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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 7/9/2019 à 10:51 AM, Arnaud AMELINA
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 15:52
Ernest Byaruhanga <<a href="mailto:ernest@afrinic.net"
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2019, at 23:54, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
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<div dir="auto">Are we changing the PDP through staff ? </div>
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<div>Arnaud thanks for these questions.</div>
<div>...no, because the PDP is still the same ;-) but its
implementation (IAR — Impact Analysis </div>
<div>Report) can be really improved and now we are waiting for real
*impact*, of this single <br>
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<div>change, in policy development activities.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Are we imposing staff analysis to each
revision of proposal being discussed ? </div>
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<div>IMHO, it's critical to have an IAR published for *every*
version of *any* draft policy proposal.</div>
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<div>...but no, we do not, because it's a decision taken (with good
intentions, no doubt, but also <br>
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<div>with a bad result after) by the previous WG Chairs and the
AFRINIC Staff, long time (we don't </div>
<div>know when) before Jordi decides to raise the issue [1].
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IMHO, the question could be : Is it actually possible to have that
level of disponibility of IARs ?
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<div>...the *YES* answer came from the Staff, but for me i don't
care right now because i will <br>
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<div>(if GOD permit) check that affirmation during the coming twelve
months prior to make my </div>
<div>own conclusion about this solution ; then i will be able to
take a personal new decision
<div>accordingly. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Are we revoking chairs prerogative to request
staff analysis when it is needed? </div>
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<div>Honestly, the answer could be yes, only if we consider the
whole case but not if we focus on the <br>
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<div>good initiative taken by Jordi. </div>
<div>...but again, those who abandoned [2] this provision of the CPM
section 3.4.1, was our previous </div>
<div>Chairs and, of course, the Community who was unable to see it
happen. I mean this is broken <br>
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<div>since an unknown date [2], as already said above...</div>
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<div dir="auto"> While new proposal seems obvious, who
decides what is large change or small change? </div>
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<div>Good question Arnaud. </div>
<div>...is it not just a matter of *structural* type of draft policy
proposals ? {on this thread [3]
<div> Jordi did some observations about how the proposed policy
changes could influence the <br>
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'complexity' the Staff are facing while realising impact
analysis.} </div>
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<div dir="auto">Is this not the cochairs call?</div>
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<div>...yes it's the PDWG Chairs responsibility, but now the Staff
has just to convince the new Chairs <br>
<div> as they did with the previous :-)
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<div>IMHO, the diffence with *this agreement* is that there is
better outcome to expect : an IAR <br>
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<div>published for *every* version of *any* draf policy proposal.</div>
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<div>[1]: The entire thread shows that we have tried different
solutions, including a draft policy proposal </div>
<div>only for IARs Timely Publication : <<a
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009540.html"
target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/p<wbr>ipermail/rpd/2019/009540.html</a>></div>
<div>[2]: <<a
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009033.html"
target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>pipermail/rpd/2019/009033.html</a><wbr>></div>
<div>[3]:
<<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009542.html">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009542.html</a><wbr>></div>
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<div>Hope this could help.</div>
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<div>Shalom,</div>
<div>--sb.</div>
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