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<p>In practice this situation you describe is very hard to happen,
we cannot have things in place to treat the very unlikely
situation and that Phase 2 is about to happen soon. Until there
the vast majority or organization (really the vast!) can get
addresses from AfriNic fine. <br>
I hardly doubt one can justify anything more than a /13 at once at
the moment. Even in a remote hypothesis that is possible the
organization can receive the /13 and work with that until
transfers are allowed as per Jordi's proposal that has been
changed to start with Phase 2 is triggered and that organization
will be able to transfer whatever else is needed. <br>
One rule for all and much simpler.<br>
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<p>Fernando<br>
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<p class="">Hi Chevalier.</p>
<p class="">Please allow me to be blunt. That's short
sighted.</p>
<p class="">We cannot transfer IN from other regions
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<div class="">Agree 100%, </div>
<div class="">Then you have no problems with wait till all
RIRs are equal run out before we etablish full in and
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<p class="">All the other RIRs require reciprocal
*compatible* policies, which means bi-directional
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<div class="">All RIRs don't all have equal amount of free
space. Big difference</div>
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Depending on your definition here, 4 out of 5 have exactly equal
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<p class="">Not allowing this means we can't get
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<div class="">While AfriNIC have free space, operators
don't need it</div>
<div class="">When it run out, then we can allow transfer
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This isn’t entirely true.</div>
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<div>It’s possible that an operator needs more than they can get
via current AfriNIC policies due to “soft landing” limitations.</div>
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<div>In such a case, said operator might prefer to transfer a
large amount of space in even if they are paying for it on the
market</div>
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get from AfriNIC due to the current restrictions.</div>
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<div>Is there a valid reason to preclude such a transfer which, in
reality, prolongs the AfriNIC free pool to the benefit of other</div>
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