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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/30/19 5:06 PM, Noah wrote:<br>
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Meanwhile, the below came though by means of IANA and not
through IPv$ broker-based transfer policies. <br>
41/8 Apr 2005 <br>
197/8 Oct 2008<br>
105 / 8 Nov 2010 <br>
102 / 8 Feb 2011 <br>
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<div>Wouldn't it be much wiser for AfriNIC to lobby on behalf
of its members for more space into the continent rather than
through a broker based mechanism. <br>
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<p>Who would they lobby?</p>
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<div>I mean, who do the brokers benefit if not themselves? </div>
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<p>Some brokers are fairer than others.</p>
<p>When you go to the market, do you expect that the person selling
you everything you buy made it themselves? No, you expect a broker
to find someone who has a thing to sell and someone who wants to
buy the thing and bring them together. A broker can also help make
sure that the agreed price is paid and that the thing is
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<p>Do you need a broker? No, if you know someone who has addresses
and is willing to give them to you, then you are welcome to do
that. <br>
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<div>In Rabat in Morocco in 2008, I stood on the floor during
the PPM meeting and expressed my distaste for IPv$ because I
clearly understood the impact that a single IPv4 address can
have socioeconomically. Therefore if there is
knowledge/whispers within the African Internet community
about some resource members who somehow managed to forge
their application for membership and ended up getting
resources which are being monetized instead of being used to
build Internet Infrastructure in the continent, then this
policy proposal becomes even more riskier for Africa to say
the least. <br>
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<p>Are there such members? You say that if there is fraud, then this
policy is risky.</p>
<p>I wonder if people who committed fraud to obtain addresses would
be honest enough to keep those addresses inside Africa, because of
current policy. <br>
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<div><b>./noah</b></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 11:38
PM Ronald F. Guilmette <<a
href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" moz-do-not-send="true">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">In
message <<a
href="mailto:539D1303-4A80-4ACB-A70A-9CBD8E4C3B73@consulintel.es"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">539D1303-4A80-4ACB-A70A-9CBD8E4C3B73@consulintel.es</a>>,
Jordi wrote:<br>
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>As said, this is something that the legal counsel should
clarify.<br>
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I can only say that I hope that -someone- will provide a
definitive<br>
answer.<br>
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I should perhaps clarify that my interest in knowing the<br>
current operative meaning of Section 6.1 of the Afrinic Bylaws<br>
is a consequence of my belief that more than one party that is<br>
located outside of the Afrinic region and that is providing
-no-<br>
services whatsoever within the Afrinic region are already
enjoying<br>
the benefits arising from the exclusive use of
Afrinic-assigned<br>
IPv4 number resources.<br>
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In a couple of cases, in particular, this is troubling to me
for<br>
various specific reasons. Now I just want to know if the
relevant<br>
specific assignments even comport with the Afrinic Bylaws, as<br>
written and as currently construed. Do they or don't they? I
am<br>
still seeking a definitive answer.<br>
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Regards,<br>
rfg<br>
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