<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Dear all,</span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">The above policy I strongly support because unused resources cannot be left dormant without use. Moreover, other RIR have all implemented this policy and it will do us good as a community to have this policy approved before we all leave Uganda.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Thanks for your understanding.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Jehovahseun Ezekiel ADEKANMI</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 12:46 PM 94cm4n ., <<a href="mailto:ezekielj20@gmail.com">ezekielj20@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Dear all,</span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">The above policy I strongly support because unused resources cannot be left dormant without use. Moreover, other RIR have all implemented this policy and it will do us good as a community to have this policy approved before we all leave Uganda.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Thanks for your understanding.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 12:37 PM , <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer<br>
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I agree and support this policy.<br>
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Frank Habicht<br>
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On 18/06/2019 12:23, Emem William wrote:<br>
> Dear all,?<br>
> Jordie and Mark has giving all the points. There is no need for me to<br>
> repeat them.?<br>
> Afrinic is the only region left out cos we are sometimes slow.<br>
> I totally agree with this policy and I believe it should get approved<br>
> here in Uganda.<br>
> Thanks<br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 09:49 <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a><br>
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> ? ?1. Re: inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC needs<br>
> ? ? ? this policy now! (Pascal ANDRIANISA)<br>
> ? ?2. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer. (aleruchi chuku)<br>
> ? ?3. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer. (Kris Seeburn)<br>
> ? ?4. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer<br>
> ? ? ? (Hussein Olanrewaju AKANDE)<br>
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> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 10:48:06 +0300 (EAT)<br>
> From: Pascal ANDRIANISA <<a href="mailto:pascal@irenala.edu.mg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">pascal@irenala.edu.mg</a><br>
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> Subject: Re: [rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC<br>
> ? ? ? ? needs this policy now!<br>
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> Hi Jordi,<br>
> I read the policy proposal for IPV4 Inter-RIR Transfert.? ?<br>
> The article =><br>
> <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1#proposal" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1#proposal</a><br>
> ? I think this is not the benefit of AFRINIC as resources are<br>
> currently insufficient for AFRINIC.<br>
> Otherwise it is necessary to balance the transfers between RIR<br>
> because at least the number of resources is limited to sending to<br>
> other RIRs.<br>
> <br>
> I do not support this policy for this reason, The AFRINIC's<br>
> resources are not enough for AFRICA, why transfer them elsewhere ....<br>
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> De: "rpd" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
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> Envoy?: Samedi 15 Juin 2019 13:23:23<br>
> Objet: [rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC<br>
> needs this policy now!<br>
> <br>
> Hi all,<br>
> <br>
> I wonder if anyone has inputs on the policy proposals for IPv4<br>
> Inter-RIR transfers.<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-001-d1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-001-d1</a><br>
> <br>
> and<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1</a><br>
> <br>
> I will be presenting both of them together on Wednesday 19th. If<br>
> you're not in Kampala, make sure to participate remotely<br>
> (<a href="https://www.internetsummit.africa/en/participate-remotely" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.internetsummit.africa/en/participate-remotely</a>), so we<br>
> can resolve any doubts on the spot.<br>
> <br>
> This is a key issue for AFRINIC, which now is the *only* RIR not<br>
> allowing those transfers.<br>
> <br>
> AFRINIC is soon (probably around end of this year) entering in<br>
> exhaustion phase 2, so it will become more and more difficult to<br>
> obtain IPv4. If transfers from other regions aren't allowed, this<br>
> will be an added difficulty for the Internet growth in the region,<br>
> and increase the difficulties for the continued IPv6 deployment.<br>
> <br>
> The region needs this policy *now*, because the implementation<br>
> requires several months as there is a need to coordinate with the<br>
> systems of the other RIRs, in order to ensure a transparent<br>
