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    <p>Hi,</p>
    <p>"micro" (total IPv6 space is a single /32, IPv4 is a /22 and /21.</p>
    <p>About a day for a single person since we keep records and try to
      keep our whois data up to date as well.</p>
    <p>So in terms of operational cost, around $1000 USD.</p>
    <p>This assumes that AfriNIC will simply require a breakdown of how
      our IP space is allocated and not more in-depth analysis of how
      well (or not) some of our customers utilize the sub-allocated
      space, or in some cases, the wastage as required by some of our
      upstream service providers.<br>
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      <p>Kind Regards,<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019/06/24 17:31, JORDI PALET
      MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            lang="EN-US">I think there is one more cost to be considered
            here as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Each
              time an ISP gets the audit, it will need to dedicate staff
              for that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">It is
              dificult to calculate “how much” that means, as it may
              depend on many factors, such as how big is the ISP, how
              many resources they have, how many customers from
              different types (business, residential), what provisioning
              system they have, IPAM if any, level of “automation” and
              “inventory” of the network, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">May be
              it is a good exersice for some of you to calculate (rought
              idea), how much staff/resources and how many weeks, this
              will take to you, if the policy it is implemented?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">A few
              examples, could help the community to take a decision.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 24/6/19
              17:25, "Timothy Ola Akinfenwa" <<a
                href="mailto:akin.akinfenwa@uniosun.edu.ng"
                moz-do-not-send="true">akin.akinfenwa@uniosun.edu.ng</a>>
              escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hello
              Andrew, <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">While I
                also agree that Staff provide information on the likely
                financial implication for the audit, I don't understand
                why there should be a separate allocation for
                litigation. <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Is it wise
                for an organisation to budget funds for likely court
                cases when instead they should strive to prevent one in
                the first place? <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">For me, I
                think it is critical to ensure that Staff actions on any
                audit review does not amount to litigation. And this may
                be captured as a suggestion in the policy as well, if
                necessary.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt">Best! <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Sent
                  from my OnePlus mobile device! </>$aa;<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Mon,
                  24 Jun 2019, 3:53 PM Andrew Alston, <<a
                    href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I
                          would agree that these numbers would be useful
                          - and must in addition include contingent
                          liability allocation for litigation that could
                          result due to implementation of this policy<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Andrew
                          <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Liquid
                          Telecommunications - Group Head Of IP Strategy<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span
                          style="color:black">From:</span></b><span
                        style="color:black"> Ish Sookun <<a
                          href="mailto:ish.sookun@lasentinelle.mu"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ish.sookun@lasentinelle.mu</a>><br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 24, 2019 5:39:19 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Proposal Update
                        received: Internet Number Resources Review by
                        AFRINIC</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dear
                      PDWG Co-Chairs,<br>
                      <br>
                      It was expressed during the last meeting that this
                      policy will have<br>
                      financial implications on AfriNIC due to costs
                      associated to auditing.<br>
                      <br>
                      Is it possible to obtain an approximate cost
                      figure (from staff) that<br>
                      such audits would entail?<br>
                      <br>
                      Regards,<br>
                      <br>
                      Ish Sookun<br>
                      <br>
                      On 6/8/19 10:24 PM, Dewole Ajao wrote:<br>
                      > Dear PDWG members,<br>
                      > <br>
                      > This is to inform you that authors of the
                      policy proposal named "Internet Number Resources
                      Review by AFRINIC" have submitted an updated
                      version (Draft version 8) as included below. The
                      URL will be shared once published online.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > Please take some time to go through the
                      proposal contents and provide your feedback.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > Thank you.<br>
                      > PDWG Co-Chairs<br>
                      > <br>
                      > <br>
                      >
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                      > <br>
                      > ------------------- Begin<br>
                      >
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                      > <br>
                      >     Name : Internet Number Resources Review
                      by AFRINIC (Draft 8)<br>
                      >     Ref. Name: AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT08<br>
                      >     Status: Under Discussion<br>
                      >     Date: 7 June 2019<br>
                      >    <br>
                      > Authors:<br>
                      >         (a) Amelina A. A. Arnaud | <<a
                        href="mailto:arnaud.amelina@togorer.tg"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">arnaud.amelina@togorer.tg</a><br>
                      > <mailto:<a
                        href="mailto:arnaud.amelina@togorer.tg"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">arnaud.amelina@togorer.tg</a>>>
                      | AUF/TogoRER<br>
                      >         (b) Jean-Baptiste Millogo |<<a
                        href="mailto:jean.millogo@orange.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jean.millogo@orange.com</a><br>
                      > <mailto:<a
                        href="mailto:jean.millogo@orange.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jean.millogo@orange.com</a>>>|
                      Orange Burkina<br>
                      >         (c) Marcus ADOMEY  <<a
                        href="mailto:madomey@ug.edu.gh" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@ug.edu.gh</a><br>
