<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 18, 2020, at 14:52 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="EstiloCorreo21" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hi Sami,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="EstiloCorreo21" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="EstiloCorreo21" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">(moved the discussion to the right place)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="EstiloCorreo21" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="EstiloCorreo21" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">The problem I see is that the PDP doesn’t allow a virtual PDWG plenary:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="EstiloCorreo21" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">“3.3 The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG) discusses the proposals. Anyone may participate via the Internet or in person. PDWG work is carried out through the Resource Policy Discussion mailing list (</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">) and the bi-annual AFRINIC Public Policy Meetings (PPM). Any person, participating either in person or remotely, is considered to be part of the Policy Development Working Group.”</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>How is “In person or Remote” a prohibition of Remote only?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>If the count in the room is 0 and the number of remote participants is N, then you still have N people legitimately participating in the PPM.</div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">We may “trick” it by making an AFRINIC Public Policy Meeting, for example in the AFRINIC office if it can host “some in person participants”(possibly the co-chairs at a minimum, I will suggest also the proposal co-authors) and then all the others remotely.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">The main problem is if we have a sufficiently good system to allow remote participation for hundreds of people, allow the co-chairs to manage the discussions and then gauge consensus.</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Yes… That’s certainly the only concern I see with a 100% remote meeting. I don’t see a need to have the co-chairs or the proposal co-authors expose themselves and others to the unnecessary risks of travel at this time vs. having everyone work remotely.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>We are engineers building the internet… Surely we can manage a remote meeting if we set our minds to it.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Jordi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">@jordipalet<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">El 18/3/20 22:15, "afnog en nombre de Sami Salih" <<a href="mailto:afnog-bounces@afnog.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">afnog-bounces@afnog.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>en nombre de<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>> escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Salam<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Thx Nancy for the information,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">However, I didn't like the announcement as it is posted. I have few comments:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">1- whether you define a date to postpone the event, or just cancel it.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">2- AFNOG and AFRINIC and other AF* events should align there announcements.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">3- it's seems early to send such email when we are not sure about what is the situation will be in the comming 2.5 months, I recall that AFRINIC always have plan B just a month before the event.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">My suggestion is to cancel AFNOG and other AF* for this year and make it next year in the same host country.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">AFRINIC PDWG and Plenary to be conducted online for two days, I prefer weekend.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Salam.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Get<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://aka.ms/ghei36" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Outlook for Android</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><hr size="0" width="100%" align="center" class=""></div><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="" class="">From:</span></b><span style="" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>afnog <<a href="mailto:afnog-bounces@afnog.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">afnog-bounces@afnog.org</a>> on behalf of Mathias HOUNGBO <<a href="mailto:mathias@houngbo.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mathias@houngbo.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:32:58 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>nancy dotse <<a href="mailto:nancy@ghana.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nancy@ghana.com</a>>; Afnog <<a href="mailto:afnog@afnog.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">afnog@afnog.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [afnog] AIS 2020 - POSTPONEMENT</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">Thanks Nancy for the update.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">--<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">First learn the rules, Then break them to learn.<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Le 18/03/2020 à 16:43, nancy dotse a écrit :<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">Dear All,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">Good afternoon.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">On 16 March 2020, AfNOG, AFRINIC and the Local Host (ISPA-DRC) had another meeting to re-assess the Corona Virus pandemic as well as logistic issues.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">Unfortunately we concluded that a change of plans was mandatory to safeguard the health of our members, community and staff. <o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">Thus, we agreed that it is best to postpone the AIS 2020 Workshop & Conference to a later date. We will continue to monitor the situation and adopt precautionary measures to ensure everyone’s well-being.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">Further, we will communicate decisions taken in consultation with all stakeholders, and will advise on new AIS 2020 dates and<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">the way forward in due course.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">Please stay safe.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">Kind regards<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">Nancy<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left: 35.4pt;" class="">AfNOG<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">_______________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; 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