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<p>Hi all,</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 6/24/2019 à 3:03 PM, JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via RPD a écrit :<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Hi Sylvain,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">You’re good man! You just convinced me and I’m
not easy ;-)</span></p>
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<p>...i'm trying to do my best, for sure, by the grace of THE Lord.
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<p>Jordi i have a similar thought about you :-)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I accept your bet ;-) Let’s have *<b>now</b>* a
very simple policy proposal for making the impact analysis
timely mandatory.</span></p>
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<p>Thanks for have accepted this challenge. We have an opportunity
to bring less policy proposals, under discussion, at the next PPM
(Public Policy Meeting) ; because some of them would have already
reached consensus before and that is very good news.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">...not sure if we can do it so simple as you want
it ; but...we should try ;-) <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><br>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I’m proposing you the following and I’m doing
it openly in the list, so others can provide inputs as well.</span></p>
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<p>I agree, let's discuss openly to collect any available input :-)<br>
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">According “3.6 Varying the Process”, for that
we need a *<b>co-chair</b>* to accept it. Any taker?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">This is the variance that I’m proposing:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Publish officially the policy proposal and
start a 4-weeks for community discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">If after that, the chairs believe there is
consensus, last-call for 4-weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">If there is no-consensus, allow to repeat the
process, maximum up to one month before the next meeting
(then there is no need for the variance of the process).<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p>4. This Variance decision shall take effect one month after its
publication on the PDP list.</p>
<p>5. That first month after the publication of the Variance
decision shall serve to prepare the commuty before the effective
start point of the cycle of variance.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><b>*Question*</b> : where to store this Variance decision and its
future successors ?</p>
<p>...to what i understand, when published it becomes part of the
PDP and supersides all existent concurrent texts which might
conflict with it. <br>
</p>
<p><b>*A Proposed Answer*</b></p>
<p>With the CPM section 3.6, can we conclude that it's not possible
to alter the CPM to insert|store the variance decision ? (perhaps
we should also prepare a policy proposal to amend the CPM section
3.6 :-/)<br>
</p>
<p>I have an idea, i'm not sure it could work fine. But let's give
it a try please :-)</p>
<p>...so when the Chairs annonce a new variance of the CPM, we can
tag the title of all the section affected by the new variance
decision by something like [SUPERSIDED by Variance in Place ; see
Section 3.6.1] :</p>
<p>+ We leave the actual texts of any affected sections as it is :</p>
<p>+ Just add a special tag with a small text to the title ?</p>
<p>Like this : [SUPERSIDED by the Varying in Place ; see section
3.6.1]</p>
<p>+ Title the section 3.6.1 by : Active Variance Process Decisions<br>
</p>
<p>+ Paste the variance decision at the section 3.6.1. (new
sub-section)</p>
<p>+ Remove the content of the section when the Variance Decision
expires.</p>
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lang="EN-US">***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">ACTUAL text (at 3.4.1):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-US">The
Working Group Chair(s) may request AFRINIC to provide an
analysis (technical, financial, legal or other), of the
impact of the draft policy proposal.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">DRAFT proposed text (replace the previous
text):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">AFRINIC will publish an impact analysis
(technical, financial, legal or other) at least 10 days
before the next Public Policy Meeting. If justified, in case
of extremely complex new policy proposals, AFRINIC will
publish at least a draft version of the impact analysis.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">***</span></p>
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<p>As discussed before, the problem to solve is too complex. To
handle most of the complexity, i propose this text instead : </p>
<p>
</p>
<p>*** DRAFT proposed text (replace the previous text):<br>
* The AFRINIC Staff publish (website and RPD mailinglist) an
impact analysis report <span class="tlid-translation translation"
lang="en"> <span title="" class="">during the first week after
a new policy proposal is published.</span></span></p>
<p><span class="tlid-translation translation" lang="en"><span
title="" class="">* When a new version of a policy proposal is
published, on request of the Chair(s) or the Author(s), the
Staff publish a new impact analysis report, during the first
week after the publication of that policy proposal version.</span></span></p>
<p><span class="tlid-translation translation" lang="en"><span
title="" class="">* </span></span>No impact analysis report
should be published ten (10) days before the next Public Policy
Meeting. <br>
</p>
<p>* If justified, in case of extremely complex new policy
proposals, AFRINIC Staff publish at least a draft version of the
impact analysis report.</p>
<p>* An impact analysis report shall be of one or both following
types : technical, financial, legal or other. <br>
*** END</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">This small change in our PDP will prove
ourselves that AFRINIC community is able to pro-actively
discuss and pass policy proposals in the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">What do you think?</span></p>
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I agree that we are doing a good job (thank GOD), together, and
hopefully some other will follow this challenging approach.
<p><br>
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span></p>
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<p>__</p>
<p>[1]: <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/</a>
</p>
<p>[2]: <a
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009578.html">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009578.html</a></p>
<p>[3]: Like is not the right word, say as it is, i think that your
text has no yet taken in account all the information we have
publicly discussed.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Shalom,</p>
<p>--sb.</p>
<p><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 24/6/19
15:20, "Sylvain BAYA" <<a
href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">abscoco@gmail.com</a>>
escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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