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<p>Hehehe I see you, Timothy. <br>
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<p>At the risk of being burnt at the stakes, I will share a personal
experience. In the buildup to a public policy meeting, I was doing
a more in-depth study of a policy proposal that was on the docket
and I realized that the opening sections of the proposal did not
properly answer the questions asked in the proposal template.
Somehow, we the co-chairs had paid more attention to ensuring
publication and announcement in line with PDP timelines than to
the actual contents of the proposal. By the time I was making the
observation, the proposal was already published and conversations
ongoing regarding the contents; at that point, it was too late to
bring it up without appearing like I was trying to sabotage the
proposal. <br>
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<p>Things that we can improve on:</p>
<p>1. Summary of the problem being addressed by this policy
proposal. - This block of text should be clearly defined as a
problem. If party A sees it as a problem and party B does not see
it as a problem, we are likely to have a problem (depending on how
strongly party B feels about the proposed solution as opposed to
the status quo).<br>
<br>
2. Summary of how this proposal addresses the problem. - This
block of text should summarize the approach proposed as solution
to the perceived problem. There's a lot competing for people's
time and attention. By viewing this without having through comb
through pages of text, PDWG participants immediately know
where/how to direct their energy.<br>
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<p>If proposal authors, co-chairs and staff can strictly ensure that
proposals properly answer these questions before going into
details of proposed policy, we can reduce the level of ambiguity
and hopefully improve the quality of our discussions. <br>
</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Dewole (who now accepts responsibility for not paying enough
attention to items 1 and 2 of the policy proposal template)<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/8/2019 8:55 AM, Timothy Ola
Akinfenwa wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">True Dewole 👌🏾
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<div dir="auto">But my concern is how reasonable is
reasonable? Especially, giving the way policy discussions
have fared on this list in the past.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Me will support whatever will make us adhere
strictly to the deadlines. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Just thinking aloud! <br>
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<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent from
my OnePlus mobile device! </>$aa;</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 8 Aug 2019, 7:03 AM
Dewole Ajao, <<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng"
moz-do-not-send="true">dewole@forum.org.ng</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Your active contribution to the RPD is appreciated,
Sylvain. While not holding brief for the current co-chairs
&& while agreeing that we could do better in terms
of timely execution, I think that for any number of
reasons, an earlier announced date could have been missed
- especially if nobody made comments on the subject matter
and/or we all forgot/neglected to check on the progress on
the list. <br>
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<p>As to your concern about someone getting the opportunity
to make a late comment because he forgot the deadline and
the co-chairs did not close on the set date, I think you
should look at it like this:<br>
If the late comment is reasonable (apart from its late
timing) and helps us make better policy, this group and
its chairs will have to take it into consideration
regardless of the missed timelines. I believe
consideration of reasonable inputs should supersede strict
timelines.<br>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Dewole.<br>
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<div class="m_-2424459644533509079moz-cite-prefix">On
8/7/2019 8:07 PM, Sylvain BAYA wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi all, </p>
<div>
<div>Thanks for your notification Abdulkarim.</div>
<div>Please other comments below (inline)...</div>
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<div class="m_-2424459644533509079moz-cite-prefix">Le
8/7/2019 à 10:20 AM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE a écrit :<br>
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<div>You would recall that on 18th July 2019, we
announced that last call for the following
policy proposals would end on 25 July 2019. <br>
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<div>...for sure, but today we are the 07th of august 2019
:-)</div>
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<div>- SL Update</div>
<div>- IPv6 PI Clarification</div>
<div><br>
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<div>This is to formally declare that the last
call period for the above proposals indeed came
to a close on 25 July 2019, and since there were
no issues arising during that period, the
consensus decision from AFRINIC30 is still
maintained.</div>
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<div>There is no clear rule (<i>CPM sections 3.4.3 and
3.4.4 </i>) about the exact moment to notify <br>
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<div>the PDWG that the last call period is ended ; but i
think it's important that the Chairs <br>
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<div>make an extra (if needed) effort to send this
notification the day following the last <br>
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<div>call date. Because, if someone forget the deadline,
he can comment on a policy which <br>
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<div>is no longer open to comments (<i>that is Morgan's
Law</i>) :-)</div>
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<div>Co-Chairs will now send a report to the Board
recommending ratification of the two above
proposals in line with CPM 3.0.</div>
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<div>Dear Chairs, IMHO when a policy reaches consensus i
think that it means that the Policy </div>
<div>Community (or PDWG) have aggreed to have it
implemented ASAP. Again, even if it's, right <br>
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<div>now, just an operational (<i>means only depends on
Chairs decision</i>) question, i think you <br>
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<div>Chairs should consider this task as a priority.
Because if you send your report earlier, <br>
</div>
<div>the policy will be implemented earlier i guess :-) <br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div>...i count two weeks since 2019.07.25, then if your
mail was informing us that you have <br>
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<div>already sent the report to the BoD, i'ld have seen no
problem ; but it took you two weeks <br>
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<div>to tell us (<i>without </i><i>any timing</i>) that
you will send a report to the BoD. <br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Excuse me but, i'm still new on these policy things,
so maybe i'm missing something ?<br>
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<div>Thank You <br>
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<div>Thanks.</div>
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<div>All my encouragements to your efforts !</div>
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<div>Shalom,</div>
<div>--sb.</div>
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