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    <p>Hello Anthony</p>
    <p>The point specifically about the Co-chairs be or not form the
      same country is a good practice to avoid monopolization from a
      single country.<br>
      You are right that 'in theory' the only thing that should matter
      are the candidate requirements, but in practice it may lead to
      scenarios where there is a major participation of people from a
      specific country and they may vote for someone just because he/she
      is from the same country without knowing anything about the
      person.<br>
      While I don't consider this a very critical thing as for example
      the 6 month period to be able to vote, I think it avoids that
      possibility I mentioned which is what is more likely to happen.</p>
    <p>Fernando<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/11/2019 15:56, Anthony Ubah
      wrote:<br>
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              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">Hello Jordie and
              Souad,</span></p>
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              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%"> </span></p>
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              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">I’ve just gone
              through your proposal. Having
              once contested for a chair as co-chair I quite recognize a
              need to revisit the election
              process. However, I don’t agree with the crust of this
              proposal.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">The stated problem
              being addressed (below)
              is accurate, nevertheless personally I find that several
              areas are debatable, t’s
              as evident in the views on the mail trails so far.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
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                style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">“The Policy
                Development Working Group (PDWG)
                discusses very briefly how the chairs are chosen.
                However, there is not
                sufficient detail about the candidate requirements,
                neither a complete process.”</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
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              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">Most
              observations I have made have already been brought
              previously highlighted and
              brought forward by other members of the community, and I
              see that you(Jordi) have
              painstakingly tried to address a few of them, but I will
              still want to reiterate
              a few of mine.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">From
              section 3.3.1 </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
                Both
                chairs can’t be from the same country,</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">except
                in exceptional situations where there are</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">no
                other acceptable candidates, in which case one</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">of
                the
                chairs will cease in their position at the</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">following
                election process (following year), either</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">because
                their term has come to an end or by</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">agreement
                among the two chairs, failing which</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">the
                chair who has held the position the longest</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">will
                automatically cease in their position</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant:
              I am an advocate for freedom and transparency,
              thus I strongly disagree with any form of restrictions due
              to the country of
              origin or resident of the co-chairs. Nomination and
              election should be a matter
              of substance. Like Daniel said <b><i>“Else we may be
                  trading competency for
                  representative”</i></b>. The focus should be on the
              candidates’ competence and motivation.
            </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">From
              Section 3.3.2 </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">3.3.2
                About the election of the Chairs</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
                Voting will be conducted electronically, using</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">mechanisms
                to ensure, as much as possible, that</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">each
                voter can cast only one vote.</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
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style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant:
               </span></p>
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              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">1.<span
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
                New Roman"">    
              </span></span><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Through
              what electronic means? </span></p>
          <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in
            0in 0.0001pt
            0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">2.<span
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
                New Roman"">    
              </span></span><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Solely
              remote voting? When can the community meet and
              interact with the candidates, or do we rely solely on
              credentials and public
              opinions? If so, then what is the need for waiting till
              the next PPM? Run an
              election, conclude and announce results on online.</span></p>
          <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in
            0in 0.0001pt
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              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">3.<span
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
                New Roman"">    
              </span></span><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">How
              can voters be identified for transparency in eligibility
              and vote counting?</span></p>
          <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in
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              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">4.<span
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
                New Roman"">    
              </span></span><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">What
              mechanism is put in place to detect multiple accounts
              run by one person? Because we might be an advent of a
              scenario of account squatting
              for voting purposes. Where one person will register
              multiple dummy accounts in
              anticipation of election time.</span></p>
          <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin:0in
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              style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">5.<span
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
                New Roman"">    
              </span></span><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">How
              can off-net collusion be detected?</span></p>
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style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
                Anyone who has been part of the RPD List for at</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">least
                6
                months prior to the start of the election</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">process
                may participate.</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
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style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant:
              Fair</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
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style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
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style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
                Any
                use of the list for electoral purposes, even</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">when
                by
                persons clearly supportive of a</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">candidate,
                may result in their disqualification, if</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">there
                is evidence of collusion.</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant:
              This is controversial. A member can
              disenfranchise a candidate by running a pseudo campaign in
              his favour, just to
              have that candidate or both disqualified in favour of
              another. Simply put, one
              less voter for one less Candidate. Very unbalanced.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
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                style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">• AFRINIC will
                communicate the names
                of</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
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                style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">Acceptable
                candidates to the RPD List,</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
                style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">announcing where
                candidate information
                will be </span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
                style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">published.</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">The
              term acceptable candidate reflects in
              bullet point 3 of 3.3.1 and bullet point 7 of 3.3.2. Are
              there separate criteria
              stipulated for candidates to measure who fall within the
              “acceptable” threshold,
              or is it the same as voter eligibility as stated in bullet
              point 3 of 3.3.2? If
              not, what other criteria do you recommend for eligibility?