> transfers process.<br>
> <br>
> So, what is your opinion?<br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> Jordi<br>
> @jordipalet<br>
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> Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:820859170.2990967.1560847292489@mail.yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">820859170.2990967.1560847292489@mail.yahoo.com</a><br>
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> If the IPV4 is not enough for the region, then there will be nothing<br>
> to transfere....would there?<br>
> But where it is available and as we all know gradually becoming<br>
> "old" in our region, then perhaps it is truly to our benefit to be<br>
> able to transfere this resource to other regions as well as recieve<br>
> from them.<br>
> Aleruchi<br>
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> That is a thought of sense. If we do that we equate and live another<br>
> day as we say. Yes old it will be and pushing to be at par with<br>
> others is the way through<br>
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> > On 18 Jun 2019, at 12:41, aleruchi chuku via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
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> > If the IPV4 is not enough for the region, then there will be<br>
> nothing to transfere....would there?<br>
> ><br>
> > But where it is available and as we all know gradually becoming<br>
> "old" in our region, then perhaps it is truly to our benefit to be<br>
> able to transfere this resource to other regions as well as recieve<br>
> from them.<br>
> ><br>
> > Aleruchi<br>
> ><br>
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> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:43:58 +0100<br>
> From: Hussein Olanrewaju AKANDE <<a href="mailto:elsufi@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">elsufi@unilorin.edu.ng</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:elsufi@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">elsufi@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>><br>
> To: Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>>><br>
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> Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer<br>
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> ? ? ? ?<br>
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> I agree with you perfectly.<br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 9:05 AM Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > I?ll second and if not support that resources be used than kept in the<br>
> > coffer. If the coffer generated some interest I would see no issue<br>
> but our<br>
> > existence is also trying to find a stability between all the RIRs and<br>
> > resources needs to be used for continuous existence and sustainability<br>
> ><br>
> > On 18 Jun 2019, at 11:53, Hussein Olanrewaju AKANDE <<br>
> > <a href="mailto:elsufi@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">elsufi@unilorin.edu.ng</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:elsufi@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">elsufi@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Dear All,<br>
> > Thank you Mark Elkins for those wonderful points, I do not<br>
> understand why<br>
> > we should continue to keep the resources when they can easily be<br>
> utilized.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 8:21 AM <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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> >><br>
> >>? ? 1. Re: Nomcom feedback to PDWG (Owen DeLong)<br>
> >>? ? 2. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer. (Pascal<br>
> ANDRIANISA)<br>
> >>? ? 3. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer. (Mark Elkins)<br>
> >><br>
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> >><br>
> >> Message: 1<br>
> >> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:19:55 +0300<br>
> >> From: Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>>><br>
> >> To: Ernest Byaruhanga <<a href="mailto:ernest@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ernest@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ernest@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ernest@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
> >> Cc: 2019 NomCom <<a href="mailto:nomcom2019@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">nomcom2019@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nomcom2019@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">nomcom2019@afrinic.net</a>>>, <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> >> Subject: Re: [rpd] Nomcom feedback to PDWG<br>
> >> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:F7C58339-1AD0-4729-95E3-3F1110B5C11B@delong.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">F7C58339-1AD0-4729-95E3-3F1110B5C11B@delong.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:F7C58339-1AD0-4729-95E3-3F1110B5C11B@delong.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">F7C58339-1AD0-4729-95E3-3F1110B5C11B@delong.com</a>>><br>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;? ? ? ?charset=utf-8<br>
> >><br>
