<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br>I can see good and
very interesting discussions going on around the review proposal about each
parties role and responsibilities in managing Internet Number Resources
and using them to build a healthy and safe Internet. This is a great
discussion we are having, as it goes to educates many and remind us our roles.<br><br>Improving accountability and responsively enforcing our principles seem rather important. Doing nothing will not help either.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>My 2cents......</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div>Noah</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 5:19 AM Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Attn: Marcus<div><br></div><div>Please note the considerations by ARIN regarding this recent fraudster and the lengths to which ARIN is going to avoid unnecessary harm to downstream customers to the extent possible.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="gmail-m_6431703719536877924gmail-m_752073567930930642Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Re: [arin-ppml] Micfo</b><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">May 14, 2019 at 15:00:44 PDT<br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">"Ronald F. Guilmette" <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br></span></div><br><div><div>Ronald - <br><br>ARIN will take action to correct issuance of resources against requests determined to be fraudulent - but that does not preclude valid requests from the same entities, with properly issued resources being used to serve customers (many of which are likely to have done nothing wrong.)<br><br>I would recommend careful consideration of any policy that starts assigning labels to entities and requires unilateral revocation based on those same labels – both because of the potential for harm to innocent parties, and the potential for abuse (ie speculative fraud reports against a competitors becomes a potential weapon.)<br><br>Thanks!<br>/John<br><br>John Curran<br>President and CEO<br>American Registry for Internet Numbers<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">On May 14, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br>...<br>Don't get me wrong. I am breaking out the champagne over ARIN's victory<br>here, but it is somewhat of a pyrrhic one if this shchmuck is still going<br>to be allowed to operate on the Internet, from ANRI-issued space, alongside<br>respectable people and companies.<br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>ARIN-PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" target="_blank">https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br>Please contact <a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues.<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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