            </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
                A
                period of 10 calendar days will then begin</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">during
                which the community will be able to</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">contribute
                relevant information on the candidates.</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">This
                information, if confirmed, may be published</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">simultaneously
                for all candidates on the first</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">working
                day following the end of the 10-day</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">period.
                As a result of that information, the Board</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">could
                disqualify any candidate.</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant:
              Quite Ambiguous. Kindly rephrase.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
                Voting will begin on the first working Monday</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">after
                the period specified above and will remain</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">open
                for 7 calendar days</span></b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant:
              When can the community meet and interact
              with the candidates? </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
                If
                any objections are raised by a member of the</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">community,
                such objections must be</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">communicated
                to the Board within 7 calendar</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">days
                of
                the announcement of the results. The</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Board
                will then assess whether such objections</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">are
                significant and have been proven. If no</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">objections
                are raised, or if those aren’t</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">considered,
                will proceed to ratify the winning</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">candidate.</span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant:
              As I said before, I am an advocate of a transparent
              system. I think narrowing a lot of things down to the
              Board is a way for
              locking the larger community away from critical decisions.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Drifting
              off a bit to the second trail on the
              subject matter. The existing election process might not be
              perfect, but the
              influence of the local community should not be frowned at.
              The community is encouraged
              to grow, and there is no better opportunity to do that
              than by driving active
              participation of the host community as was witnessed in
              Kampala, where a lot of
              IT students participated actively throughout. </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Curbing
              the local influence of the host country/”newcomer voter’
              in the election process will achieve infinitesimal gain.
              Since the Bi-annual
              PPM is shifted across regions it solves itself
              organically.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">In
              conclusion, I think the intention of
              initiating this proposal is very noble, but I would
              suggest a comprehensive
              review. It is not ready.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Kind
              regards,</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
            8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Anthony</span></p>
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                              style="line-height:150%">UBAH ANTHONY </span></b></font><b
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               1. Re: AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy (Fernando
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            Message: 1<br>
            Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 19:01:58 -0300<br>
            From: Fernando Frediani <<a
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            Subject: Re: [rpd] AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy<br>
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            In practice this situation you describe is very hard to
            happen, we <br>
            cannot have things in place to treat the very unlikely
            situation and <br>
            that Phase 2 is about to happen soon. Until there the vast
            majority or <br>
            organization (really the vast!) can get addresses from
            AfriNic fine.<br>
            I hardly doubt one can justify anything more than a /13 at
            once at the <br>
            moment. Even in a remote hypothesis that is possible the
            organization <br>
            can receive the /13 and work with that until transfers are
            allowed as <br>
            per Jordi's proposal that has been changed to start with
            Phase 2 is <br>
            triggered and that organization will be able to transfer
            whatever else <br>
            is needed.<br>
            One rule for all and much simpler.<br>
            <br>
            Fernando<br>
            <br>
            On 10/11/2019 18:51, Owen DeLong wrote:<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            >> On Nov 10, 2019, at 10:51 , Chevalier du Borg <<a
              href="mailto:virtual.borg@gmail.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">virtual.borg@gmail.com</a> <br>
            >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:virtual.borg@gmail.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">virtual.borg@gmail.com</a>>>
            wrote:<br>
            >><br>
            >><br>
            >><br>
            >> Le?dim. 10 nov. 2019 ??21:58, Jaco Kroon <<a
              href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">jaco@uls.co.za</a> <br>
            >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jaco@uls.co.za</a>>>
            a ?crit?:<br>
            >><br>
            >>     Hi Chevalier.<br>
            >><br>
            >>     Please allow me to be blunt.? That's short
            sighted.<br>
            >><br>
            >>     We cannot transfer IN from other regions unless
            we allow OUT.<br>
            >><br>
            >><br>
            >> Agree 100%,<br>
            >> Then you have no problems with wait till all RIRs
            are equal run out <br>
            >> before we etablish full in and out transfer policy
            no?<br>
            >><br>
            >>     All the other RIRs require reciprocal
            *compatible* policies,<br>
            >>     which means bi-directional transfers.<br>
            >><br>
            >><br>
            >><br>
            >> All RIRs don't all have equal amount of free space.
