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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Noah,</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Thank you for the message personally addressed to me on AFRINIC PDP appeals. I would
like to personally indicate and observe the following since this has been addressed to me
personally:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">1. that issues on AFRINIC PDP Appeals should be addressed <pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net>
and not to me personally.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">2. That, as I understand it, each appeal is handled by the Appeal Committee individually.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">3. That if you, as you have indicated below, agree that this first 2020 Appeal did not satisfy
the conditions as in Section 5 of the ToR of the Appeal Committee, then that should surely
close the case on this Appeal.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">4. That the resolution of the Appeal Committee is final.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">These are my personal indications and observations and I do not speak here for the Appeals
Committee.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Regards,</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Paulos</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">======================</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Dr Paulos B Nyirenda</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">On 20 Apr 2020 at 16:18, Noah wrote:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Hi Paulos and Team,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> I hope that you are all keeping safe insight of the on-going challenging times.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> I did observe the saga on the last appeal against co-chairs decision of no consensus on the AS0 </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ROA proposal and I went back to do some readings including the PDP section on appeals, the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> appeal committee ToR, previous appeal, appeal committee decision on the previous appeal, the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> last appeal and the appeal committee decision. All this can be seen at the link </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee#appeals </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> I also noted the requirements set in the ToR that an appeal must be supported by three people and </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> the support must be sent via Email in a certain format. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> I checked the composition of the appeal filed in 2018. It says the following: [ The complainants, Mr. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Owen Delong, Mr. Sander Stefan, Mr. Mark Elkins, Mr. Andrew Alston and Mr. Saul Stein, all </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> clearly indicated on the mailing lists in good faith, a belief that the declaration of consensus was in </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> error – this fulfills section 5.1.b of the appeal process. ]</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> There are no mails from the folks mentioned above that were attached to the appeal. The appeal </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> was accepted and the appeal committee deliberated on it. The decision says as below: </span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> [ III. Receipt of the “Appeal against the declared consensus of AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07” </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Softlanding-bis policy proposal The Committee received an “Appeal against the declared </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> consensus of AFPUB- 2016-V4-001-DRAFT07” Softlanding-bis policy proposal which is published </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> as required by the ToR at the following URL: </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> https://www.afrinic.net/en/community/working-groups/policy-appeal/appeals The Committee </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> reviewed and confirmed that the Appeal filed is in accordance to Section 5 of the ToR of the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Appeal Committee. ]</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Now, the last appeal filed started with " We are appealing against the declaration" and stated that;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> [The authors are also convinced, according to the discussion in the list, that other community </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> members are supporting this appeal, even if this is not needed according to CPM 3.5.1 ] </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> The appeal was rejected with the motive below ;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> [ V. Final assessment of the Appeal Committee on the Appeal According to the PDWG Appeal </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Committee Terms of Reference (https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee#tor) section 5.2(d), the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> appeal has not met the requirements for filing. “The complaint must be supported by three (3) </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> persons who have participated in the discussions relating to the matter under appeal. 8 (That is, </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> three (3) persons other than the complainant.) 9 Said support must be expressed by an email </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> message from each of the supporters to the Appeal committee. Each of these email messages </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> must include a statement that the individual participated in discussions attempting to resolve the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> dispute and that those discussions failed to resolve the dispute.” VI. Conclusion The Committee </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> resolves that the filed appeal is not valid. ]</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Now I do have a few questions that came into mind: </span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> 1. Why such differences in the treatment of appeals? </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> 2. If the AC erred for their 2018's decision and didn't this set precedence ? It is noted that three </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> members who served in the 2018 AC are serving in 2020 AC as well.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> 3. On which ground is the AC really acting? Refusing to follow the conflict resolution section of the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> PDP as required in Section 4 (working methods) of the ToR and instead enforcing requirements in </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> section 5 (filling an appeal) of the same ToR?</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> [ 4.6. The committee shall ensure that any appeal received is in line with the requirements of the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Conflict Resolution section of the AFRINIC Policy Development 3 Process. ]</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Seems to me that the entire appeal process looks ambiguous and must be clarified as a matter of </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> urgency.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ./noah</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:36 PM Dr P Nyirenda <paulos@sdnp.org.mw> wrote:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> PDWG,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> I would like to advise that the AFRINIC PDWG Appeal Committee has finalised processing </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> of this submission by Jordi Palet Martinez on 12 Feb 2020 concerning co-chair last call </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> decision on AFPUB-2019-GEN-006-DRAFT01 as copied here below. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> The Appeal Committee has produced its final report including minutes of its discussions and </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> these are all available at: https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee#appeals</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> This closes all issues on this submission made for appeal.