> >> Ernest, as I understand the PDP and the bylaws, the only<br>
> appropriate way<br>
> >> to implement the output of that committee would be for the<br>
> committee to<br>
> >> write up one or more policy proposals to codify then into the PDP<br>
> and have<br>
> >> the community come to consensus on them.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Failing that, they are an ex party change to the PDP in violation<br>
> of the<br>
> >> PDP and the bylaws. While I agree with most of the<br>
> recommendations on that<br>
> >> page, we must above all preserve the integrity of the process and<br>
> therefore<br>
> >> follow the rules when we seek to amend the process.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Owen<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> > On Jun 17, 2019, at 17:08, Ernest Byaruhanga<br>
> <<a href="mailto:ernest@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ernest@afrinic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ernest@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ernest@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Owen,<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > An update to the PDWG co-chair election process was produced by an<br>
> >> elections process review committee instituted by the CEO and<br>
> shared with<br>
> >> the community for comments and feedback, sometime in 2012:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2012/002145.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2012/002145.html</a><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Unfortunately we are not able to download or locate the<br>
> original copy,<br>
> >> but the adopted document used in 2013 included the requirement<br>
> that those<br>
> >> voting should be residing within the AFRINIC region.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > The elections committee has however never enforced this requirement<br>
> >> despite its presence in the elections guideline, which was<br>
> presumably an<br>
> >> output of that review committee based on comments and feedback<br>
> consequent<br>
> >> to the call for comments.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > The elections committee will therefore not be enforcing this<br>
> >> requirement in the coming election based on precedent.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > On the issue of remote participants voting, we have not<br>
> provided for<br>
> >> this before, and unfortunately not at the upcoming election.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > We welcome and will include the community?s feedback towards<br>
> improving<br>
> >> the current election processes.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Ernest.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> >> On 16 Jun 2019, at 09:08, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I have some questions about the conduct of this election.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> First, I would think that the controlling document would be<br>
> the CPM<br>
> >> and not some random webpage of unknown origin.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Thus, I suggest that the rules (such as they are) are outlined<br>
> in CPM<br>
> >> section 3 and that where the following page:<br>
> >> >>? ? <a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</a><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Conflicts or provides additional restrictions, the CPM should be<br>
> >> controlling and additional restrictions specified there are not<br>
> valid.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I have not yet seen anyone answer Dewole?s earlier question about<br>
> >> where this procedure came from and how it was deployed without<br>
> community<br>
> >> involvement or consensus.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Amending the election procedure (or even making it more specific)<br>
> >> should be done through modification of the PDP via the PDP.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> It certainly should not be done ad hoc by AfriNIC staff, the<br>
> board, or<br>
> >> whoever else produced that page.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> For example, it has never previously been the practice that<br>
> one must<br>
> >> reside in a country within AfriNIC region in order to vote for PDWG<br>
> >> co-chair, nor should it be. AfriNIC policies affect those outside<br>
> of the<br>
> >> region as well as those within the region and there are a significant<br>
> >> number of people active in the PDWG that do not live within the<br>
> region,<br>
> >> myself included.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> No RIR that I know of restricts voting for PDWG co-chairs (or<br>
> >> equivalent) to those residing in the region.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Then there is the question of remote participants voting.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> The CPM section 3.3 is silent on this matter for a normal<br>
> election, so<br>
> >> that leaves an open question.<br>
> >> >> However,<br>
> <a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</a><br>
