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    <p>I think there should be a policy that states that any Policy that
      has not gone to last call (successfully unchallenged) and is older
      than two years must be withdrawn after the next meeting from the
      Policy Development Process and can only be brought back after two
      years.</p>
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    <p>This particular policy would be a great candidate!<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019/05/12 23:42, Owen DeLong wrote:<br>
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          <div class="">On May 12, 2019, at 12:30 , Benjamin Ledoh <<a
              href="mailto:benjamin.ledoh@gmail.com" class=""
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              <div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Community,
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                <div class="">Marcus asked simple questions to Melvin. I
                  was expecting Melvin to respond but as usual, Owen
                  jumped with his blablabla. We all know that Owen has
                  no company in the Africa Region; he has no interest in
                  this policy and every time he is defend or support
                  policy that could destroy Afrinic. It is not a secret
                  that he hates Afrinic and now is on mission (for a pay
                  master -- I stand to be corrected). The less I say,
                  the better for this community.</div>
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        This is very very interesting…</div>
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      <div>It’s true that I’m no longer associated with a company that
        has any operations in the AfriNIC region.</div>
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      <div>I agree with you that the less you say, the better for this
        community.</div>
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      <div>That’s pretty much where the truth of your statements ends.</div>
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      <div>I have tremendous interest in this policy for the good of the
        region and the good of the internet, both of which stand to be
        substantially harmed by the policy for the multiple reasons I
        have previously outlined.</div>
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      <div>I have never defended or supported policy which I believed
        could destroy AfriNIC. Indeed, I am opposing this policy because
        I believe it would be harmful to AfriNIC.</div>
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      <div>I’m actually quite fond of AfriNIC and many of the people who
        work there. I count much of the AfriNIC staff and many members
        of the community as friends. I have no idea where you have come
        up with this idea that I hate AfriNIC. I assure you that if I
        hated AfriNIC, the easiest thing for me to do would be to turn a
        blind eye to this policy and walk away allowing it to do the
        damage it will surely do if it is adopted. Indeed, I think if
        you review my history, you will find I do not spend anywhere
        near this level of effort to try and improve things that I hate.</div>
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      <div>I also am not sure what you mean by “on a mission for a pay
        master”. Nobody is paying me to do this. It is true that I have
        received partial expense sponsorship to attend some AfriNIC
        meetings from various sources. It is true that I have done other
        consulting work for a variety of organizations that are AfriNIC
        members. It is also true that no organization or employer has
        ever been able to dictate the opinions I express in any public
        policy forum. I’m quite certain that if you check with any of my
        former employers, you’ll be easily able to confirm this fact.</div>
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                <div class="">The pathetic aspect in this is the
                  submission of Daniel. Brother Dan, in Yoruba, there is
                  a say: "You don't team up with opponents to vandalize
                  your family's property". To a wise, a word is enough.</div>
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        Are you accusing me of vandalism, sir? If so, I would like to
        see you back up that claim with some evidence or facts.
        Otherwise, it is an inappropriate ad hominem attack which is not
        permitted by the list AUP. If not, please explain yourself more
        clearly or make an appropriate apology.</div>
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                <div class="">By the way, I am looking for sponsorship
                  to travel to Kampala to attend AIS. Can you be of
                  help? Can you direct me to any foundation? I hope you
                  will take it cool. (LOL)</div>
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        I am not sure if the Larus foundation is still taking
        applications for Kampala or not. You could try there. I believe
        AfriNIC also has a fellowship program, but I’m not sure when
        their application period closes, either. I don’t know if there
        are other foundations out there offering grants.</div>
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      <div>Owen</div>
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                <div class="">Cheers</div>
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                <div class="">Benjiloh</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 12, 2019
                  at 6:03 PM Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a
                    href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class=""
                    moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
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                    <div class="">Owen, </div>
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                    <div dir="auto" class="">Indeed you gave the point
                      blank solution to what I personally have been
                      advocating.</div>
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                    <div dir="auto" class="">Cheers</div>
                    <div dir="auto" class="">Daniel<br class="">
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, May 12, 2019,
                          6:14 PM Owen DeLong <<a
                            href="mailto:owen@delong.com"
                            target="_blank" class=""
                            moz-do-not-send="true">owen@delong.com</a>>
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                                <div class="">On May 12, 2019, at 08:37
                                  , Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a
                                    href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
                                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:</div>
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                                      class="">Hi Melvin</p>
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                                      class=""><b class=""><i class="">I
                                          can see you suddenly<span
                                            class=""> <span
class="gmail-m_-5536846077062982558m_-7235796690132523644Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>have
                                          interests for the review
                                          policy proposal. Please review<span
                                            class=""> <span
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                                            class=""> <span
class="gmail-m_-5536846077062982558m_-7235796690132523644Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>and
                                          PPMs<span class=""> <span
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                                          as it is not<span class=""> <span
class="gmail-m_-5536846077062982558m_-7235796690132523644Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>productive
                                          to replay old discussions.</i></b></p>
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                                      class=""><b class=""><i class="">Please
                                          could you provide answers to
                                          the following questions<span
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                                      class="">> This policy has a
                                      lot of problems.</p>
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                                      class=""><i class=""><b class="">It
                                          is not constructive in a
                                          working group to just say
                                          policy has a lot of problems
                                          without listing the problems
                                          you see. Please list all the
                                          problems and propose texts to
                                          address them?</b></i></p>
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                              It is not legitimate to insist that those
                              who feel your proposal is flawed must
                              provide text to address those problems.