            Big difference<br>
            ><br>
            > Depending on your definition here, 4 out of 5 have
            exactly equal <br>
            > amount == 0.<br>
            ><br>
            >>     Not allowing this means we can't get resources
            in either.<br>
            >><br>
            >><br>
            >> While AfriNIC have free space, operators don't need
            it<br>
            >> When it run out, then we can allow transfer policy<br>
            ><br>
            > This isn?t entirely true.<br>
            ><br>
            > It?s possible that an operator needs more than they can
            get via <br>
            > current AfriNIC policies due to ?soft landing?
            limitations.<br>
            ><br>
            > In such a case, said operator might prefer to transfer
            a large amount <br>
            > of space in even if they are paying for it on the
            market<br>
            > rather than suffer with the small amount of space they
            can get from <br>
            > AfriNIC due to the current restrictions.<br>
            ><br>
            > Is there a valid reason to preclude such a transfer
            which, in reality, <br>
            > prolongs the AfriNIC free pool to the benefit of other<br>
            > organizations in Africa?<br>
            ><br>
            > Owen<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
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            Message: 2<br>
            Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 22:22:39 +0000<br>
            From: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a
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            Subject: Re: [rpd] new policy proposal:
            AFPUB-2019-GEN-003-DRAFT01:<br>
                    "Chairs Elections Process"<br>
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            Owen see reply in line below<br>
            <br>
            On Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 9:03 PM Owen DeLong <<a
              href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank"
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            <br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > On Nov 10, 2019, at 02:15 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
            RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
            > wrote:<br>
            ><br>
            > Hi Andrew,<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > El 9/11/19 6:19, "Andrew Alston" <<a
              href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br>
            > escribi?:<br>
            ><br>
            > Coupla comments on this one:<br>
            ><br>
            > *In 3.3: **If both Working Group Chairs are unable to
            attend the PPM, the<br>
            > Board will on-the-spot designate a nonconflictive Chair
            for the session,<br>
            > that will be assisted by the staff*<br>
            ><br>
            > I don?t believe the board should designate, it should
            preferably be an on<br>
            > the spot nomination and floor election by show of hands
            or other mechanism<br>
            > at the meeting.  There has been and should remain
            separation between the<br>
            > board and the PDP process ? since it is the boards duty
            to ratify the<br>
            > process followed to declare consensus on any policy
            passed, and hence,<br>
            > should a designate declare consensus on any policy, you
            create a conflict<br>
            > of interest situation.<br>
            ><br>
            > ?    I?m trying to avoid wasting time in the meeting.
            The idea is that<br>
            > this is done up-front the meeting, not during the
            policy session. I?m happy<br>
            > to change that to the nomination committee if you think
            that will resolve<br>
            > the issue. As I mention in my previous email, I didn?t
            want to use the<br>
            > committees references because those are called by the
            board, so it should<br>
            > be the board, if those committees exist, the one that
            delegate the<br>
            > functions. An alternative is to explicitly have some
            text in the policy<br>
            > that indicates that the board is that ?top responsible,
            but it must<br>
            > delegate that functions thru a nomination committee?,
            without entering in<br>
            > this policy on the details of that committee. What do
            you think ?.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > I think that the situation where no co-chair attends
            the meeting is rare<br>
            > and exceptional enough that using some time at the
            meeting to nominate and<br>
            > elect a chair pro tem is a perfectly valid solution and
            that any other<br>
            > solution presented so far is problematic.<br>
            ><br>
            > Also, assuming that we know before the meeting that the
            co-chairs will be<br>
            > unable to attend is a perilous assumption to build into
            the process, IMHO.<br>
            ><br>
            <br>
            Caleb : A clear example of what happened in Kampala where we
            had only a<br>
            Co-chair supported by staff to chair a meeting. How will a
            single co-chair<br>
            measure rough concensus?<br>
            <br>
            What you can't predict is visa rejections or if there is a
            travel ban on<br>
            the country that one of the co-chair is from.<br>
            Imagine a scenario where the two co-chairs are from the same
            country as<br>
            canvassed by some members on this list, what happens at that
            PDP meeting<br>
            when any or both of them suffers visa rejection or there is
            a civil unrest<br>
            in that country leading to travel ban?<br>
            <br>
            We should in most case see the call to even ensure that no
            two Co-chair<br>
            emanate from the same country to reduce the risk exposure of
            the PDPWG and<br>
            uneventful scenarios like that.<br>
            <br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > *In 3.3.1 Bullet point 6: PDWG Chairs will each serve
            staggered two-year<br>
            > terms. PDWG Chairs may only be re-elected for one
            consecutive term but are<br>
            > illegible to run again after a minimum one-year pause.