> >> states that you must be physically present in the room and must<br>
> have a<br>
> >> badge showing that you have registered (assuming that they sort<br>
> out the<br>
> >> irregularities with badge printing).<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Can we please get some clarification on the procedure for this<br>
> >> election at least 24 hours before the voting starts?<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Thanks,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Owen<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:51 AM, Dewole Ajao <<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dewole@forum.org.ng</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dewole@forum.org.ng</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >> >>><br>
> >> >>> I was going to reply to say there are no standing rules on<br>
> conduct of<br>
> >> PDWG elections but I see from the CPM that the PDP election<br>
> process somehow<br>
> >> seems to have evolved. Can someone in the know please clarify how<br>
> we came<br>
> >> about the detailed election notes outlined at<br>
> >> <a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election</a> ?<br>
> This is<br>
> >> bearing in mind that changes to the PDP can only be done via the PDP.<br>
> >> >>><br>
> >> >>> My suggestion about giving the working group the option of<br>
> retaining<br>
> >> the current co-chair was an attempt to avoid 2 co-chairs leaving<br>
> after the<br>
> >> same meeting. Note that my suggested process allows the working group<br>
> >> members present (who are the deciders of who becomes co-chair)<br>
> the option<br>
> >> of rejecting the default seat retention.<br>
> >> >>><br>
> >> >>> In any case, all of this is speculation as a result of the NomCom<br>
> >> asking us what we think. At this point, it is over to Elections<br>
> Committee<br>
> >> to tell us how they intend to handle this.<br>
> >> >>><br>
> >> >>> Regards,<br>
> >> >>><br>
> >> >>> Dewole.<br>
> >> >>><br>
> >> >>><br>
> >> >>><br>
> >> >>><br>
> >> >>>> On 6/8/2019 11:31 PM, Daniel Yakmut wrote:<br>
> >> >>>> I want to believe that we have standing rules on who is<br>
> qualify to<br>
> >> be voted and how our elections should be conducted. I hope we not<br>
> trying to<br>
> >> define new rules here.<br>
> >> >>>><br>
> >> >>>> We should stick to the rules and all candidates regardless<br>
> should be<br>
> >> given a level playing field. i don't subscribe to allowing anyone<br>
> giving<br>
> >> any special consideration.<br>
> >> >>>><br>
> >> >>>> In particular I believe that all the candidates that are<br>
> >> volunteering, could possibly some fresh air to the conduct of the<br>
> PWDG. So<br>
> >> let us not disadvantage anyone.<br>
> >> >>>><br>
> >> >>>> So far NomCom have shown commitment to? a fair process and<br>
> >> maintaining that going forward will be important.<br>
> >> >>>><br>
> >> >>>> Simply,<br>
> >> >>>> Danile<br>
> >> >>>><br>
> >> >>>><br>
> >> >>>><br>
> >> >>>>> On Jun 8, 2019, at 11:06 PM, Dewole Ajao<br>
> <<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dewole@forum.org.ng</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dewole@forum.org.ng</a>>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
> >> >>>>><br>
> >> >>>>> Sorry, the election slot is missing from the draft agenda I<br>
> shared<br>
> >> earlier. It may be inefficient to have election at the start of<br>
> the policy<br>
> >> day so it is planned to hold towards the end of the day. Holding the<br>
> >> election before the open mic will allow working group members<br>
> also provide<br>
> >> feedback on the process during the open mic.<br>
> >> >>>>><br>
> >> >>>>> The contents of<br>
> >> <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019</a> remain<br>
> >> unchanged from the pre-protest announcement. Perhaps we should<br>
> wait for<br>
> >> NomCom to tell the working group who the co-chair candidates are<br>
> (before we<br>
> >> start the questioning)? For future PDWG elections, the questions<br>
> could be<br>
> >> included as part of the information to provide during the nominations<br>
> >> stage. Or maybe some have already been asked by NomCom and the<br>
> candidates<br>
> >> only need to decide what they wish to share with us.<br>
> >> >>>>><br>
> >> >>>>> One would imagine that the Elections Committee already has<br>
> a plan<br>
> >> for incorporating remote participants who will naturally expect to<br>
> >> participate in the co-chair selection as allowed by the PDP.<br>
> >> >>>>><br>
> >> >>>>> Regards,<br>
> >> >>>>> Dewole.<br>
> >> >>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>> On 6/8/2019 10:07 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:<br>
> >> >>>>>> Hi Dewole, all,<br>
> >> >>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>> I will agree with your suggestion, it is very important to<br>
> keep<br>
> >> continuity of the existing co-chairs.<br>
> >> >>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>> Also, I think to avoid wasting precious time, it may be<br>
> good to<br>
> >> consider running the election at the end of the open mic, so even<br>
> if the<br>
