{Cc: Ernest}<div><br><div>Hi all,<div><br></div><div>...please see below (inline).<br><br>Le lundi 21 octobre 2019, Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hello Sylvain.</p>
<p>I consider that the main motivation to allow transfers for IPv4
is the scarcity. In normal </p><p>conditions, including a M&A the
company would have to receive resources in the new </p><p>RIR and do
renumbering. </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Dear Fernando,</div><div>I understand your arguments, but we must not force an entity, resulting from a Merger|Acquisition, </div><div>to act the way you described. It seems to me like going a bit out of the scope of the PD-WG. The</div><div>Merger|Acquisition entity should be free to use at least the Internet resources they have legally </div><div>inherited. Or am i missing something ?</div><div><br></div><div>...or it's not really the goal: treat the Merger|Acquisition case into this single Draft Policy </div><div>Proposal (DPP) ?</div><div><br></div><div>Any author to clarify ? :-/</div><div><br></div><div>An other thing : after reading the Staff comment as IAr (Impact Analysis report) for this DPP and </div><div>considering an explanation given by Ernest, i understand that there is problem to solve within </div><div>the Merger|Acquisition particular case before considering them as potential beneficiary of this </div><div>DPP.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p> Some people say that renumbering has costs, but that
is part of the business and should </p><p>be accounted as part of the
whole transaction. </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>...IMHO, the Merger|Acquisition entity should be free to use your good advice Fernando ;-)</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>Allowing IPv6 transfers has the potential to mess up with the way
it was distributed and is </p><p>allocated among all RIRs </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>...including RIPE NCC, yes and in that particular RIR, IPv6 transfers are allowed ; including for </div><div>Inter-RIR Transfers. And not only for the good of Merger|Acquisition entities (In|Out of region).</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>(remember there
are no Legacy IPv6) and also would have costs </p><p>for RIRs to adapt
they systems in order to allow that, a cost that would be of all
members </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for this interesting information, hopefully we could have a new IAr or a at least a Staff </div><div>response about this affirmation.</div><div><br></div><div>...so, Ernest, can you consider contacting RIPE NCC Staff to provide us with a kick response ?</div><div>Thanks for your understanding.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>in order to accomplish the need of just a few. </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Fernando, if we want a business stability into this region, preferably we should understand </div><div>Merger|Acquisition advantages more than something which could only harm the greatest part of </div><div>resource members of this RIR. To be clearer, i see Merger|Acquisition scenarios inside AFRINIC </div><div>region. That is why, i'm insisting for the authors to include IPv6 in their $resource pool|definition.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, the *few* you have mentioned below are not known right now :'-(</div><div>...then, any AFRINIC given resource member could become part of a Merger|Acquisition scenario</div><div>at any time...</div><div><br></div><div>...let me go further, in my analysis i also see, in fact, a potential legal risk in regard to the RSA </div><div>which seems to clearly grant Merger|Acquisitions entities with a kind of *business continuity right* </div><div>or guarantee. If i have read it correctly, though :-/ </div><div> </div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Shalom,</div><div>--sb.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
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<div>On 21/10/2019 14:24, Sylvain Baya
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