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<p>Dear all,<br>
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Let's proceed like in normal life! To each encountered problem, human has to draw lessons!<br>
It's simply the way I saw the valuable contribution of Mirriam. But meanwhile, there is no way to be sure, beyond common sense, that the way further she suggested can work within our community!<br>
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Community <span lang="en" tabindex="0">rhymes</span> with diverse interests, different opinions. But here, all these must be aligned behind AfriNIC vision, mission and its core values as (From https://afrinic.net/history ) :</p>
<h2>Our Vision</h2>
<p>"Be the leading force in growing the internet for Africa's sustainable development"</p>
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<h2>Our Mission</h2>
<p>"To serve the African Community by providing professional and efficient management of Internet number technology usage and development, and promoting Internet self-governance."</p>
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<h2>Our Core Values</h2>
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<li>Community-driven</li>
<li>Operational excellence</li>
<li>Passion</li>
<li>Innovation & Creativity</li>
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Dr Ousmane TESSA<br>
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Omo Oaiya <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>> a écrit :</p>
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<p>What this suggests then is that John is right. We sometimes understand the same paragraph differently. FWIW, I am part of the community that agrees with Mirriam on possible next steps. Perhaps we can focus and comment on the substance now? </p>
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<div>On 7 Jul 2019, at 12:27, Jaco Kroon <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za">jaco@uls.co.za</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p>My interpretation stands with John in that Andrew was not attempting to speak on and for the community, but rather voiced his own opinion and believe that Mirriam could not based on the current information available draw any conclusions on behalf of the community.</p>
<p>I agree with Andrew.</p>
<p>Kind Regards,<br>
Jaco</p>
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<div>On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 07:57, John Hay <<a href="mailto:john@sanren.ac.za" moz-do-not-send="true">john@sanren.ac.za</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi Sami and all the others,</div>
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<div>It is interesting how different people can read the same paragraph and understand it very differently. What I understood when I read Andrew's email was more like this:</div>
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<div>"Do not make a decision yet Mirriam. The community has not decided yet. Just because there were a few vocally against it, does not mean the community is against it."</div>
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<div>Is it what he really meant? I do not know.</div>
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<div>Interesting! When I read it, I interpreted Andrew as doing exactly the same as he was accusing Mirriam of i.e speaking for the community or part thereof. </div>
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<div>I saw Mirriam as suggesting an approach which makes a lot of sense. We should not shroud in a trivial discussion about what to call ourselves.</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 08:02, Sami Salih <<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>While I can't support or oppose what <span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline">Mirriam says, I didn't like the way you put your self as judge onbehave of the community. Pls revise your two sentences (</span><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">"plenty members of this community who are just fine" and "</span><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">opposition has been relatively limited").</span></div>
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<font size="2" style="font-size:10pt">T/F: (249)122045707/187171355</font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 6, 2019 7:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mirriamlauren@yahoo.com" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">mirriamlauren@yahoo.com</a>; JORDI PALET MARTINEZ; <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
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