mettre de l’eau dans son pot de vin !</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Se réfèrent au message de ABDULKARIM je cite (Your last email has clearly</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> violated the last warning earlier issued by the Co-Chair. Therefore</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> we are left with no choice than to moderate any</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> email you send onto this mailing list. This would be reviewed after a week.</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">I would have to say that this is a very slippery slope we are treading down</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">.) ; ne pouvez pas nous amener à se contre attaquer comme si on était</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> ennemies plus tôt nous sommes membres d’une même communauté et</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">chacun dans son coin cherche le bien de la communauté AFRI NIC, si on se</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> référence à de principes de débat : il ya la tolérance, unité, universalité</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> et le respect des opinons des uns et autres, alors commençons</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> par d’abord respecter l’opinion de ABDULKARIM, puis vérifions</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> si cela viole les normes de débat dans le PDP et en faire le</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">proposition au cochairs pour soit retirer le débat ou recadre le débat</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">.</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Si des cochairs sont élus par la Communauté, principalement pour organisent</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> et modèrent des discussions autour du PDP. C’est-à-dire les</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> cochaires ont aussi le pouvoir de retirer un débat qui ne met pas</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">les membres de la communauté en unité, en paix pour le bien de</span> <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">l’évolution de l’internet en Afrique ou donner les orientations. Concentrons-nous</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> sur notre mission pour lequel nous sommes ici, évitons</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> de personnaliser le débat, de se rendre justice tant que les cochaires</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> sont là. Personnellement je soutien et respecte l’avis ABDULKARIM</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> puisque cela reste sont point de vie. Et demandent à tout le</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> monde d’orienter le débat sur l’évolution que nous mettre dans la défense</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> des personnes.</span></b></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le sam. 6 juin 2020 à 19:26, <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor,<br>
If Not Criminal, Netizenship (Marcus K. G. Adomey)<br>
2. Re: RPD Digest, Vol 165, Issue 13 (Blaise Fyama)<br>
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 17:20:10 +0000<br>
From: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br>
To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>><br>
Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>,<br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very<br>
Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship<br>
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Dear Abdulkarim,<br>
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You were disruptive by trying to prevent the discussions to ever happen or happen on rpd.<br>
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The bad actions and examples shall be allowed to be called out strongly.<br>
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Community ignored your rant and kept discussions going without cochairs and made progress.<br>
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The community does not elect cochairs to censor discussions while chosing which topics to be discussed on rpd list.<br>
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While enforcing CoC is part of your role, it does not prescribe what I said above. In fact, you have so far not been able to provide an official reason for censorship of posts by Noah, a senior member of this community<br>
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Community elected cochairs are expected to be neutral and mainly organize and moderate discussions around the PDP. This is one more question about your neutrality<br>
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As we kept saying, a well organized and structured discussion style would prevent many deviations and encourage more participation.<br>
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Cultural and linguistic diversities plus different levels of expertise, which all make the beauty of our community, have to be well exploited for the good.<br>
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Many people feel frustrated and under attack with responses from others because of the differences in the understandings.<br>
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Marcus<br>
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From: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>><br>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:09 PM<br>
To: Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Murungi Daniel <<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>>; Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship<br>
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Dear Marcus,<br>
Yes, I agree that the follow-up discussion was useful and am sure you would agree with us that it became useful when no one felt under attack.<br>
Its that type of discussions that the code of conduct we all signed up to permits. We were never disruptive maybe you meant constructive as we were only doing the job the community elected us to do.<br>
