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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes, for sure!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Saludos,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 18/6/19 15:30, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>My words are assuming that you want to keep connected to the “global Internet”, which has IPv4-only services, dual-stack services, and sooner or later, there will be some “IPv6-only” services (Facebook is a good example, today their data centers are IPv6-only, but at the moment they have “front-ends” to support IPv4-only customers).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>El 18/6/19 15:13, "Owen DeLong" <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>On Jun 18, 2019, at 5:05 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>One more *<b>very relevant</b>* detail to add.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>The *<b>only</b>* way to deploy IPv6 now is IPv6-only with IPv4-as-a-Service.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>This isn’t entirely true… This is, however, the most efficient way to provide IPv4 services to your customers if you are building an IPv6 network.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>For that you need to have new pools of IPv4 addresses (the size of them depend on many factors, such as the design of your network, how big is it, etc.).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>Only if you need connectivity to the IPv4 legacy internet.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Also government and enterprise networks may need to have small IPv4 pools to be able to offer “IPv6-only”.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>These are the same as any other end-users.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>All this is not easy to explain in an email, but please, trust me. I’ve been working on that since 1999. I hope you valuate my experience.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>If you don’t have those IPv4 pools, sufficient for every actual ISP, new ISP, actual company, new company, you will *<b>not</b>* be able to:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:106.8pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Connect correctly to a global Internet</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:106.8pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Be able to deploy IPv6</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>1. is not true… You can connect just fine to the global IPv6 internet. You only need IPv4 addresses if you intend to connect to the legacy IPv4 internet.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>2. There is no dependency on IPv4 pools in order to deploy IPv6. They are only needed if you need to talk to legacy IPv4 networks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Furthermore, you will be forced to invest in Carrier Grade NAT boxes (CGN), in a scale that nobody did until now in the rest of the world, in a scale that breaks everthing.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>How is it that you think CGN boxes can work without IPv4 addresses? You need the same IPv4 here as with the other alternatives with IPv4 as a service on IPv6.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>CGN isn’t an alternative that uses fewer IPv4 addresses.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Owen</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br>**********************************************<br>IPv4 is over<br>Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>http://www.theipv6company.com<br>The IPv6 Company<br><br>This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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