<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:03 , Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" class="">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class=""><p class="">Owen, I don't think anyone is talking about the newcomers to
participate in any PDP meeting and everybody welcomes it. The
point, as you well described in part of the email is to be able to
vote to on co-chair elections.<br class="">
</p><p class="">It is very reasonable that only people that are committed and
already involved into the process for a minimal time and know how
things work should be able to decide. With that nobody is
excluding new people to come and participate and in a next
election, if they remain and contribute to the community to be
able to choose as well.</p></div></div></blockquote>I’m not entirely convinced of this. We have a cochair from the last election who was one such newcomer. Frankly, so far, he seems to be doing an excellent job in my opinion.</div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">
</p><p class="">6 months is not a big thing for someone that is willing to commit
to something and solves a huge problem which is the very well
known of bringing non involved people just to count as a 'ad-hoc'
vote and manipulate the process to something which certainly will
not represent the will of the majority of those who really build
the things. To be able to decide in group someone must be a
stakeholder of the process and those who come one-off are not.<br class=""></p></div></div></blockquote><div>But I’m also not convinced that 6 months actually gains us anything. Some of the worst decisions in AfriNIC history have come from co-chairs that were well steeped in AfriNIC policy development.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Unless and until you can show me that there has been some detrimental effect from newcomers being allowed to vote, I’m hesitant to accept the idea of disenfranchising them.</div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">
</p><p class="">Otherwise keeping the things as they are is a perfectly way to
make the people who really are committed and work to build good
policy to go away because the risk of the process to be
manipulated will always be high.</p></div></div></blockquote>I’m not convinced disenfranchising newcomers solves that problem.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I do not take the idea of disenfranchising community members lightly at all. If it is necessary, there needs to be strong evidence of a problem and even stronger evidence that disenfranchisement somehow solves the problem.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>So far, we have neither, while we do have at least one valid counter-example.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I would accept a less intrusive requirement such as requiring that they be subscribed to the RPD list for at least 3 months prior to the meeting and have made at least one post to RPD.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I would argue that lots of people who have been involved for quite some time don’t truly understand how things work, so your belief that attending a second meeting is a miracle cure for such ignorance doesn’t hold much water with me.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Anyone who uses IP number resources _IS_ a stakeholder in the process, whether they fully understand that fact or not. I think you will be hard pressed to find anyone who participated in the last co-chair election who does not fit that description.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I have not yet had time to review the full proposal in detail, but I will have many more comments on additional flaws when I do.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I am in opposition to the proposal as written while I do support the idea of producing better and more complete PDWG Co-Chair election procedures and documentation.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">Fernando<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/11/2019 16:32, Owen DeLong wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">On Nov 9, 2019, at 01:07 , Ahile shagba francis
<<a href="mailto:ahilefranc@gmail.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ahilefranc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">The last elections in Kampala
witnessed many weird practices. It was glaring that the
process lacks so much to term it credible.
<div dir="auto" class=""> Some are forced to agree with
the accusations of the person who sent some harsh words
regards the manner in which students and locals where
bought solely for the purpose of elections by some big
wings who play the modern day slavery role.</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
I take issue with this characterization.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Bringing students and local IT professionals to the AfriNIC
meeting is, IMHO, a laudable and useful way to expand our
community</div>
<div class="">and improve participation. I don’t know of anyone who was
brought solely for the purpose of elections. All of the
fellowships I am</div>
<div class="">aware of provided for attendance at the full meeting.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">The only elections which can be influenced by such attendees
who are not representing bona fide AfriNIC members are the PDP</div>
<div class="">co-chair and the NRO NC/ASO AC representatives. (The NRO NC
also stands as the ASO AC).</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Here we are discussing the election of co-chairs, so the role
of fellows in that election is a valid topic of discussion.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I find it interesting that the call here is about the
election in Kampala while nobody mentions what happened in
Dakar.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">In Dakar, there were literally busloads of local people, many
of whom had no relationship to IT.</div>
<div class="">They showed up for lunch and the Co-Chair election and then
departed never to be seen or heard from in the community again.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">In Kampala, there were a large number of local IT students
and members of the IT profession who showed up for multiple days</div>
<div class="">of the meeting in part because they were sponsored through
fellowships.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I can certainly understand criticism of what happened in
Dakar, but I must ask about the criticism of Kampala…</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Is there some reason these members of the IT community should
be marginalized simply because it is their first meeting?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Are they in some way less qualified than other members
attending their first meeting?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">At least in the case of the fellows which I met and of which
I am aware, they each received briefing materials about AfriNIC
and</div>
<div class="">the policy proposals under discussion. Said briefing
materials have been previously reviewed on this list and were as
neutral</div>
<div class="">and factual as they could be, modulo some minor mistakes
which were admitted and which did not significantly prejudice
any</div>
<div class="">policy (a couple of minor misquotes IIRC).</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">One of those fellows is now a PDP co-chair.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Do we feel that the current co-chairs are doing a bad job? Do
we feel that they have misrepresented the community in some way?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">Newcomwers ought to have some
knowledge about what AFRINIC in its entirety entails.