Cheers<br>
Co-Chair<br>
Cheers and Have<br>
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On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
I have not seen any response to this query and the followup discussions on the incident on rpd has proven to be useful for the mandate and scope of the PDP.<br>
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You were just disruptive and you must stop this recurrent censorship as others have said.<br>
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Please reinstate immediately Noah?s posting rights with apologies.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Marcus<br>
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From: Murungi Daniel <<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>>><br>
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:11 PM<br>
To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>><br>
Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>>; <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship<br>
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Dear Abdulkarim,<br>
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Kindly elaborate on the details of the personal attack and chaos you mentioned in your last email.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Daniel<br>
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On May 31, 2020, at 10:14 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Dear Murungi,<br>
I have no issues with transparency, infact what I want is transparency. What we don't want is chaos. I don't think you would tolerate someone attacking you personally.<br>
Thanks<br>
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On Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:36 Murungi Daniel, <<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>>> wrote:<br>
+1 @Mark Tinka.<br>
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@Abdulkarim, it seems you have an issue with transparency on this list. Granted, some of Noah?s words may be heavy handed ( he is a passionate fellow) but I see no cause for the action you are proposing.<br>
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Your ?power? as Co -PWGD is not to be wielded for stifling member voices or punishing what you perceive to be a personal slight.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Daniel<br>
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> On May 31, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Mark Tinka <<a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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> On 30/May/20 08:11, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:<br>
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>> Dear Noah,<br>
>> Your last email has clearly violated the last warning earlier issued<br>
>> by the Co-Chair. Therefore we are left with no choice than to moderate<br>
>> any email you send onto this mailing list. This would be reviewed<br>
>> after a week.<br>
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> I would have to say that this is a very slippery slope we are treading down.<br>
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> Mark.<br>
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 19:25:37 +0200<br>
From: Blaise Fyama <<a href="mailto:bfyama@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bfyama@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Josu? Vangu <<a href="mailto:vangumabika@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">vangumabika@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 165, Issue 13<br>
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Pour ma part une intimidation savamment moul?e dans une r?clamation n'est<br>
pas bonne.<br>
Si nous nous consid?rions les uns les autres on comprendrait que dans tous<br>
nos ?crits il ya la lettre et l'esprit de la lettre.<br>
Les attaques sybillines et cibl?es que l'on se m?ne sous couvert dans le<br>
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Ce qui est juste est juste!<br>
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Le sam. 6 juin 2020 ? 18:53, Josu? Vangu <<a href="mailto:vangumabika@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">vangumabika@gmail.com</a>> a ?crit :<br>
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> Bonsoir ? tous,<br>
><br>
> Je pense que nous devons rester focus et ?volutif sur les discussions des<br>
> politiques, s'attarder sur le sujet nous m?nent ? rien.<br>
><br>
> Il y a eu un avertissement pr?c?dent, s'il n'a pas ?t? respect? quoi de<br>
> plus normal que de subir des mesures disciplinaires qui seront revus dans<br>
> une semaine comme j'ai lu, laissons les copr?sidents faire leur travail.<br>
><br>
> --------<br>
> Josu? Vangu<br>
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> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S9<br>
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>> 1. Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor,<br>
>> If Not Criminal, Netizenship (Arnaud AMELINA)<br>
>> 2. Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor,<br>
>> If Not Criminal, Netizenship (Taiwo Oyewande)<br>
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>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 04:08:21 +0000<br>
>> From: Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>><br>
>> Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>,<br>
>> "<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very<br>
>> Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship<br>
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>> Abdulkarim, je n'ai pas du tout l'impression que ton jugement sur cette<br>
>> liste de discussion soit ?quitable. Il semblerait que certaines personnes<br>
>> ont le droit de dire tout ce qu'ils veulent et d'intimider (ce que le code<br>
>> de conduite interdit) les autres contributeurs , sans que tu ne te<br>
>> manifeste. Par contre tu t'acharnes sur d'autres contributeurs ? chacune<br>
>> de<br>
>> leur intervention comme si tu recevais des instructions pour le faire. De<br>
>> gr?ce arr?tes ?a et fait le job pour lequel tu as ?t? ?lu .<br>
>><br>
