<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 10, 2019, at 10:51 , Chevalier du Borg <<a href="mailto:virtual.borg@gmail.com" class="">virtual.borg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le dim. 10 nov. 2019 à 21:58, Jaco Kroon <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" class="">jaco@uls.co.za</a>> a écrit :<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><p class="">Hi Chevalier.</p><p class="">Please allow me to be blunt. That's short sighted.</p><p class="">We cannot transfer IN from other regions unless we allow OUT.</p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Agree 100%, </div><div class="">Then you have no problems with wait till all RIRs are equal run out before we etablish full in and out transfer policy no?</div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><p class="">All the other RIRs require reciprocal *compatible* policies, which means bi-directional transfers.</p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All RIRs don't all have equal amount of free space. Big difference</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Depending on your definition here, 4 out of 5 have exactly equal amount == 0.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><p class="">Not allowing this means we can't get resources in either.</p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">While AfriNIC have free space, operators don't need it</div><div class="">When it run out, then we can allow transfer policy</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>This isn’t entirely true.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>It’s possible that an operator needs more than they can get via current AfriNIC policies due to “soft landing” limitations.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>In such a case, said operator might prefer to transfer a large amount of space in even if they are paying for it on the market</div><div>rather than suffer with the small amount of space they can get from AfriNIC due to the current restrictions.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Is there a valid reason to preclude such a transfer which, in reality, prolongs the AfriNIC free pool to the benefit of other</div><div>organizations in Africa?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""></body></html>