            *<br>
            ><br>
            > Should that not say they are eligible after a minimum
            one-year pause?  I<br>
            > presume that?s a typo?<br>
            ><br>
            > Yes, definitively, word autocorrection made a trouble
            here!<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > Personally, I am opposed to term limits. We have
            elections. Co-Chairs are<br>
            > up for re-election no less than every two years. If
            people want a new<br>
            > co-chair, they can easily vote for that. Why deprive
            voters of choice? Do<br>
            > you not trust the electorate to make good choices?<br>
            ><br>
            <br>
            Caleb: I do see a valid point of of argument here and I'm
            sure the<br>
            co-authors have taking note of your point.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            ><br>
            > *In 3.3.2 Bullet point 7: AFRINIC will communicate the
            names of acceptable<br>
            > candidates to the RPD List, announcing where candidate
            information will be<br>
            > published.*<br>
            ><br>
            > This is ambiguous in my view point ? you state in
            bullet point 3 of the<br>
            > same section that anyone who has been part of the RPD
            list for a minimum of<br>
            > 6 months may participate, in section 3.3.1 you specify
            a one year minimum<br>
            > pause ? but beyond that ? what does acceptable mean? 
            This needs some kind<br>
            > of definition ? and I?d be quite happy to say
            explicitly that if those 2<br>
            > criteria are met, they are eligible and then let the
            community decide, but<br>
            > if it does mean more than that, it needs less
            ambiguity.<br>
            ><br>
            > In 3.3.1, we have:<br>
            > ?In addition to the candidate?s biographical
            information, nominations must<br>
            > include specific information that allows assessing
            their contribution,<br>
            > participation and experience in the PDWG. The
            candidates must also provide<br>
            > information about what they will like to achieve during
            their term,<br>
            > possible improvements to the PDWG, etc.?<br>
            ><br>
            > Because AFRINIC (board -> nomination committee) will
            check all the<br>
            > information, they will verify that the candidate has
            been there for 6<br>
            > months, can be re-elected (if is the case), provide
            their biographical<br>
            > information and some statement about what they want to
            achieve. Only if all<br>
            > that has been provided, is an acceptable candidate.
            However, keep reading ?<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > I am very hesitant to open the can of worms wherein the
            board is allowed<br>
            > to deem RPD co-chair candidates acceptable or not. Am I
            the only one that<br>
            > sees this as a serious avenue for abuse of the process
            to stack the deck on<br>
            > available candidates?<br>
            ><br>
            > My statement here in no way accuses or reflects on the
            current AfriNIC<br>
            > board. It is a question of procedural abuse that I
            would raise in any such<br>
            > construct regardless of the trust or esteem I held for
            the board in<br>
            > question. These rules should be intended to last well
            beyond the current<br>
            > board and must, therefore, consider any possible board
            makeup.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > *In 3.3.2 Bullet Point 8: A period of 10 calendar days
            will then begin<br>
            > during which the community will be able to contribute
            relevant information<br>
            > on the candidates. This information, if confirmed, may
            be published<br>
            > simultaneously for all candidates on the first working
            day following the<br>
            > end of the 10-day period. As a result of that
            information, the Board could<br>
            > disqualify any candidate.*<br>
            ><br>
            > This represents a big problem to me.  It states as a
            result of the<br>
            > information the board may disqualify any candidate. 
            This is wide open and<br>
            > allows the arbitrary disqualification of candidates. 
            If someone is to be<br>
            > disqualified, it should be on the grounds of not
            meeting a defined set of<br>
            > acceptable criteria ? that are published and known and
            codified in policy.<br>
            > Anything else could result in similar conflict of
            interest to that<br>
            > mentioned in the first point in this email.<br>
            ><br>
            > If the board->nomination committee, receives any
            information that is<br>
            > relevant and confirmed (so not a ?rumour?), it could be
            publish and any<br>
            > candidate be disqualified. Let me have an example. A
            candidate has been<br>
            > divorced 10 times. Is that relevant to the community?