                      > <mailto:<a href="mailto:madomey@ug.edu.gh"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@ug.edu.gh</a>>>
                       | University of Ghana<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.0 Summary of the Problem Being Addressed
                      by this Policy Proposal<br>
                      > <br>
                      > As Internet Number resources are finite,
                      their allocation is based on<br>
                      > the operational needs of end-users and
                      Internet Services Providers,<br>
                      > while avoiding stockpiling in accordance with
                      RFC7020, IPv4 Allocation<br>
                      > Policy CPM 5.5, IPv6 Allocation and
                      assignment policy CPM 6.5 and Policy<br>
                      > for Autonomous System Numbers (ASN)
                      Management in the AFRINIC region CPM<br>
                      > 7.0.Section 4 of the Registration Service
                      Agreement (RSA) provides the<br>
                      > framework for investigations of the usage of
                      allocated Internet Number<br>
                      > resources, defines members’ obligation to
                      cooperate and the measures to<br>
                      > be taken by AFRINIC in case of failure to
                      comply. The lack of such<br>
                      > investigation or regular control can lead to
                      inefficient usage of the<br>
                      > Internet Number resources, to stockpiling and
                      other type of abuses.<br>
                      >  <br>
                      > 13.0.1 Summary of How this Proposal Addresses
                      the Problem<br>
                      > <br>
                      > In order to ensure efficient and appropriate
                      use of resources, AFRINIC<br>
                      > shall conduct regular reviews of resource
                      utilisation held by its<br>
                      > members. This would allow recovery of any
                      type of resource, where usage<br>
                      > is not in compliance with the RSA. Those
                      resources can be reallocated<br>
                      > for better usage.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.0.2 Proposal<br>
                      > <br>
                      > The policy proposal will modify the CPM as
                      follows:<br>
                      > <br>
                      > Insert a section 13 to the CPM as follows:<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.0 Internet Number Resources Review<br>
                      > <br>
                      > Regular reviews of resource utilisation are
                      conducted by AFRINIC to<br>
                      > ensure efficient and appropriate usage of
                      resources. This allows for<br>
                      > recovery of any type of resource where usage
                      is not in compliance with<br>
                      > the RSA; to allow such resources to be
                      reallocated for better usage.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.1 The reviews shall be based on compliance
                      with the terms outlined in<br>
                      > the RSA and Allocation/Assignment Policies.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.2 The reviews cover all allocated/Assigned
                      resources, but priority<br>
                      > goes to IPv4 and ASN mappable to two-octet
                      ASN.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.3 Classes of review: Members to be
                      reviewed shall be selected<br>
                      > according to the following classes:<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.3.1 Random<br>
                      > <br>
                      > The member is chosen by AFRINIC at random
                      between the members who has<br>
                      > not been reviewed for any other reasons in
                       the preceding 24 months.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.3.2 Selected<br>
                      > <br>
                      >  Member is selected because of an internal
                      report or due to a lack of<br>
                      > contact between the AFRINIC and the member.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.3.3 Reported: <br>
                      > <br>
                      > Here, members are reviewed either because:<br>
                      > <br>
                      > A) They have requested the review themselves
                      or<br>
                      > <br>
                      > B) There has been a community complaint made
                      against them that warrants<br>
                      > investigation. Complaints shall be backed by
                      evidence and AFRINIC staff<br>
                      > shall evaluate the facts as appropriate to
                      conduct the review. However<br>
                      > this review is not applicable to a member
                       with the same resources<br>
                      > portfolio on which a full review has been
                      completed in the preceding 24<br>
                      > months.<br>
                      > <br>
                      >  AFRINIC staff may, at its sole discretion,
                      after having assessed the<br>
                      > nature of the evidence found in the community
                      complaint, require that<br>
                      > such evidence be (i) submitted in the form of
                      a sworn affidavit or (ii)<br>
                      > declared to be true before a Commissioner of
                      Oath.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.4 In case of non-compliance and if
                      evidence has been established in<br>
                      > accordance with:<br>
                      > <br>
                      > •    Breach of AFRINIC policies<br>
                      > •    Breach of the provisions of the
                      registration service agreement or<br>
                      > other legal agreements between the
                      organisation holding the resource and<br>
                      > AFRINIC.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > AFRNIC shall initiate the resource recovery
                      process on the portion of<br>
                      > addresses found to be noncompliant.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > A) AFRINIC shall attempt to contact the
                      organisation and correct any<br>
                      > discrepancy towards the RSA. Except in cases
                      of fraudulent resource<br>
                      > acquisition or  unlawful usage and abuse, the
                      organization shall be<br>
                      > given a minimum of six(6) months to effect
                      the return of the resources.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > If the organisation is cooperative and
                      working in good faith to<br>
                      > substantially restore compliance or has a
                      valid need for additional time<br>
                      > to renumber out of the affected blocks,
                      AFRINIC shall negotiate a longer<br>
                      > term.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > The acceptance level of compliance and