>> En quoi est-ce une attaque que de d?noncer une usurpation de ressources<br>
>> (ASN) d'un client par un autre client d'Afrinic constituerait une attaque<br>
>> personnelle comme stipul? dans le code de conduite? Soit objectif et<br>
>> ?quitable dans tes d?cisions.<br>
>><br>
>> Cordialement<br>
>><br>
>> Arnaud<br>
>><br>
>> Le ven. 5 juin 2020 ? 21:11, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>> a ?crit :<br>
>><br>
>> > Dear Marcus,<br>
>> > Yes, I agree that the follow-up discussion was useful and am sure you<br>
>> > would agree with us that it became useful when no one felt under attack.<br>
>> > Its that type of discussions that the code of conduct we all signed up<br>
>> to<br>
>> > permits. We were never disruptive maybe you meant constructive as we<br>
>> were<br>
>> > only doing the job the community elected us to do.<br>
>> > Cheers<br>
>> > Co-Chair<br>
>> > Cheers and Have<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> I have not seen any response to this query and the followup discussions<br>
>> >> on the incident on rpd has proven to be useful for the mandate and<br>
>> scope of<br>
>> >> the PDP.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> You were just disruptive and you must stop this recurrent censorship as<br>
>> >> others have said.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Please reinstate immediately Noah?s posting rights with apologies.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Regards,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Marcus<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ------------------------------<br>
>> >> *From:* Murungi Daniel <<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>><br>
>> >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:11 PM<br>
>> >> *To:* ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>><br>
>> >> *Cc:* Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>;<br>
>> <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
>> >> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very<br>
>> >> Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Dear Abdulkarim,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Kindly elaborate on the details of the personal attack and chaos you<br>
>> >> mentioned in your last email.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Regards,<br>
>> >> Daniel<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On May 31, 2020, at 10:14 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Dear Murungi,<br>
>> >> I have no issues with transparency, infact what I want is transparency.<br>
>> >> What we don't want is chaos. I don't think you would tolerate someone<br>
>> >> attacking you personally.<br>
>> >> Thanks<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:36 Murungi Daniel, <<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> +1 @Mark Tinka.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> @Abdulkarim, it seems you have an issue with transparency on this list.<br>
>> >> Granted, some of Noah?s words may be heavy handed ( he is a passionate<br>
>> >> fellow) but I see no cause for the action you are proposing.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Your ?power? as Co -PWGD is not to be wielded for stifling member<br>
>> voices<br>
>> >> or punishing what you perceive to be a personal slight.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Regards,<br>
>> >> Daniel<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> > On May 31, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Mark Tinka <<a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > On 30/May/20 08:11, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >> Dear Noah,<br>
>> >> >> Your last email has clearly violated the last warning earlier<br>
>> issued<br>
>> >> >> by the Co-Chair. Therefore we are left with no choice than to<br>
>> moderate<br>
>> >> >> any email you send onto this mailing list. This would be reviewed<br>
>> >> >> after a week.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > I would have to say that this is a very slippery slope we are<br>
>> treading<br>
>> >> down.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Mark.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > _______________________________________________<br>
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>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Website <<a href="http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/</a>>, Weekly Bulletin<br>
>> >> <<a href="http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/index.php/bulletin" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/index.php/bulletin</a>> UGPortal<br>
>> >> <<a href="http://uilugportal.unilorin.edu.ng/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://uilugportal.unilorin.edu.ng/</a>> PGPortal<br>
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>> >><br>
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>> >><br>
>> > Website <<a href="http://www.unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.unilorin.edu.ng</a>>, Weekly Bulletin<br>
>> > <<a href="http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/index.php/bulletin" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/index.php/bulletin</a>> UGPortal<br>
>> > <<a href="http://uilugportal.unilorin.edu.ng/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://uilugportal.unilorin.edu.ng/</a>> PGPortal<br>
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>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 09:50:21 +0100<br>
>> From: Taiwo Oyewande <<a href="mailto:taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>,<br>
>> "<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very<br>
>> Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship<br>
>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:57D0144E-FDAD-452E-8352-D2D229EBFA39@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">57D0144E-FDAD-452E-8352-D2D229EBFA39@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> Good day,<br>
>><br>
>> I think the co-chairs are doing the job they were elected to do and we<br>
>> should commend them for a great job so far. Just as @Murungi stated, Noah<br>