            Clearly not. However,<br>
            > a candidate has been elected as the chair of an ISPs
            association and then<br>
            > has not followed his duties and this can be publicly
            confirmed (example, a<br>
            > press release from the association indicating that they
            fired its chair).<br>
            > Do you think the candidate is acceptable? The board can
            decide if<br>
            > publishing a link to the (already) public information,
            so the community<br>
            > knows when voting, or directly disqualify the
            candidate.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > This is a _REALLY_ bad idea, IMHO. The board should not
            be preemptively<br>
            > disqualifying candidates on judgment calls in lieu of
            the judgment of the<br>
            > community.<br>
            ><br>
            <br>
            Caleb:The last i checked, there are election and nomination
            committees with<br>
            just a board representative.<br>
            <br>
            The process I think allows for an open call for Expression
            of Interest for<br>
            anyone who wants to participate in that committee which is
            independent of<br>
            the board but has a board representation in that committee
            that provides<br>
            guidance and also give feedback to the board.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            ><br>
            > *In 3.3.2 Bullet point 9: If any objections are raised
            by a member of the<br>
            > community, such objections must be communicated to the
            Board within 7<br>
            > calendar days of the announcement of the results. The
            Board will then<br>
            > assess whether such objections are significant and have
            been proven. If no<br>
            > objections are raised, or if those aren?t considered,
            will proceed to<br>
            > ratify the winning candidate.*<br>
            ><br>
            > I would prefer this be done in a more open manner. 
            That is to say that if<br>
            > an objection is raised, the objection and the
            consideration thereof should<br>
            > be made public.  The community should be able to see
            the objections and why<br>
            > they were adjudicated in a particular manner.<br>
            ><br>
            > The statement doesn?t say that the board ?can?t?
            publish the information.<br>
            > But I think those objections should only be publish if
            the candidate is<br>
            > disqualified because the objections have been proven.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            Caleb : I think the lexicon use of board as against the
            Nomination &<br>
            Elections Committee can serve as an alternative.<br>
            <br>
            ><br>
            > No? The objections and the adjudication of those
            objections must be public<br>
            > regardless of the outcome. To do otherwise creates a
            significant potential<br>
            > for abuse of process. The objections should not be
            anonymous and any<br>
            > anonymous objections should not be mentioned. Whoever
            raises an objection<br>
            > should be identified right along with said objection.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > *In 3.3.2 final point: The Board is the highest
            instance of appeal in<br>
            > matters relating to the election process. The board may
            delegate some or<br>
            > all of the required functions into the Election and
            Nomination Committees.*<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > Caleb : A suggestion here for governance Committee will
            be appropriate.<br>
            <br>
            > I would prefer this be handled by an appeal committee
            appointed outside of<br>
            > the electoral process, and whose members are ineligible
            for participation<br>
            > in the main election.  Again, I do not believe that the
            board should be<br>
            > involved in the functioning of the PDP since it is they
            that have to ratify<br>
            > policy that comes through the process.  Hence, as per a
            few of my other<br>
            > points ? I would prefer clear segregation.  While I
            acknowledge and fully<br>
            > agree that a board member, in his personal capacity,
            has every right to<br>
            > participate in discussions around a policy ? since
            board members are<br>
            > naturally members of the community, I do not believe
            that they should hold<br>
            > a position to influence anything in the election of a
            candidate.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > I agree here.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > I?ve not read recently how the nomination committee is
            elected, and I<br>
            > think unless somebody raised problems on that, we
            should trust that is<br>
            > working. Otherwise, that requires a different policy or
            procedure, or the<br>
            > board addressing it. You don?t think so?<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > The nomination committee is not what is being discussed
            in 3.3.2, so I am<br>
            > not sure how this comment applies to the discussion
            above.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > I?m with you that participants on the committees aren?t
            valid candidates,<br>
            > but is not that part already of those procedures, or
            should we mention it<br>
            > here?<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > You are proposing a new procedures document that will
            supersede the<br>
            > existing one. As such, it should be mentioned here.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > Similarly, I?m with you about the segregation of
            functions, but I already<br>
            > responded to this in a previous email, so not repeating
            it here. I also<br>
            > think that it is ?easier? for the community if the
            board members do not<br>
            > participate in the discussions, **however** they have
            the full right to<br>
            > do so, as community members (as well as chairs), and
            the only requisite (as<br>
            > we do in IETF and all the other RIRs) is that if they
            express a personal<br>
            > opinion, they clearly say ?hat off this is my personal
            view on this?, and<br>
            > this personal opinion is not used in a decision for
            ratifying or not a<br>
            > policy (ratification should be based on ?has the
            process been followed? Has<br>
            > this policy a crazy impact on the membership and
            endangers this<br>
            > organization??).<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > Agreed, but the above 3.3.2 language puts the board as
            the final and<br>
            > ultimate arbiter of the appeals process and that is not
            a good idea.<br>
            ><br>
            > Owen<br>
            ><br>
            <br>
            <br>
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