                              However, let me propose text which would
                              solve all of the problems with this policy
                              so that it cannot be said that I did not
                              do so…</div>
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                            <div class="">Please replace the entire
                              proposal with the what is between the
                              BEGIN and END tags below. That will solve
                              all of the problems:</div>
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                            </div>
                            <div class="">—— BEGIN ——</div>
                            <div class="">—— END ——</div>
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                            <div class="">I think you must agree that
                              this text is very succinct and does not
                              create any new policy problems like the
                              current proposal.</div>
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                            <div class="">While it may not solve all of
                              the problems you intend with your current
                              problem statement, I believe it does, in
                              fact, solve all of the material defects of
                              this proposal and offers a vastly superior
                              policy alternative. (In other words:
                              current policy is a vastly superior policy
                              alternative to the current proposal).</div>
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                                      The other is the potential of
                                      end-users being disconnected due
                                      to the review. I think we have to
                                      bear in mind that, end-users have
                                      no clue about the review.</span></p>
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                                    class=""><b class=""><i class="">Please
                                        show which part of policy
                                        proposal requires disconnecting
                                        end users?<span class=""> <span
class="gmail-m_-5536846077062982558m_-7235796690132523644Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>The
                                        numbers are requested and
                                        allocated to serve end-users and
                                        I don't see how review will lead
                                        to disconnecting these users.</i></b></p>
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                              Marcus, are you truly so divorced from
                              reality that you do not understand that if
                              you successfully and effectively revoke
                              the resources of an ISP that by
                              definition, you have disconnected the
                              customers of said ISP that were using
                              those resources?</div>
                            <div class=""><br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">If not, then I can only assume
                              that you believe that any such revocation
                              will be without actual effect on the
                              internet. If you truly believe that, then
                              you believe that it is OK to render the
                              AfriNIC registration process meaningless
                              compared to operational practice and you
                              wish to create a separation between the
                              two. I realize that currently the two are
                              joined only through the voluntary
                              cooperation of ISPs, but I think it is
                              irresponsible at best to attempt to end
                              that cooperation.</div>
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                            <div class="">Owen</div>
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                                      class="">From:</b><span
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                                    Cheng <<a
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                                    <b class="">Sent:</b><span
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                                    May 11, 2019 9:15 AM<br class="">
                                    <b class="">To:</b><span
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                                    <b class="">Subject:</b><span
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                                    RPD : Prolicy proposal "Internet
                                    Number Resources review by AFRINIC"
                                    informations update</font>
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                                      <div dir="auto" class="">Hi</div>
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                                      <div dir="auto" class="">The
                                        debate over this policy has been
                                        for ages. I really think that if
                                        an issue has been discussed over
                                        and over again, there must be
                                        something fundamentally wrong
                                        about it. It’s quite obvious
                                        that this proposal draws way
                                        more controversy than the others
                                        - its own existence in a way
                                        seems to be a source of extreme
                                        disputes among the community, as
                                        we have seen in Tunisia. I was
                                        in fact there myself. </div>
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                                      <div dir="auto" class="">This
                                        policy has a lot of problems.
                                        Intrinsically, as a policy
                                        itself, it is not well defined.
                                        A lot of terms remain unclear.
                                        For example, as Owen has also
                                        pointed out earlier, the term
                                        “annual meaningful report” is an
                                        ambiguous term. What is a
                                        “meaningful” report? To whom?
                                        What are the factors? How is
                                        “meaningful” defined? 100 people
                                        can have 100 definitions of
                                        “meaningful”. If the report is
                                        deemed as something crucial to
                                        this proposal, then the author
                                        shall better define and address
                                        it. Honestly speaking, although
                                        this proposal has been
                                        “re-proposed” over and over, I
                                        do not see any improvements in
                                        it. More precisely, I barely see
                                        any changes made in the new
                                        proposal when comparing to the
                                        previous one. I would expect the
                                        authors to make some adjustments
                                        when so many issues have not
                                        been addressed in previous
                                        meetings before they posted them
                                        again, even just as gesture of
                                        their sincerity. You can’t just
                                        post something that’s almost
                                        identical by pretending your
                                        audience were blind. </div>
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                                      <div dir="auto" class="">On the
                                        other hand, this policy is not
                                        realistic at all. Afrinic does
                                        not have the financial power to
                                        conduct such a big quantity of
                                        reviews within its regions. It’s
                                        quiet easy to imagine that
                                        because of this lack of
                                        financial backup, reviews are
                                        done unfairly and unjustly. For
                                        example, some users are screened
                                        while the others are not because
                                        Afrinic runs out of money during
                                        the process of review. This may,
                                        at the worst, can lead to
                                        Afrinic’s bankruptcy, which I am
                                        sure none of us would wish that
                                        to happen. </div>
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                                      <div dir="auto" class="">The other
                                        is the potential of end-users
                                        being disconnected due to the
                                        review. I think we have to bear
                                        in mind that, end-users have no
                                        clue about the review. However,
                                        according to this proposal, if
                                        an ISP is found to have violated
                                        the rule (ie, inefficient
                                        utilisation of resources), their
                                        IPs will be taken back by
                                        Afrinic and re-allocate to
                                        others. End-user will lost
                                        connectivity to the Internet
                                        during this process even they
                                        have no idea what is going on.
                                        This is unfair to them. After
                                        all, connectivity to the
                                        Internet shall come as the
                                        priority over any other things.
                                        What this policy will bring is
                                        quiet the opposite. </div>
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                                      <div dir="auto" class="">Having
                                        said so much, I think my stand
                                        is quite clear. This proposal is
                                        not well drafted and the authors
                                        haven’t well considered its
                                        potential problems. It’s
                                        impractical when considering
                                        Afrinic’s current situation. </div>
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                                      <div dir="auto" class="">Let’s not
                                        forget about this. if something
                                        has been doubted by people over
                                        and over again, there must be
                                        something wrong about it. </div>
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                                      <div dir="auto" class="">Cheers </div>
                                      <div dir="auto" class="">Melvin  </div>
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