<div dir="auto">Marcus,<br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I dont think Owen will ever understand what we are talking about. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I believe since Jordi is not conflicted that is why he was able to see through what everyone is concerned about hence his very simple proposal.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">I hope that AfriNIC Limited in listening..... </span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">There must be transparency when it comes to this matter.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, 06:08 Owen DeLong, <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Confused by your statement that “attempting to influence people’s opinions about policies is an abuse of the PDP.”<div><br></div><div>As to my opinion of Jordi’s proposal, I think some portions of it have merit, but the devil is in the details. I have no interest in engaging in a public discussion of the finer points on this mater, however, as I have no real dog in that fight. I do not believe that Jordi’s proposal would increase transparency or significantly improve the quality of our fellowship program.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 29, 2020, at 08:17 , Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Hi Owen,</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>You wrote </b></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><i><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">"</span><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">I am confused… The entire purpose of this list is for us to discuss </span><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;color:rgb(32,31,30)">and</span><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"> attempt to influence people’s opinions about policies. The only way we can ever come to consensus is by influencing people’s opinions through discussion."</span></i></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><span>Confused with all which has been said on this thread?<span> </span><br></span><div><br></div><div>Can you please respond to the question in the message [1] It will help us move on.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Marcus<br></div><div><br></div><div>[1]<span> </span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010501.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010501.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><span></span><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div id="m_-595579882719044830appendonsend"></div><div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br></div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:1684.609375px"><div id="m_-595579882719044830divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b><span> </span>Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">owen@delong.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday, February 24, 2020 12:50 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span>Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">noah@neo.co.tz</a>>; AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP</font><div> </div></div><div><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"><div>> Lastly, I thought the abuse of the PDP exposed and discussed here is about a  certain company influencing people views and  opinions in a PDP, where contributions are from individuals and views and opinions are only theirs.<br><br>I am confused… The entire purpose of this list is for us to discuss and attempt to influence people’s opinions about policies. The only way we can ever come to consensus is by influencing people’s opinions through discussion.<br><br>That is the PDP, not an abuse of the PDP. Please explain the abuse to me.<br><br>Owen</div></span></font></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>