<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 07:57, John Hay <<a href="mailto:john@sanren.ac.za" class="">john@sanren.ac.za</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi Sami and all the others,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It is interesting how different people can read the same paragraph and understand it very differently. What I understood when I read Andrew's email was more like this:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"Do not make a decision yet Mirriam. The community has not decided yet. Just because there were a few vocally against it, does not mean the community is against it."</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is it what he really meant? I do not know.</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Interesting! When I read it, I interpreted Andrew as doing exactly the same as he was accusing Mirriam of i.e speaking for the community or part thereof. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I saw Mirriam as suggesting an approach which makes a lot of sense. We should not shroud in a trivial discussion about what to call ourselves.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Omo</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 08:02, Sami Salih <<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com" target="_blank" class="">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="">While I can't support or oppose what <span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline" class="">Mirriam says, I didn't like the way you put your self as
judge onbehave of the community. Pls revise your two sentences (</span><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class="">"plenty members of this community who are just fine" and "</span><span style="color:rgb(32,31,30);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class="">opposition
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<div class="gmail-m_291091959815245814gmail-m_-2460693075459281701x_WordSection1"><p class="gmail-m_291091959815245814gmail-m_-2460693075459281701x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Mirriam,</span></p><div class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="gmail-m_291091959815245814gmail-m_-2460693075459281701x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" class="">I have just one question – why do you feel that you can talk on behalf of the community in the way that you are? You state:</span></p><div class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div id="gmail-m_291091959815245814gmail-m_-2460693075459281701x_yMail_cursorElementTracker_1562369899000" class=""><p class="gmail-m_291091959815245814gmail-m_-2460693075459281701x_MsoNormal"><i class="">Since Larus Foundation fellowship program is not popular within the community due to the issues raised by members of the community, my suggestion and I will repeat again, is that AFRINIC takes a central role with matters related to
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<div class=""><p class="gmail-m_291091959815245814gmail-m_-2460693075459281701x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Who is this community you refer to? Because – I’m pretty sure there are plenty members of this community who are just fine with what they have done – myself included – and in fact the opposition has been relatively
limited. So – is the community suddenly just a few detractors? Does this mean I, and others like me, are not part of “the community”? I really get a little concerned when I pretty consistently see these grandiose statements on behalf of “the community”
rather than stating individual opinions, or the opinions of a specific sub-set.</span></p><div class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="gmail-m_291091959815245814gmail-m_-2460693075459281701x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Andrew</span></p><div class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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