<div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: New Policy Proposal Received - "IPv4 Inter-RIR Legacy<br> Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)<br> AFPUB-2019-v4-002-DRAFT01" (Fernando Frediani) <div><br></div><div>Thank you, Mr. Fernando, for the great digest</div><div>I do agree with you. I also think allowing inter-RIR transfers really does open wide a door to fraud and misuse and any other unexpected circumstances. It's just so risky</div><div> </div><div>Sincerely,<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Amutuhaire Robert</div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><br></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 3:00 PM <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: New Policy Proposal Received - "IPv4 Inter-RIR Legacy<br>
Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)<br>
AFPUB-2019-v4-002-DRAFT01" (Fernando Frediani)<br>
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:43:36 -0300<br>
From: Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal Received - "IPv4 Inter-RIR<br>
Legacy Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)<br>
AFPUB-2019-v4-002-DRAFT01"<br>
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Hello<br>
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I want to position myself against this proposal for the many reasons below.<br>
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First I believe this does not bring any benefits to Africa region <br>
allowing IP space to go out of the region and the same way Africa is not <br>
in need yet to receive IP space from other regions as AfriNIC still has <br>
availability for assignment to its members.<br>
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Allowing inter-RIR transfers opens a wide door for fraud by <br>
organizations from other continents establishing a "virtual" or "fake" <br>
offices in Africa, request some IP space and send them out of the region <br>
afterwards.<br>
As AfriNIC is the only RIR who still has IP space available for its <br>
members they should be protected and made sure they are assigned only <br>
for real usage in the continent.<br>
It is pretty reasonable to think that the major interest will be in <br>
companies outside Africa to come to the region, get IP space and send it <br>
out than the contrary as AfriNIC members can get IP space directly from <br>
the RIR. Why would members need it coming from other regions then ?<br>
Also the 12 months period to request receive more IP space from AfriNIC <br>
is quiet short in my view and make it worth in order to increase fraud <br>
for those who wish to send these addresses out of the region.<br>
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Even if it's expected AfriNIC's IP space to run out anytime soon I still <br>
don't believe it is a reason to allow inter-RIR transfers. In LACNIC <br>
region for example it exhausted IPv4 space for existing members in 2017 <br>
and only very recently after 2 years the inter-RIR transfer has reached <br>
consensus there, so I think this type of proposal should be re-evaluated <br>
later on in the future when the scenario changes and when there are real <br>
benefits for Africa region.<br>
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The fact that transfers happen "under the table" I don't consider this <br>
as a strong argument in favor of this change. Transfers under the table <br>
are wrong and against the current policies therefore those who may be <br>
doing it are the wrong ones, not the RIR for not allowing such <br>
transfers. Any organization who received IP space from AfriNIC must bind <br>
to the current policies and that includes not to do transfers that are <br>
not allowed. If they insist on that, sanctions must be applied against <br>
them, therefore there are mechanisms to properly fix this issue, if it <br>
exists.<br>
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The deployment of IPv6 is not impacted for AfricNIC members for the <br>
current scenario as IPv4 is still available to be requested by <br>
organizations for usage by transition mechanisms for example. Even when <br>
that is not possible anymore there are still alternatives as for <br>
example: 1) re-use of already hold IP space, 2) establishment of a <br>
dedicated pool for specific usage with IPv6 transition mechanisms or 3) <br>
prioritization of new entrants, the last two for example based on the <br>
/12 reserved for future use as stated by section 5.4.7.1 of the <br>
AfriNIC's Exhaustion Policy<br>
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I also second a comment made by another person in this discussion here: <br>
"Allowing Inter-RIR transfers open room for resources meant to be used <br>
in our region being traded fast due to economic reasons beyond the real <br>
purpose they were meant for which is to help build the African Internet".<br>
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Therefore I don't think is good or necessary for Africa region to allow <br>
inter-RIR transfers and put the RIR under the risk of its address space <br>
to go out of the region unnecessarily and in an unneeded scenario.<br>
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Best regards<br>
Fernando<br>
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