>> had some heavy handed words. Also the co-chairs stated -rightfully- that<br>
>> those messages were out of scope and the RPD mailing list be used only for<br>
>> policy discussions to determine a way forward in the community.<br>
>> I also agree with Marcus that Noah had some constructive points laid out<br>
>> especially after the stern warning was given. I think the co-chairs should<br>
>> be applauded for repositioning Noah?s great knowledge back to the focus of<br>
>> the list and to further tap his experience towards the development of the<br>
>> community.<br>
>> Please let us all keep positive, progressive and ofcos, safe.<br>
>><br>
>> Taiwo<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> > On 6 Jun 2020, at 05:12, Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ?<br>
>> > Abdulkarim, je n'ai pas du tout l'impression que ton jugement sur cette<br>
>> liste de discussion soit ?quitable. Il semblerait que certaines personnes<br>
>> ont le droit de dire tout ce qu'ils veulent et d'intimider (ce que le code<br>
>> de conduite interdit) les autres contributeurs , sans que tu ne te<br>
>> manifeste. Par contre tu t'acharnes sur d'autres contributeurs ? chacune de<br>
>> leur intervention comme si tu recevais des instructions pour le faire. De<br>
>> gr?ce arr?tes ?a et fait le job pour lequel tu as ?t? ?lu .<br>
>> ><br>
>> > En quoi est-ce une attaque que de d?noncer une usurpation de ressources<br>
>> (ASN) d'un client par un autre client d'Afrinic constituerait une attaque<br>
>> personnelle comme stipul? dans le code de conduite? Soit objectif et<br>
>> ?quitable dans tes d?cisions.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cordialement<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Arnaud<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> Le ven. 5 juin 2020 ? 21:11, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>> a ?crit :<br>
>> >> Dear Marcus,<br>
>> >> Yes, I agree that the follow-up discussion was useful and am sure you<br>
>> would agree with us that it became useful when no one felt under attack.<br>
>> >> Its that type of discussions that the code of conduct we all signed up<br>
>> to permits. We were never disruptive maybe you meant constructive as we<br>
>> were only doing the job the community elected us to do.<br>
>> >> Cheers<br>
>> >> Co-Chair<br>
>> >> Cheers and Have<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>> I have not seen any response to this query and the followup<br>
>> discussions on the incident on rpd has proven to be useful for the mandate<br>
>> and scope of the PDP.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> You were just disruptive and you must stop this recurrent censorship<br>
>> as others have said.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Please reinstate immediately Noah?s posting rights with apologies.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Regards,<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Marcus<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> From: Murungi Daniel <<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>><br>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:11 PM<br>
>> >>> To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>><br>
>> >>> Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
>> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very<br>
>> Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Dear Abdulkarim,<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Kindly elaborate on the details of the personal attack and chaos you<br>
>> mentioned in your last email.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Regards,<br>
>> >>> Daniel<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>>> On May 31, 2020, at 10:14 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Dear Murungi,<br>
>> >>>> I have no issues with transparency, infact what I want is<br>
>> transparency. What we don't want is chaos. I don't think you would tolerate<br>
>> someone attacking you personally.<br>
>> >>>> Thanks<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> On Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:36 Murungi Daniel, <<a href="mailto:dmurungi@wia.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dmurungi@wia.co.tz</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>> +1 @Mark Tinka.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> @Abdulkarim, it seems you have an issue with transparency on this<br>
>> list. Granted, some of Noah?s words may be heavy handed ( he is a<br>
>> passionate fellow) but I see no cause for the action you are proposing.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Your ?power? as Co -PWGD is not to be wielded for stifling member<br>
>> voices or punishing what you perceive to be a personal slight.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Regards,<br>
>> >>>> Daniel<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> > On May 31, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Mark Tinka <<a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mark.tinka@seacom.mu</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> > On 30/May/20 08:11, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:<br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> >> Dear Noah,<br>
>> >>>> >> Your last email has clearly violated the last warning earlier<br>
>> issued<br>
>> >>>> >> by the Co-Chair. Therefore we are left with no choice than to<br>
>> moderate<br>
>> >>>> >> any email you send onto this mailing list. This would be reviewed<br>
>> >>>> >> after a week.<br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> > I would have to say that this is a very slippery slope we are<br>
>> treading down.<br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> > Mark.<br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> >>>> > RPD mailing list<br>
>> >>>> > <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
>> >>>> > <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Website, Weekly Bulletin UGPortal PGPortal<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Website, Weekly Bulletin UGPortal PGPortal<br>
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