So you can make decisions bore from conscience and
sincere progress. </div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
How does a newcomer gain that knowledge without attending a
meeting and observing the process first hand?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Are you arguing that the co-chairs elected in Kampala are
unqualified or a poor choice for the community? Are you arguing
that the election had a bad outcome?</div>
<div class="">If so, please offer some evidence to support this position.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">Many who are pushing for
certain policies have failed to sit back and search
themselves if they really are for the good of the RIR
of they are just out chasing clout. </div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
Blanket accusations of malfeasance such as this are hollow and
useless. If you have examples of such malfeasance, you don’t
have to name names, but at least</div>
<div class="">provide specific citations. Provide actual content or
quotations or references to points on the video record of the
meeting where such malfeasance is demonstrated.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">If such an accusation is to be leveled, then it should be
leveled such that the accused have some ability to proffer a
defense. In a case where it is impossible to know</div>
<div class="">not only who, but what, exactly, is being accused, there is
no ability to offer any defense and the accusation can be
neither proven nor disproven. It is hollow and</div>
<div class="">should be regarded as entirely fictitious in nature.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">Whatever we try to fix here
should be from a sincere motive of taking the RIR to
greater heights. </div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
In this, at least, we can certainly agree. Let us focus on
actual problems to be solved and not on vague and hollow
accusations which cannot be meaningfully</div>
<div class="">addressed.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Owen</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Shalom</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto" class="">Ahile Shagba Francis. <br class="">
Developer | Branding |Graphics <br class="">
Frankie-Code Solutions.</div>
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From: Daniel Yakmut <<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>><br class="">
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>><br class="">
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Subject: Re: [rpd] new policy proposal:
AFPUB-2019-GEN-003-DRAFT01:<br class="">
"Chairs Elections Process"<br class="">
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A quick question is "are Co-Chair tied to Country?" I
thought part of this<br class="">
community is some form of universality, meaning as long
as the person(s)<br class="">
understand and are doing the job well, country specific
should not matter.<br class="">
Else we may be trading competency for representative.<br class="">
<br class="">
Therefore, I will disagree with inserting that co-chairs
cannot come from<br class="">
the same country. Rather can we have other implicit ways
that could<br class="">
possibly ensure that co-chairs from the same country are
not chairing at<br class="">
the same time.<br class="">
<br class="">
Simply,<br class="">
Daniel<br class="">
<br class="">
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 7:35 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class="">
wrote:<br class="">
<br class="">
> Hi Fernando,<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> I see your point, which has been also expressed by
Pascal, and after<br class="">
> thinking again I believe I could agree with an
alternative solution and<br class="">
> simplification of that specific paragraph.<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> Note that I?m responding by myself, so my co-author
should agree if both<br class="">
> of you accept this alternative, as well as the rest
of the community, so<br class="">
> take it as tentative wording:<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> ?Both chairs can?t be from the same country, except
in exceptional<br class="">
> situations where there are no other acceptable
candidates.?<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> Instead of the actual:<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> ?Both chairs can?t be from the same country, except
in exceptional<br class="">
> situations where there are no other acceptable
candidates, in which case<br class="">
> one of the chairs will cease in their position at
the following election<br class="">
> process (following year), either because their term
has come to an end or<br class="">
> by agreement among the two chairs, failing which
the chair who has held the<br class="">
> position the longest will automatically cease in
