<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">Hello Jordie and Souad,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">I’ve just gone through your proposal. Having
once contested for a chair as co-chair I quite recognize a need to revisit the election
process. However, I don’t agree with the crust of this proposal.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">The stated problem being addressed (below)
is accurate, nevertheless personally I find that several areas are debatable, t’s
as evident in the views on the mail trails so far.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">“The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)
discusses very briefly how the chairs are chosen. However, there is not
sufficient detail about the candidate requirements, neither a complete process.”</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">Most
observations I have made have already been brought previously highlighted and
brought forward by other members of the community, and I see that you(Jordi) have
painstakingly tried to address a few of them, but I will still want to reiterate
a few of mine.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">From section 3.3.1 </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">• Both
chairs can’t be from the same country,</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">except
in exceptional situations where there are</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">no
other acceptable candidates, in which case one</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">of the
chairs will cease in their position at the</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">following
election process (following year), either</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">because
their term has come to an end or by</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">agreement
among the two chairs, failing which</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">the
chair who has held the position the longest</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">will
automatically cease in their position</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant: I am an advocate for freedom and transparency,
thus I strongly disagree with any form of restrictions due to the country of
origin or resident of the co-chairs. Nomination and election should be a matter
of substance. Like Daniel said <b><i>“Else we may be trading competency for
representative”</i></b>. The focus should be on the candidates’ competence and motivation.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">From Section 3.3.2 </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">3.3.2
About the election of the Chairs</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
Voting will be conducted electronically, using</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">mechanisms
to ensure, as much as possible, that</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">each
voter can cast only one vote.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant: </span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">1.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Through what electronic means? </span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">2.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Solely remote voting? When can the community meet and
interact with the candidates, or do we rely solely on credentials and public
opinions? If so, then what is the need for waiting till the next PPM? Run an
election, conclude and announce results on online.</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">3.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">How can voters be identified for transparency in eligibility
and vote counting?</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">4.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">What mechanism is put in place to detect multiple accounts
run by one person? Because we might be an advent of a scenario of account squatting
for voting purposes. Where one person will register multiple dummy accounts in
anticipation of election time.</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">5.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">How can off-net collusion be detected?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
Anyone who has been part of the RPD List for at</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">least 6
months prior to the start of the election</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">process
may participate.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant: Fair</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">• Any
use of the list for electoral purposes, even</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">when by
persons clearly supportive of a</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">candidate,
may result in their disqualification, if</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">there
is evidence of collusion.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant: This is controversial. A member can
disenfranchise a candidate by running a pseudo campaign in his favour, just to
have that candidate or both disqualified in favour of another. Simply put, one
less voter for one less Candidate. Very unbalanced.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">• AFRINIC will communicate the names
of</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">Acceptable candidates to the RPD List,</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">announcing where candidate information
will be </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">published.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">The term acceptable candidate reflects in
bullet point 3 of 3.3.1 and bullet point 7 of 3.3.2. Are there separate criteria
stipulated for candidates to measure who fall within the “acceptable” threshold,
or is it the same as voter eligibility as stated in bullet point 3 of 3.3.2? If
not, what other criteria do you recommend for eligibility? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">• A
period of 10 calendar days will then begin</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">during
which the community will be able to</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">contribute
relevant information on the candidates.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">This
information, if confirmed, may be published</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">simultaneously
for all candidates on the first</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">working
day following the end of the 10-day</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">period.