> >> election process is delayed for whatever, reason, the PDP<br>
> discussion time<br>
> >> is respected.<br>
> >> >>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>> One of the elected co-chairs will be running for just one<br>
> year, or<br>
> >> how it will be handled in order to get the staggered terms?<br>
> >> >>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>> Finally, I've a question for the NomCom and the PDP-chair<br>
> >> candidates. And I think this is very important for a successful<br>
> knowledge<br>
> >> by the community to whom they are electing. This is not about<br>
> electing<br>
> >> "your best friend for driving a party", but the people that<br>
> better knows<br>
> >> the PDP and has already been following it.<br>
> >> >>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>> So, I will like to know, for each of the candidates, since<br>
> when<br>
> >> they have been in the RPD mailing list, how they have contributed<br>
> in the<br>
> >> discussions in the list and meetings, or even with policy<br>
> proposals. How<br>
> >> the candidates are going to support the PDP, increase community<br>
> >> participation, etc. Also, we need to understand if they have actively<br>
> >> supported or non-supported any of the actual policy proposals, so<br>
> we can<br>
> >> avoid electing two chairs that may have a bias on the same policy<br>
> proposal.<br>
> >> >>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>> Reading the actual CVs at<br>
> >> <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019</a>, I<br>
> don't<br>
> >> think all the candidates have that information right now.<br>
> >> >>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>> So, can the NomCom prepare a document answering (with verified<br>
> >> responses to some extent) those questions for each of the<br>
> candidate and<br>
> >> publish it together with the CVs ?<br>
> >> >>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>> Regards,<br>
> >> >>>>>> Jordi<br>
> >> >>>>>> ?El 8/6/19 21:10, "Dewole Ajao" <<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dewole@forum.org.ng</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dewole@forum.org.ng</a>>> escribi?:<br>
> >> >>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? A simple solution to clear any confusion would be for the<br>
> >> Nomination<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? Committee to send out a fresh announcement listing the<br>
> final<br>
> >> slate of<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? candidates after their considerations have been done.<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? ? ? ?Elections Committee should at this point also<br>
> state how<br>
> >> the seats would<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? be filled so that everyone is clear about that. There<br>
> have been<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? suggestions on how to fill the positions; better to<br>
> sort them<br>
> >> out now<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? rather than waste scarce time on the policy day.<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? ? ? ?My suggestion (and I may be biased) is this:<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? Since a current co-chair (Sami) is running, show of<br>
> hands to<br>
> >> see if the<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? working group is in support of Sami retaining his seat. If<br>
> >> majority in<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? support of Sami continuing, then remainder of the<br>
> election is<br>
> >> for one<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? seat going to whichever of the remaining candidates has the<br>
> >> maximum votes.<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? ? ? ?If the outcome of the first vote is not in favour of<br>
> >> current co-chair<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? taking a seat by default, then second round of voting<br>
> can be<br>
> >> for 2 seats<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? possibly using the option of higher votes getting the<br>
> longer<br>
> >> term.<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? ? ? ?Again, this is just my point of view.<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? ? ? ?Regards,<br>
> >> >>>>>>? ? ? ? ?Dewole.<br>
> >> >>>>>>>? ? ? ? ?On 6/8/2019 5:25 PM, Ish Sookun wrote:<br>
> >> >>>>>>> Hi Serge,<br>
> >> >>>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>>>> On 6/8/19 2:21 PM, Iyedi Goma wrote:<br>
> >> >>>>>>>> The Nomination Committee reviewed the nomination of the<br>
> persons<br>
> >> who<br>
> >> >>>>>>>> submitted their documentation.? The Nomination Committee<br>
> Chair<br>
> >> contacted<br>
> >> >>>>>>>> each nominee to notify him/her of the decision.<br>
> >> >>>>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>>> Is this particular update referring to all the nominees,<br>
> nominees<br>
> >> that<br>
> >> >>>>>>> complained or only nominees that remained after the<br>
> NomCom filter.<br>
> >> >>>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>>> The text "persons who submitted their documentation"<br>