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Regards,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Paulos</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ======================================</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Dr Paulos B Nyirenda</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Malawi SDNP PC: http://www.sdnp.org.mw</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD http://www.registrar.mw</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Chair: MISPA http://www.mispa.org.mw</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Chair: AFRINIC Appeal Committee</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> On 12 Feb 2020 at 21:04, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd@afrinic.net></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> To: <pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net>, rpd List <rpd@afrinic.net></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Subject: [rpd] appeal about last call decision on</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> AFPUB-2019-GEN-006-DRAFT01 "RPKI ROAs for</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space"</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Date sent: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 21:04:25 +0100</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Send reply to: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Dear Appeal Committee,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > We are appealing against the declaration of no-consensus made by the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > PDWG co-chairs on 29th of January</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > (https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010326.html), after the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > previous declaration of consensus in the last PPM, indicating "some</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > critical objections", following CPM 3.5.2.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > There was not an explicit indication of what are those "critical</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > objections", and instead, the co-authors, and other community members</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > have addressed all them.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > It is also noticeable that those objections are not "critical" and</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > they were raised already during the PPM and consensus was declared. It</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > is also interesting that people from the community, which are</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > recognized experts, and was opposing to every other policy proposal</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > during the PPM said "this is a good one" (speaking from top of my</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > head, while writing this appeal, so maybe the wording is not precise).</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > In fact, those objections could be applied to any policy proposal, as</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > they are related to "human errors, implementation, etc.", which will</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > mean that reverting this consensus decision in this proposal, will</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > make clearly vulnerable the complete PDP because the same arguments</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > can be repeated for any other proposal, and the implementation is out</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > of the scope of a policy proposal, unless the proposal enters in those</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > details or the staff has already provided any warning about concrete</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > issues during the proposal presentation, which was not the case.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > In fact, this proposal, using the same text, has reached consensus in</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > APNIC, ratified by the board, and it is being implemented, so if the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > APNIC staff has not provided non-resolvable implementations issues, it</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > is difficult to believe that they may happen in AFRINIC (or any other</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > RIR).</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Furthermore, we believe that the explanations provided during the last</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > call to every objection were successfully refuted, not just by</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > co-authors, but also by other member of the community, as already</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > mention before, and none of them suggested that any change in the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > proposal is required. As a consequence, our understanding is that</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > those objections are not sustained and understanding the meaning of</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > rough consensus and last call, as per RFC7282, which all the RIR PDPs</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > are based upon.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > There is also a generic and non-justified objection, repeated several</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > times, regarding the miss-usage of the RPKI by governments, which is</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > not the case, and it is not something that could be done by means of</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > this proposal, but instead, enacting government control over the RIRs.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > It seems to indicate that the authors of those objections don't have a</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > complete or precise view or knowledge about the RIRs and even less</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > about RPKI and the related RFCs.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > The authors requested the objectors to justify that, and answers were</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > not provided, just repetitions of the same objection. It is clear that</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > neither for the consensus declaration in the mailing list or PPM and</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > even less in the last call, a non-clearly-justified objection can be</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > taken in consideration to reverse the consensus decision.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > That original co-chairs email was not providing a rational for that</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > decision, and instead it suggested that more discussion was needed,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > but it was no clear, if they were extending the last call (CPM 3.4.3),</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > and after insisting today, they send a reconfirmation</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > (https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010391.html) or that</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > decision.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > It should be noted that we have asked the chairs in several occasions</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > to reconsider their decision, following CPM 3.5.1</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > (https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010327.html,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010350.html,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010377.html,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010380.html,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010383.html), and no</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > further explanation of the "critical objections" and a clear rational</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > for defining the critical objections and if the responses from authors</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > and community addressed them, as we believe clearly is the case, has</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > been provided.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > We have replied again to the co-chairs response</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > (https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010392.html), which</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > hopefully can also help the Appeal Committee to declare that the last</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > call has succeeded and consequently the consensus decision needs to be</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > sustained and the proposal needs to be sent to the board for</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > ratification, following the PDP.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > The authors are also convinced, according to the discussion in the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > list, that other community members are supporting this appeal, even if</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > this is not needed according to CPM 3.5.1.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > We remain at your dispossal for further clarifications which may help</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > to resolve this appeal as soon as possible.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Thanks in avance for your work!</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
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