As a result of that information, the Board</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">could
disqualify any candidate.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant: Quite Ambiguous. Kindly rephrase.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">•
Voting will begin on the first working Monday</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">after
the period specified above and will remain</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">open
for 7 calendar days</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant: When can the community meet and interact
with the candidates? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">• If
any objections are raised by a member of the</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">community,
such objections must be</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">communicated
to the Board within 7 calendar</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">days of
the announcement of the results. The</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Board
will then assess whether such objections</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">are
significant and have been proven. If no</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">objections
are raised, or if those aren’t</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">considered,
will proceed to ratify the winning</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">candidate.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ant: As I said before, I am an advocate of a transparent
system. I think narrowing a lot of things down to the Board is a way for
locking the larger community away from critical decisions.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Drifting off a bit to the second trail on the
subject matter. The existing election process might not be perfect, but the
influence of the local community should not be frowned at. The community is encouraged
to grow, and there is no better opportunity to do that than by driving active
participation of the host community as was witnessed in Kampala, where a lot of
IT students participated actively throughout. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Curbing the local influence of the host country/”newcomer voter’ in the election process will achieve infinitesimal gain. Since the Bi-annual
PPM is shifted across regions it solves itself organically.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">In conclusion, I think the intention of
initiating this proposal is very noble, but I would suggest a comprehensive
review. It is not ready.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Kind regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Anthony</span></p><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="line-height:150%"><b style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px"><span style="line-height:150%"><font face="garamond, serif">Best Regards,</font></span></b></p><p style="line-height:150%"><font face="garamond, serif"><b style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px"><span style="line-height:150%">UBAH ANTHONY </span></b></font><b style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:garamond,serif;line-height:19.2px"><span style="line-height:19.2px">IKECHUKWU </span></b><b style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:12.8px;line-height:150%"><span style="line-height:150%"> </span></b></p><p style="line-height:150%"><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153);font-family:garamond,serif">Goldspine Nigeria</span></p><p style="line-height:150%"><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153);font-family:garamond,serif">E-mail: </span><a href="mailto:anthony.ubah@gloworld.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:garamond,serif">anthony.ubah@goldspine.com</a><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153);font-family:garamond,serif">.ng</span><br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:23 PM <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy (Fernando Frediani)<br>
2. Re: new policy proposal: AFPUB-2019-GEN-003-DRAFT01: "Chairs<br>
Elections Process" (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele)<br>
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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 19:01:58 -0300<br>
From: Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>><br>
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In practice this situation you describe is very hard to happen, we <br>
cannot have things in place to treat the very unlikely situation and <br>
that Phase 2 is about to happen soon. Until there the vast majority or <br>
organization (really the vast!) can get addresses from AfriNic fine.<br>
I hardly doubt one can justify anything more than a /13 at once at the <br>
moment. Even in a remote hypothesis that is possible the organization <br>
can receive the /13 and work with that until transfers are allowed as <br>
per Jordi's proposal that has been changed to start with Phase 2 is <br>
triggered and that organization will be able to transfer whatever else <br>
is needed.<br>
One rule for all and much simpler.<br>
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Fernando<br>
