<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 11:16 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES"><div class="gmail-m_4207826791508549348WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">I said “new” policy. This was written long time ago, not doing random audits. The overall goal is to review when there is a reason to believe that something is wrong.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes you said new policy hence my question to you Jordi, considering the fact you are an active policy proposer of various new policy which stem from issues you seem to always identify and see the need to fix.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES"><div class="gmail-m_4207826791508549348WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">All the RIRs can actually do that, even if there is not a policy. Membership agreement, service agreement, and sometimes other policies, already detail it. </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Looks like only ARIN is willing too....maybe other RIR can pick some lessons.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES"><div class="gmail-m_4207826791508549348WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">The point is how much power and cost this policy brings.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There has been ongoing discussions among the working group to continue improving the said policy.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES"><div class="gmail-m_4207826791508549348WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><br>Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Jordi<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 16/5/19 9:54, "Noah" <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> escribió:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 10:14 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es" target="_blank">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">And for that, a new policy was not needed.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Ok, lets just "<b>assume</b>" that you don't need policy to address fraud. Then what is the purpose of section 12 of the ARIN (Number Resource Policy Manual) [1] ? <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Ooooh and If a member agreement is sufficient, then why is fraud addressed in ARIN number resource policy?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">And lastly, If I may ask, how would you compare the AfriNIC RSA against the ARIN RSA?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Noah<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">[1] <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#12-resource-review" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#12-resource-review</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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