<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Anthony <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In response to several other comments as well - </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><ul class="MailOutline"><li class="">I appreciate Mark Tinka raising this issue</li><li class="">this sordid tale seems to have more than one side</li><li class="">I do not believe I (or possibly anyone else on this list) is able to pass judgement on this particular incident - as we lack all of the relevant facts or technical or legal background, or have conflicts.</li></ul><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">However there may be some useful learning from this incident and the need for new policies, revision to existing policies or better enforcement of policies.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rather than debate if this was a personal attack (or not), or out of scope of the RPD list (or not), let us try bring this back to the purpose of this list - a discussion of AfriNIC’s policy environment.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Can someone please extrapolate from this regrettable incident what *policy* changes (or implementation changes) are required? If possible with some analysis of whether the consequences thereof are justified to prevent the harm being sought to be addressed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mike</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 26 May 2020, at 20:03, Anthony Ubah <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" class="">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">I feel this
is gradually brewing up and steering up an unnecessary tension within the
community.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">I took time
to go through the trail, the post shared by the CEO of Cloud Innovation contained a
email by IPDC in which they have already openly apologized for their mistake(s).</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">On the
other hand, heaping all blame on Cloud Innovation isn’t totally logical. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">From my
understanding, IPDC hijacked SEACOM’s ASN, IPDC being Cloud Innovation’s
customer. However, I don’t clearly see what role it plays in the whole process.
Predict ing it’s customer’s behaviour is scarcely possible, hardly any company can. Also is the company in the position/business to care of it per se, and without
violation of privacy?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">A typical example
is a Kitchenware store; If the store sells a knife to an individual, and the individual uses the same knife to commit a crime, would the hardware store also be held partly
accountable for the crime? </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Thus, whatever
the problem is IPDC should settle its differences directly with SEACOM</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class=""><br class=""></span></p><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p style="line-height:150%" class=""><b style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="line-height:150%" class=""><font face="garamond, serif" class="">Best Regards,</font></span></b></p><p style="line-height:150%" class=""><font face="garamond, serif" class=""><b style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="line-height:150%" class="">Anthony</span></b></font></p><p style="text-align:left" class=""><font size="2" color="#999999" face="garamond, serif" class=""><span style="line-height:150%;background-color:white" class="">E-mail: <a href="mailto:anthony.ubah@gloworld.com" target="_blank" class="">anthony.ubah@goldspine.com</a>.ng<br class=""></span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div>Snip</body></html>