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On 10/11/2019 18:51, Owen DeLong wrote:<br>
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>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 10:51 , Chevalier du Borg <<a href="mailto:virtual.borg@gmail.com" target="_blank">virtual.borg@gmail.com</a> <br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:virtual.borg@gmail.com" target="_blank">virtual.borg@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Le?dim. 10 nov. 2019 ??21:58, Jaco Kroon <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" target="_blank">jaco@uls.co.za</a> <br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" target="_blank">jaco@uls.co.za</a>>> a ?crit?:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Chevalier.<br>
>><br>
>> Please allow me to be blunt.? That's short sighted.<br>
>><br>
>> We cannot transfer IN from other regions unless we allow OUT.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Agree 100%,<br>
>> Then you have no problems with wait till all RIRs are equal run out <br>
>> before we etablish full in and out transfer policy no?<br>
>><br>
>> All the other RIRs require reciprocal *compatible* policies,<br>
>> which means bi-directional transfers.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> All RIRs don't all have equal amount of free space. Big difference<br>
><br>
> Depending on your definition here, 4 out of 5 have exactly equal <br>
> amount == 0.<br>
><br>
>> Not allowing this means we can't get resources in either.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> While AfriNIC have free space, operators don't need it<br>
>> When it run out, then we can allow transfer policy<br>
><br>
> This isn?t entirely true.<br>
><br>
> It?s possible that an operator needs more than they can get via <br>
> current AfriNIC policies due to ?soft landing? limitations.<br>
><br>
> In such a case, said operator might prefer to transfer a large amount <br>
> of space in even if they are paying for it on the market<br>
> rather than suffer with the small amount of space they can get from <br>
> AfriNIC due to the current restrictions.<br>
><br>
> Is there a valid reason to preclude such a transfer which, in reality, <br>
> prolongs the AfriNIC free pool to the benefit of other<br>
> organizations in Africa?<br>
><br>
> Owen<br>
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From: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] new policy proposal: AFPUB-2019-GEN-003-DRAFT01:<br>
"Chairs Elections Process"<br>
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On Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 9:03 PM Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Nov 10, 2019, at 02:15 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
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> Hi Andrew,<br>
><br>
><br>
> El 9/11/19 6:19, "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br>
> escribi?:<br>
><br>
> Coupla comments on this one:<br>
><br>
> *In 3.3: **If both Working Group Chairs are unable to attend the PPM, the<br>
> Board will on-the-spot designate a nonconflictive Chair for the session,<br>
> that will be assisted by the staff*<br>
><br>
> I don?t believe the board should designate, it should preferably be an on<br>
> the spot nomination and floor election by show of hands or other mechanism<br>
> at the meeting. There has been and should remain separation between the<br>
> board and the PDP process ? since it is the boards duty to ratify the<br>
> process followed to declare consensus on any policy passed, and hence,<br>
> should a designate declare consensus on any policy, you create a conflict<br>
> of interest situation.<br>
><br>
> ? I?m trying to avoid wasting time in the meeting. The idea is that<br>
> this is done up-front the meeting, not during the policy session. I?m happy<br>
> to change that to the nomination committee if you think that will resolve<br>
> the issue. As I mention in my previous email, I didn?t want to use the<br>
> committees references because those are called by the board, so it should<br>
> be the board, if those committees exist, the one that delegate the<br>
> functions. An alternative is to explicitly have some text in the policy<br>
> that indicates that the board is that ?top responsible, but it must<br>
> delegate that functions thru a nomination committee?, without entering in<br>
> this policy on the details of that committee. What do you think ?.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I think that the situation where no co-chair attends the meeting is rare<br>
> and exceptional enough that using some time at the meeting to nominate and<br>
> elect a chair pro tem is a perfectly valid solution and that any other<br>
> solution presented so far is problematic.<br>
><br>
> Also, assuming that we know before the meeting that the co-chairs will be<br>
> unable to attend is a perilous assumption to build into the process, IMHO.<br>
><br>
<br>
Caleb : A clear example of what happened in Kampala where we had only a<br>
Co-chair supported by staff to chair a meeting. How will a single co-chair<br>
measure rough concensus?<br>
<br>
What you can't predict is visa rejections or if there is a travel ban on<br>
the country that one of the co-chair is from.<br>