their position.?<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> So, will you agree on this? others?<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> Regards,<br class="">
><br class="">
> Jordi<br class="">
><br class="">
> @jordipalet<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> El 8/11/19 16:49, "Fernando Frediani" <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>
escribi?:<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> Hello<br class="">
><br class="">
> I have to agree that I am also not comfortable the
way text is 3.3.1 with<br class="">
> regards chair of the same country. While I agree
they should not come form<br class="">
> the same country as much as possible I recognized
there are exceptions<br class="">
> where they have to be and no one should be forced
out if they became a<br class="">
> chair already.<br class="">
><br class="">
> There are two situations where I believe 2 chairs
from the same country<br class="">
> may co-exist:<br class="">
> 1) When there are no other acceptable candidates
from other countries (eg:<br class="">
> 1 single candidate form the same country as the
current chair or all<br class="">
> candidates from the same country of the chair)<br class="">
> 2) When there is a vacant position that AfricNic
Board has to fulfill<br class="">
> temporarily.<br class="">
><br class="">
> With regards the traveling expenses mentioned I
don't think they should be<br class="">
> in the PDP. While I believe the RIR should always
cover that given the<br class="">
> importance of the role to the RIR community it is
discretionary and up to<br class="">
> them to decide that. Furthermore I don't think
having this in the PDP can<br class="">
> oblige the RIR to do anyway as it's a
administrative decision.<br class="">
><br class="">
> I agree with section 3.3.2 in regards the minimum
time to be able to<br class="">
> participate in the election process. It brings a
lot of value into the<br class="">
> process and avoid big issues of non-related people
influencing the process.<br class="">
> This part for me is one of the most important of
the proposal.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Fernando<br class="">
><br class="">
> On 08/11/2019 04:33, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD
wrote:<br class="">
><br class="">
> Hi Pascal,<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> Thanks for your inputs, let me answer below,
in-line.<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> Regards,<br class="">
><br class="">
> Jordi<br class="">
><br class="">
> @jordipalet<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> El 8/11/19 4:32, "Paschal Ochang" <<a href="mailto:pascosoft@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pascosoft@gmail.com</a>>
escribi?:<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> Hello this is a great proposal but I have some
concerns about some of the<br class="">
> newly adopted procedures.<br class="">
> In section 3.3.1 I don't think it will be right for
a chair who has held<br class="">
> the position longest to vacate the position in a
scenario where the<br class="">
> cochairs originate from the same country in extreme
scenarios. While we aim<br class="">
> to select algorithms to minimize the possibility of
a vacant seat at any<br class="">
> point in time we should also try not to break the
wheel of experience here.<br class="">
> A longer serving cochair will be more conversant
with the affairs of the<br class="">
> PDWG in most cases so I think vacating his or her
seat won't be ideal.<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> ? While I could agree here in your view, I think
that there must be a<br class="">
> balance in giving opportunity to new people. The
text already gives the<br class="">
> opportunity to the chairs to take a decision on
that. Note also, that if<br class="">
> the chair that has been longer time in the position
hasn?t exceeded the two<br class="">
> consecutive terms, he still can submit his
candidacy for that election, so<br class="">
> it is giving the voice to the community about that.
On the other hand, we<br class="">
> may have a longer time in the position chair that
is not performing well<br class="">
> (even if it has more experience) so the community
has a way to not vote him<br class="">
> again. It is a difficult balance. I will like to
hear from you and others<br class="">
> specific suggestions about this point.<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> Secondly while we aim to sanitize the motives for
people contesting for<br class="">
> cochair I don't think a little stipend for
co-chairs will do any damage to<br class="">
> the election process for me I think a per sitting
allowance or stipend<br class="">
> should be adopted if not already so.<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> ? AFRINIC (I believe) support the chairs in their
traveling expenses to<br class="">
> the meeting and from time to time to other RIR
meetings. Is not that<br class="">
> sufficient? Otherwise, what you will suggest?
