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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Souad,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I basically agree with your inputs, except the one about the “booklet”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Printing is expensive and not good for the planet. Most of the time it goes to the waste can.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I can suggest an alternative thing. A specific web page, remarked in each even web page top menu that contains a PDF with the relevant information for all the policy proposals for that meeting, links to them, etc. This way, the people that prefer printed, can find their own way to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>This document can have a small introductory section about how to subcribe to the mailing list, review the archives, remark the “preparatory” meetings agenda, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I think it should be just 1-2 pages. We don’t need to duplicate the content of the policy proposals, just ask each author a 1-paragraph to shortly summarize each proposal it their own words. Link to the full proposal text and done!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I’m happy as well to contribute to that work if the staff needs it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The weminars we already proposed are important as well. Right now I’m already missing the chats among the authors to define the July, August and September weminars. Are we moving on that, or are we finally wasting half of the time that we have until the next meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>We need *<b>much more</b>* proactivity, please!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 3/7/19 11:51, "SOUAD ABIDI" <<a href="mailto:fs_abidi@esi.dz">fs_abidi@esi.dz</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>After attending two AfriNIC meetings, I noticed that afriNIC boot doesn't have any flayers, booklets or any kind of printed material to share with the newcomers about how AfriNIC works or the main policies to discuss in the meeting period.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Below some suggestions : <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>a) To have a booklet about the hottest topics written by Policy authors in each afriNIC meeting , where they explain briefly the policy in a simple way, which in my opinion will increase the rate of participation in the room, since most of the newcomers are not subscribed in the mailing list yet so not aware about what's going on. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>b) I agree with Jordi to make a session with newcomers after the newcomers' session on the first day, to discuss the policies before the PDP day. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>c) I suggest for AfriNIC fellowship program, to make a mandatory course to complete by the fellows before attending the meeting so they can have an idea about the AFRINIC meeting and getting a maximum contribution during the meeting. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I know that AFRINIC website has many resources, but a dedicated course to the newcomers with a scope from each main area, I believe would be useful(As ICANN does with the fellows).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>[I volunteer to contribute in this if it's approved]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>By doing so, we won't let the floor to multiple resources that might lead to confusion.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Best regards.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Souad<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Le mer. 3 juil. 2019 à 09:48, Sami Salih <<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Salam,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If I remember well, the colonists also came to "<b>help</b>".<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>To help someone/nation you need to be humble enough to give them the abstract things (Materials in this case), especially when dealing with young/fresh fellows. I believe from my long teaching experience that its much better to pass the abstract level of the knowledge so that student can use his own brain/logic to drawn the conclusion based on his logic. Giving youth ready made conclusions to just parroting others logic is much harming. Increasing the population at AFRINIC meeting is not a goal.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>To show the good well of the fellowship providers, its much better to involve AFRINIC in the process from selection throw education and then effectively contribute to the meeting. This is the only way to assure sustainable, valuable, and trusted contributions and to build a real "<b><u>bottom-up</u></b>", "<b>Open</b>", and "<b>Transparent</b>" process in a real <b>democratic</b> way. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Those who are in my age may remember this "<b>no separation for one nation down down colonization</b>"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="gmail-m_2991051665500220554Signature"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>Dr. Sami H.O. Salih</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST<br>Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN<br>President of SDv6TF<br>T/F: (249)122045707/187171355</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:center'><hr size=0 width="78%" align=center></div><div id="gmail-m_2991051665500220554divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Ousmane M. TESSA <<a href="mailto:ousmane@musatesa.net" target="_blank">ousmane@musatesa.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 3, 2019 11:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ<br><b>Cc:</b> General Discussions of AFRINIC; AfriNIC List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>A+ Jordi!<br><br>As an academic, most useful educational materials to leraners community have to be FAIR (findable accessible interoperable and reusable)!<br><br>So selective use of filtered and uncorrect "quoted" opinions have a flavour of ... project!<br><br>Those who say that they come as samaritain to "help" must bear in mind that AfriNIC community is more agile and smart than they think!<br><br>RESPECT! RESPECT! "Shouting is not a act of vitality"!<br><br>Dr Ousmane TESSA<br><br><br>JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 9.0pt;margin-left:1.5pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Actually, I think this is something to be done by Afrinic, with the help of PDP chairs and policy proposal authors. The goal is not to convince them about *<b>any</b>* policy proposal, just to have more open time for openly discussing them, and mainly oriented to newcomers, but not only.</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I’ve actually suggested (several times) for the last couple of years, some of those activities, that I’ve suggested as well in other RIRs and have been implemented already, with a great success. Up to now, it has never been done, despite how much I’ve insisted (staff and co-chairs can confirm that I’ve once and again provided lots of those ideas).</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Here is a copy & paste of an email about that with the staff:</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>… concrete actions some of the in every meeting:</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> 1) Setting up open sessions for discussion with policy proposal authors. The idea is that all the authors (willing to contribute) have a short explanation of each policy proposal (no slides, a common slide with titles of all policy proposals just for reference), and they can discuss openly with the participants. There is not any decision process here.</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> In order to plan agenda, I suggest doing this after the session for newcomers and/or sponsored fellows, same meeting room, so the people don't need to move, make it as easier as possible for them. In LACNIC we did that on Sunday evening because most of the folks travel on the morning. Distances and flights aren't the same in this region, so we should consider that.</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> 2) Setting up specific tables for lunch for the same. Similar to above, so people with interest or questions about policy proposal, can sit down with authors to have a more open discussion.</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> 3) Group Dynamics. Take newcomers and other people interested in the PDP. One morning before the policy-day. Create 3-4 small groups depending on how many folks participate (may be more if there are more people, but you need one staff or co-chair for each group), and each group should work in "understanding" a different policy proposal, looking for pros-cons, and trying to "develop" consensus on it and then presenting shortly their results to all the groups. The idea is that they get used to the process and can bring their views to the policy day. As the previous ones, this is not a formal part of the PDP. But in LACNIC has been useful because new people get engaged in the list and in the mics of the meeting.</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Regards,</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jordi</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>@jordipalet</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>El 2/7/19 20:55, "Noah" <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, 17:11 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss, <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>When anyone present a summary of a policy proposal (which has been done already by the authors) you’re directly or indirectly doing your own analysis and arguing for or against based on your own perspective. This is influencing participants, it can be never 100% unbiassed.</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>+1 Jordi <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I believe Wafa has provided far much better educational materials (unbiassed) on the policy development process to all the newbie's who can parse through and understand through those various links the origins of AfriNIC and how the entire pdp process works.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>If anything, new folks would find the rpd list and its archives even more educational than a well documented and somewhat misleading document which is suspect.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I have been party to various working groups that lobby for or against some policies which is completely fine but the Larus Foundation approach is on some next level and seriously undermines the entire pdp process.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m2991051665500220554xmsonormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Noah<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><br>**********************************************<br>IPv4 is over<br>Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br><a href="http://www.theipv6company.com" target="_blank">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>The IPv6 Company<br><br>This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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