Imagine a scenario where the two co-chairs are from the same country as<br>
canvassed by some members on this list, what happens at that PDP meeting<br>
when any or both of them suffers visa rejection or there is a civil unrest<br>
in that country leading to travel ban?<br>
<br>
We should in most case see the call to even ensure that no two Co-chair<br>
emanate from the same country to reduce the risk exposure of the PDPWG and<br>
uneventful scenarios like that.<br>
<br>
><br>
><br>
> *In 3.3.1 Bullet point 6: PDWG Chairs will each serve staggered two-year<br>
> terms. PDWG Chairs may only be re-elected for one consecutive term but are<br>
> illegible to run again after a minimum one-year pause. *<br>
><br>
> Should that not say they are eligible after a minimum one-year pause? I<br>
> presume that?s a typo?<br>
><br>
> Yes, definitively, word autocorrection made a trouble here!<br>
><br>
><br>
> Personally, I am opposed to term limits. We have elections. Co-Chairs are<br>
> up for re-election no less than every two years. If people want a new<br>
> co-chair, they can easily vote for that. Why deprive voters of choice? Do<br>
> you not trust the electorate to make good choices?<br>
><br>
<br>
Caleb: I do see a valid point of of argument here and I'm sure the<br>
co-authors have taking note of your point.<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
> *In 3.3.2 Bullet point 7: AFRINIC will communicate the names of acceptable<br>
> candidates to the RPD List, announcing where candidate information will be<br>
> published.*<br>
><br>
> This is ambiguous in my view point ? you state in bullet point 3 of the<br>
> same section that anyone who has been part of the RPD list for a minimum of<br>
> 6 months may participate, in section 3.3.1 you specify a one year minimum<br>
> pause ? but beyond that ? what does acceptable mean? This needs some kind<br>
> of definition ? and I?d be quite happy to say explicitly that if those 2<br>
> criteria are met, they are eligible and then let the community decide, but<br>
> if it does mean more than that, it needs less ambiguity.<br>
><br>
> In 3.3.1, we have:<br>
> ?In addition to the candidate?s biographical information, nominations must<br>
> include specific information that allows assessing their contribution,<br>
> participation and experience in the PDWG. The candidates must also provide<br>
> information about what they will like to achieve during their term,<br>
> possible improvements to the PDWG, etc.?<br>
><br>
> Because AFRINIC (board -> nomination committee) will check all the<br>
> information, they will verify that the candidate has been there for 6<br>
> months, can be re-elected (if is the case), provide their biographical<br>
> information and some statement about what they want to achieve. Only if all<br>
> that has been provided, is an acceptable candidate. However, keep reading ?<br>
><br>
><br>
> I am very hesitant to open the can of worms wherein the board is allowed<br>
> to deem RPD co-chair candidates acceptable or not. Am I the only one that<br>
> sees this as a serious avenue for abuse of the process to stack the deck on<br>
> available candidates?<br>
><br>
> My statement here in no way accuses or reflects on the current AfriNIC<br>
> board. It is a question of procedural abuse that I would raise in any such<br>
> construct regardless of the trust or esteem I held for the board in<br>
> question. These rules should be intended to last well beyond the current<br>
> board and must, therefore, consider any possible board makeup.<br>
><br>
><br>
> *In 3.3.2 Bullet Point 8: A period of 10 calendar days will then begin<br>
> during which the community will be able to contribute relevant information<br>
> on the candidates. This information, if confirmed, may be published<br>
> simultaneously for all candidates on the first working day following the<br>
> end of the 10-day period. As a result of that information, the Board could<br>
> disqualify any candidate.*<br>
><br>
> This represents a big problem to me. It states as a result of the<br>
> information the board may disqualify any candidate. This is wide open and<br>
> allows the arbitrary disqualification of candidates. If someone is to be<br>
> disqualified, it should be on the grounds of not meeting a defined set of<br>
> acceptable criteria ? that are published and known and codified in policy.<br>
> Anything else could result in similar conflict of interest to that<br>
> mentioned in the first point in this email.<br>
><br>
> If the board->nomination committee, receives any information that is<br>
> relevant and confirmed (so not a ?rumour?), it could be publish and any<br>
> candidate be disqualified. Let me have an example. A candidate has been<br>
> divorced 10 times. Is that relevant to the community? Clearly not. However,<br>
> a candidate has been elected as the chair of an ISPs association and then<br>
> has not followed his duties and this can be publicly confirmed (example, a<br>
> press release from the association indicating that they fired its chair).<br>
> Do you think the candidate is acceptable? The board can decide if<br>
> publishing a link to the (already) public information, so the community<br>
> knows when voting, or directly disqualify the candidate.<br>
><br>
><br>