Should we have that (even for<br class="">
> traveling expenses) in the PDP?<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> section 3.3.2 will disenfranchise voters. It's
possible a deprived voter<br class="">
> might not be active in the rpd but has been abreast
with the happenings of<br class="">
> the community. Therefore are we going to say we
cannot allow that voter to<br class="">
> cast his or her vote?. A deprived voter might be
attending a PPM for the<br class="">
> first time and will feel disenfranchised because I
believe the presentation<br class="">
> of the candidates is also an incentive to motivate
or give voters an idea<br class="">
> of their portfolio which I think is enough to
orientate a newbie attendee<br class="">
> if I may use that phrase .<br class="">
><br class="">
> Without elaborating or handling some of this
concerns I think this<br class="">
> proposal cannot be accepted as it is.<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> ? Note that I?m asking only for having been in the
RPD list for 6 months.<br class="">
> I?m not asking for demonstrating ?activity?. I my
opinion this will fulfil<br class="">
> the case you?re indicating in your first case.<br class="">
><br class="">
> ? Regarding a newcomer participating as voter, I?ve
seen in many RIR<br class="">
> meetings, including AFRINIC, a bunch (even
hundreds) of local students,<br class="">
> participating for the first time as guest. 99% of
those participants will<br class="">
> never participate again in AFRINIC, RPD, etc.
Hundreds of them can vote for<br class="">
> a specific candidate, without knowing at all
nothing about the candidate or<br class="">
> the PDP, for example, just because the candidate is
local. Of course, in<br class="">
> some cases that candidate can be a very valid one,
however nothing ensures<br class="">
> it and further this is a distortion of the process
and very discriminatory<br class="">
> towards the other candidates. For example, the
other candidates can say<br class="">
> ?I?ve organized a remote hub so the people can
participate in a remote<br class="">
> meeting room? (and get there hundreds of people
that possibly will support<br class="">
> that candidacy). I think those newcomers can
perfectly understand, if they<br class="">
> are interested in a continued AFRINIC
participation, shy those rules are<br class="">
> done and this specific point will not, for that,
feel uncomfortable or<br class="">
> decide not to continue participating because that,
in the other way around<br class="">
> ?next time I will be voting?. Is like when you need
to have 18 years to<br class="">
> vote. Reason for that is that you have some degree
of ?adult thinking, life<br class="">
> experience, public policy understanding, etc.?;
here we are saying your<br class="">
> experience to be able to participate is having been
there for a few months.<br class="">
><br class="">
> ? Note that a participant in the meeting if really
interested in AFRINIC,<br class="">
> has been able to be in the RPD list much more time
ahead the meeting, so<br class="">
> nothing forbids him to actually participate.<br class="">
><br class="">
> ? Last but not least, the way that electronic
voting is organized is<br class="">
> based on using the RPD list as the electoral
census. NOBODY will vote<br class="">
> ?on-site?, the election is done BEFORE the meeting.<br class="">
><br class="">
> ? As said, happy to heard inputs on those specific
points (and in general<br class="">
> in all the proposal, of course!):<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> On Wednesday, November 6, 2019, Fernando Frediani
<<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
> wrote:<br class="">
><br class="">
> Hello.<br class="">
><br class="">
> The text of the proposal is well written and I
believe brings value to the<br class="">
> election process with control mechanisms to ensure
neutrality and balance<br class="">
> of the chosen persons.<br class="">
> One important point I highlight is that staff when
implementing this make<br class="">
> sure a trustable electronic system is used to
ensure one vote by<br class="">
> participant and to avoid fraud. I guess something
about that will be<br class="">
> contained in the impact analysis that will come.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Fernando<br class="">
><br class="">
> On 05/11/2019 11:04, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD
wrote:<br class="">
><br class="">
> Hi all,<br class="">
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