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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>One more point to add.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I recall it has been said that fellows don’t sign an NDA and you also indicated that everything is public.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>However, when I read your T&C, it says:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>II. FELLOW’S OBLIGATIONS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>J. LARUS’s intellectual property rights (including but not limited to agreements, documents, software, databases, website) may only be used, reproduced and made available to third parties upon prior written authorization from LARUS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So, I think this is contradictory.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 3/7/19 17:45, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss" <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Anne-Vivien,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I don’t have any doubt about the good intent, but looking at your attachment, it is more negative than good for the community, at least, in my opinion.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It is discussing about older versions of the policy proposals (even withdraw ones), so it confuses people.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It is citing only some of the inputs in the list and making your own summary of the problem and how it is addressed, so it is biased.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It is extracting “pros” and “cons”, so again, it is biasing people.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think this should not be done by third parties, but authors and staff (see our previous email on this about a 1-2 pages PDF), not going into 2 and 3 above and making sure that is done 1 week before the meeting, so only *<b>latest</b>* proposals/versions are considered.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>El 3/7/19 17:34, "Anne-vivien Paris" <<a href="mailto:a.v.p@outsideheaven.com">a.v.p@outsideheaven.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>Dear all, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>Judging from the recent dicussions on our Foundation, we deem it necessary to clarify things in order to prevent any misunderstanding within the community. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>As stated several times, the Foundation is not a secretive organization. It is a registered NGO recognized by local government and everything we do is obliged by the law. Openness, equity and freedom are our principles. To prevent further confusion, I hereby attach the original copy of the Education Package we provide to our fellow. Nothing has been amended as we would like to show you the original work (an apology goes to the fact that staff mistakenly messed Noah's comment with another party, thanks for pointing that out Noah). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>In fact, you can also find the T&C in the link below: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><a href="https://www.larusfoundation.org/fellowship-term-conditions/" target="_blank">https://www.larusfoundation.org/fellowship-term-conditions/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>We would be more than happy to provide our T&C and education package to the community for review should there be such a request in the future.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>Best regards, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>Vivien <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><b><span style='color:#888888'>Vivien PARIS</span></b><span style='color:#888888'><br><b>Larus FOUNDATION</b><br>p:+44 7746 416450</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='color:#888888'>w: <a href="http://www.larusfoundation.org/" target="_blank">www.larusfoundation.org</a><br>a:B5,11/F,TML Tower,No.3 Hoi Shing Road,Tsuen Wan,HKSAR</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>_______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br>**********************************************<br>IPv4 is over<br>Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>http://www.theipv6company.com<br>The IPv6 Company<br><br>This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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