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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Sylvain,</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 15/7/19 5:37, "Sylvain BAYA" <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hi all, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hope you are in good health.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>Please see below (inline)...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Le 7/13/2019 à 12:11 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>[...]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>(please see my presentation slides, video, etc., </span><a href="https://www.internetsummit.africa/components/com_afmeeting/speakers/3283/3-Jordi-AFPUB-2019-v4-001-002.pdf"><span lang=EN-US>https://www.internetsummit.africa/components/com_afmeeting/speakers/3283/3-Jordi-AFPUB-2019-v4-001-002.pdf</span></a><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>, </span><a href="https://www.internetsummit.africa/en/agenda/video-day-3"><span lang=EN-US>https://www.internetsummit.africa/en/agenda/video-day-3</span></a><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>)</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Thanks Jordi.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’m just considering ARIN here because is the bigger donor of addresses (right now) to other regions, but of course, you can make the same rational when the other regions keep increasing the IPv6 deployment level.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If AFRINIC “enters” in the inter-RIR transfers “system” that we have now in the other 4 regions, this is the outcome, IF and ONLY IF, we have a reciprocal policy (at least for some regions, and specially ARIN):</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>AFRINIC will be able to get addresses from ARIN and other regions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>When the other regions increase their level of IPv6 deployment, they will become “natural” donors from many of the addresses that they got from ARIN. Of course, the speed of this will be different from region to region.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>At the end of the history, when AFRINIC has a very good IPv6 deployment penetration, the need for IPv4 addresses and the “value”, will start decreasing.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nobody has the crystal ball, that’s clear, but historical data reflects reality and trends.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Why this is going to be different if AFRINIC comes into the “inter-RIR” system?</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...uncertainty ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Now, all that said, I fully understand the “fear to the unknown” and that the community want to have some kind of protection, in the very strange case, that this time, the trends change suddenly what the historical data tells up to now.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This is why my proposal is:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Amend the policy proposal with the point raised by the staff, which hopefully I can see in the impact analysis soon.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Amend the policy proposal with other comments received during the presentation and the list discussion.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Include as a “security belt” the measures that we discussed in the list discussion:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>1. Each time a transfer is completed, the relevant, non-confidential information will be automatically published in a specific web page, including at least: Date of the transfer, transferred addresses, source organization and RIR, destination organization and RIR.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>2. The Inter-RIR transfers will only be enabled once AFRINIC enter into Exhaustion Phase 2 (5.4.3.2).</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> ...still ok with 1. & 2.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>3. The Inter-RIR transfers will be automatically suspended in case the number of outgoing IPv4 addresses exceeds the incoming ones by six consecutive months.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...no need to suspend the entire policy, and no need to count the months :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I agree that there is no need to suspend the policy, and that can be done thru the board (with actual bylaws), but this is a way to have a security belt and provide clarity for the community to agree on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Regarding the months, I disagree. We can’t measure just one month or the next one, because deals can take months to happen and what it may look as outbound one month, is actually inbound in a period of time. I’ve already explained this before.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>4. The staff can provisionally suspend any suspicious operation that creates a big unbalance against AFRINIC, until the board takes a decision.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...no need for any BoD intervention here, in fact i see it otherwise, please see below ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>As said, even if we don’t say that in the policy, it is in our bylaws. I prefer to make it explicit so to provide clarity.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This provides: transparency to the transfers, timeline to start, an automatic check month to month and “insurance of risk” at month 6 after implementation and then every next month, a further check of any suspicious operation that can be suspended by the staff so the board can decide about it or tell the community “this or that is happening, should we do something, should we definitively cancel the policy, etc.”.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...again, i prefer no BoD interventions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>You can’t avoid it, unless you change the bylaws. Having the text or not in the policy doesn’t make a difference, but having it provides clarity.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If somebody thinks this is not enough, please, explain why and propose </span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>To bypass the BoD intervention (4.), i propose an amendment which consists of a provision to automatically *<b>switch</b>* to a *<b>minimal state of this policy</b>*, where only incoming inter-RIR IPv4 transfers are allowed until the in/out balance pass zero <br>(exceeding by incoming transfers).