<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I support Pascal on this. <div><br><div>A detailed list of objections will help the community have better understanding of the discussions. </div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Taiwo</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On 1 Feb 2020, at 09:33, Paschal Ochang <<a href="mailto:pascosoft@gmail.com">pascosoft@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">I think its usually impossible to track all objections raised. It might be too much of a workload for the cochairs to track objections and map them to answers to come out with a conclusion. However, just as people here have said they can request for help. Furthermore, I think the authors can also assist in doing that during their responses to objections cos it will be easier to document that way to show a documented addressing of objections to prove that all has been addressed.<br><br>On Friday, January 31, 2020, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Daniel,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I did a quick search in the list archive. If you’re referring to this email:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010280.html" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>pipermail/rpd/2020/010280.html</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I’ve responded to it (in less than 2 hours):<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010282.html" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>pipermail/rpd/2020/010282.html</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I think it clearly addresses your points.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I recall other people also answered afterwards.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Jordi<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">@jordipalet<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 31/1/20 6:58, "Daniel Yakmut via RPD" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> escribió:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">I don't agree with your submission that; "All of the “objections” I saw seemed to indicate a clear lack of understanding of RPKI in general and the proposal in specific."<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">I particularly raised a concern "<span style="font-size:10.5pt">The current state of RPKI infrastructure, does not provide a sufficient period between revocation of ROA and notification that a given prefix has been allocated to an organization, which can impact considerably on allocations. Except we can be able to provide a sufficient period or create a different procedure, the proposal for the RPKI-ROAs does not fly"</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">and I did not receive any response from the author(s), I suspect this is a concern that is critical and important to possible adoption and implementation this proposal</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">However, I will agree that the author(s) may have been overwhelm with the number of "objections" raised and could not keep track of it and response, hence I will suggest that the co-chairs could help by summarising the objections for the action of the author(s).</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Simply.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Dan</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On 31/01/2020 3:18 am, Owen DeLong wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">I agree with Nishal, Jordi, and Frank.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">All of the “objections” I saw seemed to indicate a clear lack of understanding of RPKI in general and the proposal in specific.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">All of them raised concerns that simply don’t fit the facts of what is being proposed.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">I did not see any legitimate or critical objections. If there is something I missed, please enumerate it (them) for the edification of the list.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">Owen<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Jan 29, 2020, at 03:58 , Nishal Goburdhan <a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za" target="_blank"><nishal@controlfreak.co.za></a> wrote:<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">On 29 Jan 2020, at 12:35, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dear PDWG,<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">The following policy proposals have been on the Last call for about 4 weeks<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">1. Multihoming not required for ASN<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">2. Adjusting IPv6 PA Policy<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">3. RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">However, we received some critical objections that should be addressed on<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">the policy named "RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">Space" therefore we believe it requires more discussion.<u></u><u></u></pre></blockquote><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">could you enumerate those “critical objections” please. that would help the authors to fix this for round two.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">from my perspective, the last series of responses, came from a fundamental misunderstanding of what RPKI is, and how it works.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">(bear in mind, that it’s not the authors’ - or this list’s - responsibility to explain RPKI ..)<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">-n.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">______________________________<wbr>_________________<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">RPD mailing list<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><u></u><u></u></pre></blockquote><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">______________________________<wbr>_________________<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">RPD mailing list<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><u></u><u></u></pre></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">______________________________<wbr>_________________ RPD mailing list <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a> <u></u><u></u></p></div><br>******************************<wbr>****************<br>
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