> requires more<br>
> >> >>>>>>> clarity IMHO.<br>
> >> >>>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>>> Regards,<br>
> >> >>>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>>> Ish Sookun<br>
> >> >>>>>>><br>
> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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> >> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:05:12 +0300 (EAT)<br>
> >> From: Pascal ANDRIANISA <<a href="mailto:pascal@irenala.edu.mg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">pascal@irenala.edu.mg</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pascal@irenala.edu.mg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">pascal@irenala.edu.mg</a>>><br>
> >> To: ishola kabir <<a href="mailto:isholakabir@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">isholakabir@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:isholakabir@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">isholakabir@gmail.com</a>>><br>
> >> Cc: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> >> Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.<br>
> >> Message-ID:<br>
> >>? ? ? ?<br>
> ?<1103848571.189374.1560837912327.JavaMail.zimbra@irenala.edumg<br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:1103848571.189374.1560837912327.JavaMail.zimbra@irenala.edu.mg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">1103848571.189374.1560837912327.JavaMail.zimbra@irenala.edu.mg</a>>><br>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
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> >> Dear Ishola Kabir,<br>
> >> I think the transfer of inter-RIR does not benefit AFRINIC for<br>
> the simple<br>
> >> reason that AFRINIC's resources are not enough for its region.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Regard,<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA<br>
> >> Webmaster i RENALA<br>
> >> R esearch and E ducation N etwork for A cademic and L earning A<br>
> ctivities<br>
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> >> Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche<br>
> >> Scientifique - Fiadanana<br>
> >> GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 | +261 (0) 34 30 680 29<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> De: "ishola kabir" <<a href="mailto:isholakabir@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">isholakabir@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:isholakabir@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">isholakabir@gmail.com</a>>><br>
> >> ?: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> >> Envoy?: Lundi 17 Juin 2019 17:17:58<br>
> >> Objet: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> I stand to support the policy on proposal of IPV4 inter-RIR legacy<br>
> >> resources transfer.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> We're running out of IPV4 resources and the Regional Internet<br>
> Registries<br>
> >> (RIRs) have started to run out of of IPV4 resources as well. IPv4<br>
> inter-RIR<br>
> >> legacy resources from and to other regions will offer a realistic<br>
> solution<br>
> >> to the problem of reclaiming the significant amount of unused IPV4<br>
> >> resources and allocating them to their most efficient users. The<br>
> transfer<br>
> >> will be subject to the need to main route aggregation and allow<br>
> resources<br>
> >> not in used in one region to be transferred to a region where it<br>
> is needed.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Preventing IPv4 Inter-RIR Legacy Resource Transfers would only<br>
> push the<br>
> >> demand and supply pressures surrounding the scarcity of resources<br>
> into<br>
> >> different channel such as the holder of this unused resources will do<br>
> >> everything within their power for continued possession of this<br>
> resources<br>
> >> for purpose of black market, increase their value in an acquisition.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Inter-RIR Legacy would definitely allows organization willing to<br>
> release<br>
> >> address resources to benefit monetarily by selling them to<br>
> another region<br>
> >> who wants them subject to the record keeping requirements and<br>
> regulation of<br>
> >> inter regional legacy instead of being hijacked or use without<br>
> >> authorization.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> It is very obvious that the risk associated with this will be<br>
> very small<br>
> >> when compare to the potential benefit and this will also reinforce<br>
> >> effectiveness of the inter Regional Internet Address Registries<br>
> in global<br>
> >> internet governance.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
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> >> Message: 3<br>
> >> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:19:24 +0200<br>
> >> From: Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mje@posix.co.za</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mje@posix.co.za</a>>><br>
> >> To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> >> Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.<br>