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don’t agree on this, because this will mean the policy turns into something which is not reciprocal with ARIN, which means is useless. Having a non-reciprocal policy means that we can’t anymore receive resources form them. If we believe the policy is doing any harm, just halt it until we take a new decision. Simple and easier.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...of course, the same switching approach is sufficient to remove the need to stop/suspend the whole policy (3.) in case of *panic*. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>This *<b>switching approach</b>* could do more as expected :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...so think of a possibility to also switch, in some cases (TBD—ToBeDefine), to the innovative alternative proposed by Souad.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>If another proposal reach consensus, then that proposal may indicate that this one is suspended, or whatever. So no need for that.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>an alternative solution.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Alternatively, the above amendment should bring more light to my previous proposition <br>and approach. Let me paste its requirements here again : <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>* This is an alternative approach <br>* With it we can considerably diminish the risk of a deficitary in/out balance<br>* By difining a dedicated period to collect the inter-RIR transfer submissions (cases)<br>* By difining a dedicated period to study the inter-RIR transfer submitted<br>* These periods put together constitute a full cycle of inter-RIR transfer<br>* A cycle ends by the publication (at the same time), by the Staff, of the results|decisions <br>of the cases studied during that cycle<br>* Cycles are continued<br>* Durations (cycle, submission period, study period) : TBD (To Be Define)<br>* Special treathment for incoming transfers ;-)<br>* More control on the in/out balance<br>* Focus : *goal* balance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think this is creating unnecessary complexity, and adding complexity means it is much more difficult to reach consensus. The simple way is to have an reciprocal policy, and explicitly state that it can be suspended (not because it can’t be done without that text, but because that will provide clarity to the community, which may be reading this discussion and not reading at the same time the bylaws, service agreement, etc.).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Shalom,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>--sb.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> [...]</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div style='margin-bottom:33.75pt'><div><div id="m_82799172288679912LGEmailHeader"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>------ Original message------</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>SOUAD ABIDI</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Date: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Fri, Jul 12, 2019 6:50 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>AfriNIC List;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Cc: </span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>[rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hello, </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>As IPv4 are finite and if we do the transfer, our resources may run out from our region-since there is no a explicit control motioned in the policy - As some people argue.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Here what I suggest : </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=m82799172288679912gmail-msolistparagraph style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>??</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman ,serif",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'>Establishing a leasing contract between the seller and the buyer up to 5 years with a possibility to renew it and AfriNIC will be the 3<sup>rd</sup> part of the deal .</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m82799172288679912gmail-msolistparagraph style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>??</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman ,serif",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'>AfriNIC takes no money and makes no approval. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m82799172288679912gmail-msolistparagraph style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>??</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman ,serif",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'>The buyer needs to be registered somehow in the world.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m82799172288679912gmail-msolistparagraph style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>??</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman ,serif",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'>The contract needs to be signed by the 3 parts (afriNIC-seller-buyer)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m82799172288679912gmail-msolistparagraph style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'>So buy adopting this approach and if we notice that our resources are running out from our region, we can decide to bring them back and the companies do not renew the contract with . </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m82799172288679912gmail-msolistparagraph style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m82799172288679912gmail-msolistparagraph style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'>Best regards.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m82799172288679912gmail-msolistparagraph style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'>Souad</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>[...]<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Sylvain B.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><a href="http://www.chretiennement.org"><http://www.chretiennement.org></a> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'>__<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Website : <a href="https://www.cmnog.cm"><https://www.cmnog.cm></a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Wiki : <a href="https://www.cmnog.cm/dokuwiki"><https://www.cmnog.cm/dokuwiki></a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list RPD@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd <o:p></o:p></p></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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