> This is a _REALLY_ bad idea, IMHO. The board should not be preemptively<br>
> disqualifying candidates on judgment calls in lieu of the judgment of the<br>
> community.<br>
><br>
<br>
Caleb:The last i checked, there are election and nomination committees with<br>
just a board representative.<br>
<br>
The process I think allows for an open call for Expression of Interest for<br>
anyone who wants to participate in that committee which is independent of<br>
the board but has a board representation in that committee that provides<br>
guidance and also give feedback to the board.<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
> *In 3.3.2 Bullet point 9: If any objections are raised by a member of the<br>
> community, such objections must be communicated to the Board within 7<br>
> calendar days of the announcement of the results. The Board will then<br>
> assess whether such objections are significant and have been proven. If no<br>
> objections are raised, or if those aren?t considered, will proceed to<br>
> ratify the winning candidate.*<br>
><br>
> I would prefer this be done in a more open manner. That is to say that if<br>
> an objection is raised, the objection and the consideration thereof should<br>
> be made public. The community should be able to see the objections and why<br>
> they were adjudicated in a particular manner.<br>
><br>
> The statement doesn?t say that the board ?can?t? publish the information.<br>
> But I think those objections should only be publish if the candidate is<br>
> disqualified because the objections have been proven.<br>
><br>
><br>
Caleb : I think the lexicon use of board as against the Nomination &<br>
Elections Committee can serve as an alternative.<br>
<br>
><br>
> No? The objections and the adjudication of those objections must be public<br>
> regardless of the outcome. To do otherwise creates a significant potential<br>
> for abuse of process. The objections should not be anonymous and any<br>
> anonymous objections should not be mentioned. Whoever raises an objection<br>
> should be identified right along with said objection.<br>
><br>
><br>
> *In 3.3.2 final point: The Board is the highest instance of appeal in<br>
> matters relating to the election process. The board may delegate some or<br>
> all of the required functions into the Election and Nomination Committees.*<br>
><br>
><br>
> Caleb : A suggestion here for governance Committee will be appropriate.<br>
<br>
> I would prefer this be handled by an appeal committee appointed outside of<br>
> the electoral process, and whose members are ineligible for participation<br>
> in the main election. Again, I do not believe that the board should be<br>
> involved in the functioning of the PDP since it is they that have to ratify<br>
> policy that comes through the process. Hence, as per a few of my other<br>
> points ? I would prefer clear segregation. While I acknowledge and fully<br>
> agree that a board member, in his personal capacity, has every right to<br>
> participate in discussions around a policy ? since board members are<br>
> naturally members of the community, I do not believe that they should hold<br>
> a position to influence anything in the election of a candidate.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I agree here.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I?ve not read recently how the nomination committee is elected, and I<br>
> think unless somebody raised problems on that, we should trust that is<br>
> working. Otherwise, that requires a different policy or procedure, or the<br>
> board addressing it. You don?t think so?<br>
><br>
><br>
> The nomination committee is not what is being discussed in 3.3.2, so I am<br>
> not sure how this comment applies to the discussion above.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I?m with you that participants on the committees aren?t valid candidates,<br>
> but is not that part already of those procedures, or should we mention it<br>
> here?<br>
><br>
><br>
> You are proposing a new procedures document that will supersede the<br>
> existing one. As such, it should be mentioned here.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Similarly, I?m with you about the segregation of functions, but I already<br>
> responded to this in a previous email, so not repeating it here. I also<br>
> think that it is ?easier? for the community if the board members do not<br>
> participate in the discussions, **however** they have the full right to<br>
> do so, as community members (as well as chairs), and the only requisite (as<br>
> we do in IETF and all the other RIRs) is that if they express a personal<br>
> opinion, they clearly say ?hat off this is my personal view on this?, and<br>
> this personal opinion is not used in a decision for ratifying or not a<br>
> policy (ratification should be based on ?has the process been followed? Has<br>
> this policy a crazy impact on the membership and endangers this<br>
> organization??).<br>
><br>
><br>
> Agreed, but the above 3.3.2 language puts the board as the final and<br>
> ultimate arbiter of the appeals process and that is not a good idea.<br>
><br>
> Owen<br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
Caleb Ogundele<br>
<br>
><br>
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