                      duration of the longer term are<br>
                      > at AFRINIC staff discretion.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > B) If the situation cannot be rectified and
                      the member did not transfer<br>
                      > the resources to meet other AFRINIC-approved
                      needs as per adopted policies<br>
                      > <br>
                      >  AFRINIC shall publish the resources to be
                      recovered for a period of<br>
                      > three (3) months; during which the
                      organisation may at any time, seek<br>
                      > compliance or transfer the resources to other
                      members<br>
                      > <br>
                      >  After this period, the resource shall be
                      recovered and therefore the<br>
                      > records of the previous holder of the
                      recovered resource shall be<br>
                      > updated in AFRINIC’s databases.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > C)  Any Internet Number Resources recovered
                      under this policy may be<br>
                      > assigned/allocated under existing Allocation
                      and Assignment Policies.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.5 Appeal procedure<br>
                      > <br>
                      > Reviewed members who are not satisfied have
                      the right to appeal against<br>
                      > the results on the review within the four
                      weeks following communication<br>
                      > of the results by AFRINIC. Appeals shall
                      follow an arbitration process<br>
                      > as provided for in the<br>
                      > Code de Procedure Civile (Code of Civil
                      Procedure) of the Republic of<br>
                      > Mauritius. AFRINIC may, on request from an
                      aggrieved party, suggest a<br>
                      > pool of arbitrators who shall be
                      knowledgeable volunteers from the<br>
                      > community.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.6 Compliance Report<br>
                      > <br>
                      > AFRINIC shall publish an annual meaningful
                      report describing review<br>
                      > activities, in accordance with all applicable
                      laws and regulations.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 13.7 Acknowledgements<br>
                      > <br>
                      > The authors thank Ms Wafa Dahmani Zaafouri
                      (become Afrinic GC Chair), Mr<br>
                      > Serge ILUNGA (become Afrinic Board member)
                       and Mr Alain P. Aina for<br>
                      > their  contributions  in the development of
                      this Policy proposal.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > The authors also thank the community for the
                      discussions and contributions.<br>
                      >  <br>
                      > 4.0 Revision History<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 18 May 2016<br>
                      >   Version 1.0<br>
                      > - First Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT01<br>
                      > - Posted on RPD list<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 05 Aug 2016<br>
                      >   Version 2.0<br>
                      > - Second Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT02<br>
                      > - Change on the policy’s name<br>
                      > - Addition of the Acknowledgement section<br>
                      > - Rephrasing of section 3.3.3<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 18 Nov 2016<br>
                      > Version 3.0<br>
                      > - Third Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT03<br>
                      > - Update of section 3.3.3 from discussions on
                      mailing list<br>
                      > - Update of section 3.7 (Acknowledgements) to
                      thank the community for<br>
                      > discussions and contributions<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 11 Apr 2017<br>
                      > Version 4.0<br>
                      > - Fourth Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT04<br>
                      > - Update and Rephrasing of section 3.4<br>
                      > - Update and Rephrasing of section 3.5<br>
                      > - Update and Rephrasing of section 3.6<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 21 Oct. 2107<br>
                      > Version 5.0<br>
                      > - Fifth Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT05<br>
                      > - Adding the paragraph C to 13.3.3. according
                      to the legal counsel<br>
                      > proposition<br>
                      > - Rephrasing the paragraph 13.5 to comply
                      with staff and legal assessment<br>
                      > - Rephrasing the paragraph 13.6 to comply
                      with staff assessment and<br>
                      > avoid any ambiguity<br>
                      > - Changing the co-authors list<br>
                      > - Updating the Acknowledgement session<br>
                      > - Amending 13.4 (B) to  reflect the Transfer
                      policies<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 06 Apr. 2018<br>
                      > Version 6.0<br>
                      > - Sixth Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT06<br>
                      > - Removing categorisation between membership
                      in random class section 13.3.1<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 06 Apr. 2019<br>
                      > Version 07<br>
                      > - Seventh Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT07<br>
                      > - Modifying section 13.4 Paragraph A) to
                      clarify the resources recovery<br>
                      > process: set conditions  under which a member
                      could be given longer term<br>
                      >  to effect the return of  affected resources.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > 29 may. 2019<br>
                      > Version 08<br>
                      > -  Eighth Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT08<br>
                      > -  Section 13.3.1 changes to  : "..The member
                      is chosen by AFRINIC at<br>
                      > random between the members who has not been
                      reviewed for any other<br>
                      > reasons in  the preceding 24 months."<br>
                      > -  Section  13.4  last paragraph changes to :
                      "AFRINIC shall initiate<br>
                      > ... on the portion of addresses found to be
                      noncompliant."<br>
                      > -   Section 13.5 changes to  “Reviewed
                      members who are not satisfied<br>
                      > have the right to appeal against the results
                      on the review within the<br>
                      > four weeks following communication of the
                      results by AFRINIC……..”<br>
                      > -  Typos and grammatical errors fixed.<br>
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