> >> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:e927753c-91b9-364f-ba24-22613d8fc362@posix.co.za" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">e927753c-91b9-364f-ba24-22613d8fc362@posix.co.za</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:e927753c-91b9-364f-ba24-22613d8fc362@posix.co.za" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">e927753c-91b9-364f-ba24-22613d8fc362@posix.co.za</a>>><br>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br>
> >><br>
> >> IPv4 resources were never enough for the world (Four-ish billion IP<br>
> >> addresses). That's why IPv6 was created. The other four RIR's have<br>
> >> basically run out of IPv4 - which to an extent has forced them to<br>
> adopt<br>
> >> IPv6. In a perverse way - its actually bad for Africa to NOT have run<br>
> >> out as we lazily continue to deploy IPv4 - last years technology as<br>
> >> such.. Better to move straight to IPv6 before we are too weighed<br>
> down by<br>
> >> the legacy restrictiveness of IPv4 addresses.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Also - the Transfer Policy would generally need to be<br>
> bidirectional so<br>
> >> that other RIR regions will allow the transfer of IPv4 resources into<br>
> >> Africa - that is, play on an equal footing - if indeed some of the<br>
> >> larger African ISP's need to acquire more IPv4 addresses.<br>
> >><br>
> >> If an African LIR/ISP does sell IPv4 resources to another region then<br>
> >> the capitol will probably be used to expand that LIR's business -<br>
> >> presumably in an IPv6 direction - which would be beneficial to that<br>
> >> LIR's customers and to an extent, the rest of our community.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Just think, for the first time ever, we get to dump old<br>
> technology onto<br>
> >> "developed" countries rather than the other way around.<br>
> >><br>
> >> On 2019/06/18 08:05, Pascal ANDRIANISA wrote:<br>
> >> > Dear Ishola Kabir, I think the transfer of inter-RIR does not<br>
> benefit<br>
> >> > AFRINIC for the simple reason that AFRINIC's resources are not<br>
> enough<br>
> >> > for its region. Regard,<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > *Pascal* Heriliva ANDRIANISA<br>
> >> > Webmaster i RENALA<br>
> >> > *R*esearch and *E*ducation *N*etwork for *A*cademic and *L*earning<br>
> >> > *A*ctivities - <a href="http://www.irenala.edu.mg/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.irenala.edu.mg/</a><br>
> >> > Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la<br>
> Recherche<br>
> >> > Scientifique - Fiadanana_<br>
> >> > GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29?? |??? +261 (0) 34 30 680 29_<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> >> > *De: *"ishola kabir" <<a href="mailto:isholakabir@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">isholakabir@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:isholakabir@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">isholakabir@gmail.com</a>>><br>
> >> > *?: *<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> >> > *Envoy?: *Lundi 17 Juin 2019 17:17:58<br>
> >> > *Objet: *Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I stand to support the policy on proposal of IPV4 inter-RIR legacy<br>
> >> > resources transfer.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > We're running out of IPV4 resources and the Regional Internet<br>
> >> > Registries (RIRs) have started to run out of of IPV4 resources as<br>
> >> > well. IPv4 inter-RIR legacy resources from and to other regions<br>
> will<br>
> >> > offer a realistic solution to the problem of reclaiming the<br>
> >> > significant amount of unused IPV4 resources and allocating them to<br>
> >> > their most efficient users. The transfer will be subject to the<br>
> need<br>
> >> > to main route aggregation and allow resources not in used in one<br>
> >> > region to be transferred to a region where it is needed.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Preventing IPv4 Inter-RIR Legacy Resource Transfers would only push<br>
> >> > the demand ?and supply pressures surrounding the scarcity of<br>
> resources<br>
> >> > into different channel such as the holder of this unused resources<br>
> >> > will do everything within their power for continued possession<br>
> of this<br>
> >> > resources for purpose of black market, increase their value in an<br>
> >> > acquisition.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Inter-RIR Legacy would definitely allows organization willing to<br>
> >> > release address resources to benefit monetarily by selling them to<br>
> >> > another region who wants them subject to the record keeping<br>
> >> > requirements and regulation of inter regional legacy instead of<br>
> being<br>
> >> > hijacked or use without authorization.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > It is very obvious that the risk associated with this will be very<br>
> >> > small when compare to the potential benefit and this will also<br>
> >> > reinforce effectiveness of the inter Regional Internet Address<br>
> >> > Registries in global internet governance.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
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