<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Hi Nishal,<br><br>I am glad to finally see some conversations on these topics and thanks for your contributions.<br><br>The RPD is indeed the appropriate forum to discuss these issues as it is directly related to the management, distribution and usage of the INRs.<br><br>Your reaction to the cochairs unbelievable decision on the AS0 ROAs proposal did not go unnoticed and I see you mentioning AS0 ROA as one of the solution to the problem being discussed here, as relates to continued routing of <b>hijacked prefixes</b> as bogons.<br><br>How could one understand the Co-Chairs decision about the AS0 ROA in this context without giving the impression that the rot has set in and that there seems to exist some cover-up game going on?<br><br>We as a community should join the campaign against the routing of these prefixes by porting the message, filtering these special bogons on our networks etc.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>- Greg</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000" dir="auto"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Nishal Goburdhan <nishal@controlfreak.co.za> </div><div>Date: 2020-02-05 2:42 a.m. (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd@afrinic.net> </div><div>Subject: Re: [rpd] Afrinic Scandals, future and the PDP </div><div><br></div></div>On 5 Feb 2020, at 2:37, Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote:<br><br>> Dear All,<br>> Relating to points I tried to make here and did not see much traction, <br>> here is more about the AFRINIC INRs theft saga.<br>> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/routing-wg/2020-January/003987.html<br>> I wonder why this is not discussed here and we as community not <br>> taking our part of the ToDo?<br><br>because there is very little discussion to be had, tbh.<br>afrinic is reviewing these, and has already announced that it has <br>reclaimed several blocks. so, unless<br># you have investigative skills that you can use to assist afrinic; or<br># you have credible data that you can provide to afrinic to prove <br>allocation/assignment claims; or<br># have enable on a network that’s routing these once exposed to be <br>illegitimate;<br>.. pontificating on public lists isn’t a useful exercise.<br><br>tl;dr - proper investigations take time ..<br><br>otoh, since this is RPD, and to move this to something relevant to this <br>list, if afrinic could issue AS0 ROAs for the illegitimate <br>assigned/allocated blocks, once they have been reclaimed, then once <br>problem that the author reports could easily be resolved.<br><br>“.. much of this "reclaimed" space is still being routed as<br>I write this. The only difference is that now the space is being<br>routed as bogons, rather than as "legitimately" allocated space.”<br><br>-n.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br>RPD@afrinic.net<br>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd<br></body></html>