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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 6/26/2019 à 9:36 AM, JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via RPD a écrit :<br>
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it more neutral and having the knowledge of the operational
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<div> Hi Jordi, if i'm getting you well, (permit me please) you are
saying that it if we need a policy proposal turned as an
operational procedure, we should leave the exclisivity up to the
Staff to submit it to the PDWG prior to be implemented... Am i
wrong ?<br>
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policy proposals, is perfectly valid. Nothing is against
that in the PDP. They follow exactly the same process: the
community must also approve it.</span></p>
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<div> IMHO, i see no real need (yes :-) the neutrality you mentioned
above) to *Varying the process* here. I mean someone, from the
PDWG, should just submit it (if needed), then it will follow the
normal PDP (Impact Analysis Report will raise the Staff concern
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<div>My point is that, we want the Staff more proactive [1], to
*timely* provide needed information (including legal one) both
onlist and at PPM (CPM section 3.4.0), to *timely* provide Impact
Analysis Reports (CPM section 3.4.1)...and as actually proven,
it's not easy to get it done.</div>
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it was developed in RIPE NCC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Ernest, Madhvi or other staff want to take it?</span></p>
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<div>...i don't think that they should be involved in the PDP as
author, even just in case of emergency :-)</div>
<div>Is there not also a bit of *conflict of interest* ?</div>
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they could do this just an operational procedure, but if
we prefer a policy, this is nice way in the middle.</span></p>
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<div>Ok with that, and again i see no problem if any other
participant (or an other special WG which may exist ?) decides to
author|submit such an operational policy proposal :-) </div>
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<div>[1]: <span class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009626.html"><https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009626.html></a></span></div>
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<div>Shalom,</div>
<div>--sb.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 26/6/19
10:29, "Nasir Faruk" <<a
href="mailto:nasirfaruk@gmail.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">@SOUAD
ABIDI,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I think the
author sent ARC document as a suggestion or rather
something worth looking at that could assists to shape the
discussion on INR. I am sure it's presented as a new
proposal.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">@Dewole, i
hope i'm right?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Faruk.<o:p></o:p></p>
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